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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Pseudo » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:12 pm

TimmiesChin wrote:Frankly, in my opinion the Crows model is a "franchise" solution, effectively turning the SANFL comp. (for them) into a glorified training program. I'm not sure that any AFL club in the country has a model as poor and "soul-less" as the crows model. I've always felt the Port (Power/MAgpies) have had an eartheir feeling to them than the crows, and I wan't this retained.
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I want a Port Adelaide in the SANFL that still plays home games, has clubrooms that supporters attend after games.... has players/coaches who's focus is winning the SANFL flag, and who has a 1/10 chance of winning a flag in any given year.

Then what you want is an autonomous Magpies. The Port Model (tm) is as bad as the Crows Model (tm) - both involve a reserves team in a SANFL league contest. Moreover no AFL club has any business developing juniors for topping up a reserves team. If the PAMs could be resurrected as a club in its own right, then great.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Macca19 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:13 pm

Mark_Beswick wrote:I think what they said was


PAMFC will play in the amatuer league in their prison bar jumper

Port Power will play SANFL reserves topped up by PAMFC amatuer league members

Port Magpies will have their zones phased out by 2015

PORT HAVE DONE IT - They have killed off their zones and historic club


So the PAMFC go from playing in the league, to playing Amateurs?
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Pseudo » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:14 pm

Mark_Beswick wrote:I think what they said was


PAMFC will play in the amatuer league in their prison bar jumper

Port Power will play SANFL reserves topped up by PAMFC amatuer league members

Port Magpies will have their zones phased out by 2015

PORT HAVE DONE IT - They have killed off their zones and historic club


Bloody hell! Just when I thought I couldn't hate a "club" as much as the Crows, the Power issues a challenge for the title...
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Magpiespower » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:53 pm

Pseudo wrote:If the PAMs could be resurrected as a club in its own right, then great.


Might struggle to transfer the current supporter/sponsor base over to the Ammos.

Assuming those supporters/sponsors already have loyalties to SAAFL clubs.

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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby csbowes » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:56 pm

No magpies?

How sad is that... my favourite clash of the year is gone.

Definitely the end of the SANFL. It's a different league now.

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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Pseudo » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:59 pm

kneedeepinthehoopla wrote:Ch 7 just announced power reserves in next yr. Will wear prison bar filth, top up players from ammos I think I heard...

Has this been confirmed by another source? Haven't seen it myself yet.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby RustyCage » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:12 pm

Nothing on any other news source, so far it's just bs media rumour #36522
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Panther Pack » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:17 pm

Surely if the Port Adelaide Magpies as we have all known them in the SANFL league no longer exists then the power reserves won't wear the prison bar Guernsey and be called the Magpies.
Wouldn't seem right I reckon.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby beenreal » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:54 am

Must say, this certainly flies in the face of the recent belligerence being portrayed by David Koch and Co.

KT and the Board run a tight ship, so this story leaves me a tad sceptical. To go down this path requires negotiation with other parties, ie amateurs (no not the $ANFL) and I'm not so sure they are as watertight as the PAFC hierarchy.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby mickey » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:21 am

csbowes wrote:No magpies?

How sad is that... my favourite clash of the year is gone.

Definitely the end of the SANFL. It's a different league now.

AFLSA as they say...


But removing the Port Adelaide Football Club, in all its forms, from the SANFL is what most people on here want
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby kneedeepinthehoopla » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:31 am

Pseudo wrote:
kneedeepinthehoopla wrote:Ch 7 just announced power reserves in next yr. Will wear prison bar filth, top up players from ammos I think I heard...

Has this been confirmed by another source? Haven't seen it myself yet.

not as far as I know. just caught it from another room, the oracle Abernathy announced it.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby smac » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:50 am

mickey wrote:
csbowes wrote:No magpies?

How sad is that... my favourite clash of the year is gone.

Definitely the end of the SANFL. It's a different league now.

AFLSA as they say...


But removing the Port Adelaide Football Club, in all its forms, from the SANFL is what most people on here want

No, Port people realising it's at their own hand is what most people here want.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby therisingblues » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:58 am

mickey wrote:
csbowes wrote:No magpies?

How sad is that... my favourite clash of the year is gone.

Definitely the end of the SANFL. It's a different league now.

AFLSA as they say...


But removing the Port Adelaide Football Club, in all its forms, from the SANFL is what most people on here want

Don't think so Mickey.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby on the rails » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:51 am

kneedeepinthehoopla wrote: not as far as I know. just caught it from another room, the oracle Abernathy announced it.


Could you trust Abernathy re his info as a disgraced ex board member?
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby TimmiesChin » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:29 pm

From Keith Thomas today:

Dear Members and Supporters,

The past few weeks have been consumed by the debate as to whether or not the two Adelaide AFL Clubs should be allowed to enter support teams into the SANFL competition, and if so, what conditions should be applied to ensure that such a move benefits all parties concerned.

Since my last CEO update, a few significant developments have occurred.

-The Adelaide Football Club has been granted entry into the SANFL, under a set of conditions which they have agreed to.

- The SANFL has informed Port Adelaide that it is in a position to invite us to promote a PAFC support team on the same terms and conditions as those applied to the Adelaide Football Club. Such approval would require Port Adelaide to dismantle its junior program and recruitment zone, and embrace the top up system as applied to AFC. It has requested that we indicate whether we wish to enter a team under those conditions.

We have responded to the SANFL, reaffirming that we would not be prepared to enter a PAFC support team in the SANFL under the same conditions as the Adelaide Football Club, preferring to maintain our status quo position for season 2014.

We are still seeking to create a future Port Adelaide structure that achieves the following:

- Provides our Club with the best possible chance to win AFL premierships.
- Ensures that the Magpies are retained, fiercely competitive and intent on winning premierships.
- Provides a pathway for junior footballers to develop their skills and love of the game at Port Adelaide, enabling them to ultimately realise their dream of playing league football for the Magpies, or if they are good enough, get drafted into the AFL competition.

Next Steps
The SANFL and its Clubs need to decide whether they wish to invite us to re-join their competition under a new set of Port Adelaide-specific conditions which would enable us to achieve the above criteria.

If not, we will prepare for season 2014 to be status quo as previously stated, and use next year to develop an alternative plan for season 2015 and beyond.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby areaman » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:57 pm

Memo to KT and the PAFC heirachy:

You're position is not strong. You will need to look up the word compromise in the dictionary.

Yes, the deal the Crows have with the SANFL and it's clubs is rubbish.

Promise the clubs some cash, lots of marketing for the SANFL and tell them how good the crowds will be.

That should do the trick.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Barto » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:01 pm

Pseudo wrote:
Mark_Beswick wrote:I think what they said was


PAMFC will play in the amatuer league in their prison bar jumper

Port Power will play SANFL reserves topped up by PAMFC amatuer league members

Port Magpies will have their zones phased out by 2015

PORT HAVE DONE IT - They have killed off their zones and historic club


Bloody hell! Just when I thought I couldn't hate a "club" as much as the Crows, the Power issues a challenge for the title...


They would be ticked about losing their number one spot.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Booney » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:11 pm

smac wrote:
mickey wrote:
csbowes wrote:No magpies?
How sad is that... my favourite clash of the year is gone.
Definitely the end of the SANFL. It's a different league now.
AFLSA as they say...

But removing the Port Adelaide Football Club, in all its forms, from the SANFL is what most people on here want

No, Port people realising it's at their own hand is what most people here want.


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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Booney » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:14 pm

Pseudo wrote:
Mark_Beswick wrote:I think what they said was
PAMFC will play in the amatuer league in their prison bar jumper
Port Power will play SANFL reserves topped up by PAMFC amatuer league members
Port Magpies will have their zones phased out by 2015
PORT HAVE DONE IT - They have killed off their zones and historic club

Bloody hell! Just when I thought I couldn't hate a "club" as much as the Crows, the Power issues a challenge for the title...


Well therein lies an issue. Define what a "club" is, in your view, if you will?
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby therisingblues » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:15 pm

TimmiesChin wrote:From Keith Thomas today:

Dear Members and Supporters,

The past few weeks have been consumed by the debate as to whether or not the two Adelaide AFL Clubs should be allowed to enter support teams into the SANFL competition, and if so, what conditions should be applied to ensure that such a move benefits all parties concerned.

Since my last CEO update, a few significant developments have occurred.

-The Adelaide Football Club has been granted entry into the SANFL, under a set of conditions which they have agreed to.

- The SANFL has informed Port Adelaide that it is in a position to invite us to promote a PAFC support team on the same terms and conditions as those applied to the Adelaide Football Club. Such approval would require Port Adelaide to dismantle its junior program and recruitment zone, and embrace the top up system as applied to AFC. It has requested that we indicate whether we wish to enter a team under those conditions.

We have responded to the SANFL, reaffirming that we would not be prepared to enter a PAFC support team in the SANFL under the same conditions as the Adelaide Football Club, preferring to maintain our status quo position for season 2014.

We are still seeking to create a future Port Adelaide structure that achieves the following:

- Provides our Club with the best possible chance to win AFL premierships.
- Ensures that the Magpies are retained, fiercely competitive and intent on winning premierships.
- Provides a pathway for junior footballers to develop their skills and love of the game at Port Adelaide, enabling them to ultimately realise their dream of playing league football for the Magpies, or if they are good enough, get drafted into the AFL competition.

Next Steps
The SANFL and its Clubs need to decide whether they wish to invite us to re-join their competition under a new set of Port Adelaide-specific conditions which would enable us to achieve the above criteria.

If not, we will prepare for season 2014 to be status quo as previously stated, and use next year to develop an alternative plan for season 2015 and beyond.

My respect for Port has gone up a little.
If they hadn't pulled all those tricks earlier in the season, and if some of their fans weren't so arrogant and selfish, I'd possibly take them up as my AFL side.
As it is I might find it hard to cheer for the Crows again. I may end up at Carlton.
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