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Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:30 pm
by Barto
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/n ... fault.aspx

A day when others emotion and envy ruled their hearts ... not their heads.


They've really got to drop this notion that the rest of the clubs said no out of some kind of spite.

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:33 pm
by MW
Tredders that is a shocking article. Us against the rest hey...gee whiz. :lol:

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:44 pm
by whatever
Interesting, I love the passion.

Not sure that it is the smartest move by the power to be aligning themselves so close to the emotions of the arguement.

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:40 pm
by topsywaldron
Barto wrote:http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6038/newsid/89379/default.aspx


:ymsick:

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:45 pm
by rod_rooster
Good footballer but not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:50 pm
by Stevie_K
rod_rooster wrote:Good footballer but not the sharpest tool in the shed.


+1

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:51 pm
by Mr Irate
" I might not be the world’s biggest financial expert".......

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:12 pm
by Hopeful Jelly
"But obviously bigger issues remain. Port is a sufferer of its own success. Or the envy of others."
"A day when others emotion and envy ruled their hearts ... not their heads."

With comments like these, no wonder it's "Us Against The Rest".

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:14 pm
by rod_rooster
Hopeful Jelly wrote:"But obviously bigger issues remain. Port is a sufferer of its own success. Or the envy of others."
"A day when others emotion and envy ruled their hearts ... not their heads."

With comments like these, no wonder it's "Us Against The Rest".


The most ridiculous thing about these comments is that it was really the case of the clubs heads ruling over their hearts. He's got it around the wrong way.

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:33 pm
by Brucetiki
Just when I though Warren couldn't stoop any lower

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:37 pm
by StrayDog
Mr Irate wrote:" I might not be the world’s biggest financial expert".......

A candidate for your next signature perhaps, Irate? :)

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:48 pm
by Mr Irate
StrayDog wrote:
Mr Irate wrote:" I might not be the world’s biggest financial expert".......

A candidate for your next signature perhaps, Irate? :)


Only fact in the entire article.........

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:53 pm
by Mr Irate
Mr Irate wrote:
StrayDog wrote:
Mr Irate wrote:" I might not be the world’s biggest financial expert".......

A candidate for your next signature perhaps, Irate? :)


Only fact in the entire article.........


and the inclusion of one fact will now preclude him future employment as a chief football writer of the 'tiser

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:58 pm
by hearts on fire
Tredrea= Rucci's apprentice

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:06 am
by CUTTERMAN
I liked this one-
"Port Adelaide always does the heavy-lifting for football in this state."
Hello Warren, how many $$$ has the SANFL just forked out and will continue to fork out for you bloody club and your wage?

And how much $$$ have your tonka truck of a club returned back to the SANFL?

If anyone has done the heavy lifting in this state it would be Adelaide. FFS!
Who wrote that for you Wazza? M.Rucci?

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:28 am
by 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR
He's not showing any sign of the PR and Media training that AFL players are given is he?

And aren't they meant to learn about being accountable for yourself and to your team?
Isn't showing any sign of that either.

I'm all for promoting ways and ideas for the Magpies to survive this crisis, but is he?
it's all about blaming the "other guys" for not doing their job

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:26 am
by Macca19
CUTTERMAN wrote:I liked this one-
"Port Adelaide always does the heavy-lifting for football in this state."
Hello Warren, how many $$$ has the SANFL just forked out and will continue to fork out for you bloody club and your wage?

And how much $$$ have your tonka truck of a club returned back to the SANFL?

If anyone has done the heavy lifting in this state it would be Adelaide. FFS!
Who wrote that for you Wazza? M.Rucci?


Port Adelaide generates 12 million in revenue which goes directly into the SANFLs coffers on a yearly basis. This is money the club generates, the SANFL just opens its stadium. This is money that goes direct to the SANFL, Port get none of it. Feel free to explain how given this, and given that BOTH the states AFL clubs are combined 7 million behind in stadium return compared to the rest of the league, how the Power returns nothing to the SANFL.

The money the SANFL has given the PAFC is just money it has made by playing games at Footy Park. Its money the club would have kept for itself, if playing at any other ground in any other state in the country.

These are facts stated by Whicker himself. So again, feel free to explain who is propping up whom here. Im not expecting any sympathy here, given its an SANFL site and all, but most people should be able to realise that the deal between the SANFL and the Crows and the Power is seriously ****** up. The fact that the Crows are $2.4 million behind the rest of the league despite selling out the ground every week for the past 10 years, shows which out of the SANFL and the AFL clubs is propping up who.

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:40 am
by Wedgie
Stevie_K wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:Good footballer but not the sharpest tool in the shed.


+1


Add another one here, first thing I thought of. Although he's not the sharpest tool he does make a wonderful step ladder.

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:53 am
by am Bays
Macca19 wrote:Port Adelaide generates 12 million in revenue which goes directly into the SANFLs coffers on a yearly basis. This is money the club generates, the SANFL just opens its stadium. This is money that goes direct to the SANFL, Port get none of it. Feel free to explain how given this, and given that BOTH the states AFL clubs are combined 7 million behind in stadium return compared to the rest of the league, how the Power returns nothing to the SANFL.

The money the SANFL has given the PAFC is just money it has made by playing games at Footy Park. Its money the club would have kept for itself, if playing at any other ground in any other state in the country.

These are facts stated by Whicker himself. So again, feel free to explain who is propping up whom here. Im not expecting any sympathy here, given its an SANFL site and all, but most people should be able to realise that the deal between the SANFL and the Crows and the Power is seriously ****** up. The fact that the Crows are $2.4 million behind the rest of the league despite selling out the ground every week for the past 10 years, shows which out of the SANFL and the AFL clubs is propping up who.


Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the funding model for the Crows ad Port Power changed in the early 2000s from one where they returned a part of their profit to the SANFL (80%) IIRC but had cheaper costs at the the stadium to one where they kept their more of their end of year return but had increased cost at the Footy Park??

If my memoery is correct isn't this stadium deal the AFL clubs own making??

Re: Tredrea Weighs In

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:21 am
by TimmiesChin
am Bays wrote:If my memoery is correct isn't this stadium deal the AFL clubs own making??

Nah,

there are two components. Each year the clubs send a dividen of their profits back to the SANFL. The power is around the $300K mark, the Crows double that (in recognition of the size).

The other componet is stadium revenue. Its pretty murky and hard to understand as the SANFL refuses to release the details (I suspect you will find some incentive payments get paid based on revenue figures).....

What seems to be known (happy for anyone to provide more accurate information)> is that all signage (apart from the digital signage the clubs paid to install on the fence) goes to the SANFL. All catering and parking revenue goes to the SANFL (Although each club has a corporate facility). It also seems that the clubs have to pay wages on the day for staff - so for instance hosting a Sunday game costs clubs more due to award wages.

In essence the SANFL takes the lions share of the revenue generated, but the clubs foot the lions share of the wage bills.

My personal opinion is we should be adopting the WAFL model of clean stadiums, or some element of the signage, parking, and catering revenue should go to the clubs.

Todays paper suggest $12 million of revenue was generated by port games this year..... probably $16 - $18 million at crows games. Given prices of beer and food there would be at least a 50-70% return as profits to the SANFL.