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Admission of guilt? Interesting read.

http://www.nafc.com.au

rsemmler wrote:Admission of guilt? Interesting read.

http://www.nafc.com.au

Maybe their accountants have run out of places to hide the over-run!!!!

Hooray, another salary cap topic!! he he

I actually talked to Glenn Elliott and a board member about this article today coincidentally, I think the key quote from the article is:
In recent times several SANFL Clubs, including North Adelaide, have been well under the Salary Cap, as such they have had the capacity to conduct an active recruiting campaign and still comply with the rules. Not sure how that's an admission of guilt, quite the opposite IMHO.

I think its a well written article and I'm not sure if Glenn wrote it or not but he certainly agreed with it.
One of the points that was discussed was how the SANFL wants to make sure it remains the 2nd best league in the land, the AFL wants the SANFL to lower our salary cap which would certainly make sure we dropped to at least 3rd on the list.
If we want to be the 2nd best comp we must have the 2nd best players, quite simple and a very important point.

Also interesting to find that a well publicised recruit of North is not getting more money at his new club than his old club despite speculation to the contrary.

There's quite often well written, interesting articles on the official North site and I'm sure most SANFL fans would enjoy them, I applaud them for that.
Couple of other new features coming up soon with some great comps with great prizes ($1000 a pop) and a very funy player will be replacing Cooky's old articles with some great player interviews.

Also I'd just like those who complain that SAFooty has too many articles about North that most are started by supporters of other clubs as in this instance.

Wedgie wrote:
In recent times several SANFL Clubs, including North Adelaide, have been well under the Salary Cap, as such they have had the capacity to conduct an active recruiting campaign and still comply with the rules. Not sure how that's an admission of guilt, quite the opposite IMHO.

"In recent times" doesn't necessarily mean 2006, Wedgie!

Ecky wrote:"In recent times" doesn't necessarily mean 2006, Wedgie!

I'd assume it meant prior to 2006.

Rest assured though, it seems that North have finished their recruiting for 2006, no more suprises out of the blue, the only possible suprise left could be the re-inclusion of a player half way through the year.

You can all fight away amongst what's left now.

At the pre Darwin info meeting last night, Glenn spoke about salary cap rumours / accusations etc., he assured everyone that North have nothing to hide and have remained under the cap. It was interesting when he mentioned a number of clubs have not been able to spend the cap, and have been well under the cap for some time.

He also mentioned that there would be an article released on the club's web site to try and dispell the unfounded rumours that have been circulating.

Ian wrote:He also mentioned that there would be an article released on the club's web site to try and dispell the unfounded rumours that have been circulating.

Unfortunately I think there's about as much chance of dispelling those rumours as me staying sober in Darwin this weekend.

Wedgie wrote:

Ian wrote:He also mentioned that there would be an article released on the club's web site to try and dispell the unfounded rumours that have been circulating.

Unfortunately I think there's about as much chance of dispelling those rumours as me staying sober in Darwin this weekend.

Alledgedly there may be at least one club in trouble, not North though.

Wedgie, I think the 'key' quote is the following...

The recruitment of a player is much more involved than simply writing a cheque. More and more individuals now assess the issues of playing opportunities, Club structure and financial stability, Coaching staff and employment options as important considerations in arriving at their decision. It is a flawed argument to simply assert that recruiting and salary cap issues are directly linked.

This sounds like North trying to justify why a player recently signed to a particular club. Norwood and North fans will know who I'm talking about.

rsemmler wrote:Wedgie, I think the 'key' quote is the following...

The recruitment of a player is much more involved than simply writing a cheque. More and more individuals now assess the issues of playing opportunities, Club structure and financial stability, Coaching staff and employment options as important considerations in arriving at their decision. It is a flawed argument to simply assert that recruiting and salary cap issues are directly linked.

This sounds like North trying to justify why a player recently signed to a particular club. Norwood and North fans will know who I'm talking about.

I agree that the reasons that players go to some clubs is merely not $$$ related, also another key issue. Also further justifies the point I/North were making. Doesn't sound like justification of anything else at all IMHO, just sounds like commone sense. It's a pity more people don't take this key point into account when trying to work out what clubs are paying players, very important and valid point IMHO.

An eg of this point is how I recently considered taking a pay cut of 15K to join a company more appealing than my current company.

Of course not all recruits are swayed completely by money, but there have been some instances (two very recently) where money was the main factor. In one particular instance, the only factor. Hence why I was interested to read North's comments.

rsemmler wrote:Of course not all recruits are swayed completely by money, but there have been some instances (two very recently) where money was the main factor. In one particular instance, the only factor. Hence why I was interested to read North's comments.

Depends which story you hear rsemmler.
Hypothetically speaking I know if I was an interstate lad and 2 clubs offered me the same money I'd be looking a how each is run, its financial stability, the players there, the coach, facilities, where the best chance of playing finals is, etc. I might even accept lower money at one club if they were a lot more appealing than another.
All hypothetical of course.

What if you (as this interstate player) were taken out for tea by the clubs players, extremely impressed by the clubs professionalism and were ready to play for this club but were offered much more money with another club in the meantime? And since you're such a good young player Wedgie and were looking to get back into the AFL, would you choose a club with the highest rate of players to AFL in the state, or a club with significantly less players to AFL ratio?

All hypothetical of course Wedgie, it must be, you're the player!

Hypothetically speaking if Rosanne Barr paid for me to goto America and have dinner with her at a five star restaurant and then Jennifer Lopez took me out for dinner the following night at McDonalds I know I'd still rather spend the rest of my life in J-Lo's bed!

Wedgie wrote:Hypothetically speaking if Rosanne Barr paid for me to goto America and have dinner with her at a five star restaurant and then Jennifer Lopez took me out for dinner the following night at McDonalds I know I'd still rather spend the rest of my life in J-Lo's bed!

Wedgie wrote:Also interesting to find that a well publicised recruit of North is not getting more money at his new club than his old club despite speculation to the contrary.

Is this the same recruit who didn't get on that well with one of his team mates last year?

And the club chose his rookie team mate over him, much to the amazement of many people @ the club?

An interesting read: North didn't deny it was over the salary cap yet listed a multitude of reasons why it should be. Additionally it didn't say whether it approved the salary cap or not.

It's a nice fluffy whinge.

Borat wrote:Is this the same recruit who didn't get on that well with one of his team mates last year?

And the club chose his rookie team mate over him, much to the amazement of many people @ the club?

Nup.

rsemmler, I'm sure most football followers would know why North's latest recruit went to them, rather than Norwood.

Love of the guernsey.

West had Sam Hunt close to signing, I believe, before he quickly signed with North.

There's that guernsey again

redandblack wrote:rsemmler, I'm sure most football followers would know why North's latest recruit went to them, rather than Norwood.

Love of the guernsey.

West had Sam Hunt close to signing, I believe, before he quickly signed with North.

There's that guernsey again

Id just like it point out that r&b is the only one who is mentioning the "love of the guernsey" as reason for players choosing clubs, I assume he means it jokingly too with the smiley. Fairly irrelevent IMHO especially for I/S recruits.

As mentioned previously other factors such as playing opportunities, Club structure, financial stability, likelihood to play finals, enjoyable environment, coaching staff, assistance in relocating small business, assistance with education and employment would all be paramount in the smarter players minds these days. Having a professional football manager is essential to clubs, luckily North have the best in James Moore with daylight second IMHO.

And if playing for the "love of the guernsey" was paramount, who would play for those ghastly tops the Eagles wear?