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Ian Perrie to play for the Eagles

Posted:
Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:33 pm
by Wedgie
reserves this week.
Great to see him in the changerooms at Prossie after the game, he looks dead keen to resume playing for the Roosters.

Posted:
Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:38 pm
by mal
How are WWT seconds going to fit them all in when they are all fit:
PERRIE,WELSH,BOCK...................................
Good luck Ian this week.

Posted:
Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:50 pm
by Blue Boy
mal wrote:How are WWT seconds going to fit them all in when they are all fit:
PERRIE,WELSH,BOCK...................................
Good luck Ian this week.
I know its not the correct thing to do but hey Id fit them in to the side if I had to !!!

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:18 am
by MightyEagles
We'll fit them in where we can.

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:29 am
by Booney
Will Perrie,Bock or Welsh make it back into the Crows team by September? Wouldn't think so.Who would they leave out if they are coming back in?

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:10 pm
by sus
I wouldnt be surprised if the Eagles pass up on Perrie or any other AFL player who needs a run while their SANFL club has the bye. Even though they are bottom they are the form team at the minute and might just want to give a youngster or two every possible opportunity.

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:39 pm
by JK
Booney wrote:Will Perrie,Bock or Welsh make it back into the Crows team by September? Wouldn't think so.Who would they leave out if they are coming back in?
I think Welsh would for sure if he can remain injury free from here on in ... Most probably Perrie would too, whilst Bock's chances would probably hinge on Stevens' form or health taking a dip for the worse

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:52 pm
by Booney
Which tall forward would they drop for Perrie CP?
Look at the talls.McGregor-Nope.Hetschel-Nope.Stevens?-Nope,they wont want to send McGregor back so either Stevens or Bock(though I doubt Bock would be fit enough to make it back).I cant see any of them getting back into what us currently the strongest AFL unit.

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:58 pm
by sus
Booney wrote:Will Perrie,Bock or Welsh make it back into the Crows team by September? Wouldn't think so.Who would they leave out if they are coming back in?
They will make room for Perrie or Welsh by moving Roo back into the midifield - probably Welsh becuase its his role that Roo is playing at the moment. Maybe Bock for Stevens, he's certainly a better all-round player in my opinion but it just depends on how form holds up and injury I suppose.

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:01 pm
by Bluedemon
if welsh is fit he will play for westies this week

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:03 pm
by JK
Booney wrote:Which tall forward would they drop for Perrie CP?
Look at the talls.McGregor-Nope.Hetschel-Nope.Stevens?-Nope,they wont want to send McGregor back so either Stevens or Bock(though I doubt Bock would be fit enough to make it back).I cant see any of them getting back into what us currently the strongest AFL unit.
I would imagine he would get a run at some stage even if for no other reason than to better his preparation should he be required throughout the finals series ... That said, the longer McGregor continues to be down a little the more he might have to look over his shoulder??

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:23 pm
by Booney
sus wrote:Booney wrote:Will Perrie,Bock or Welsh make it back into the Crows team by September? Wouldn't think so.Who would they leave out if they are coming back in?
They will make room for Perrie or Welsh by moving Roo back into the midifield - probably Welsh becuase its his role that Roo is playing at the moment. Maybe Bock for Stevens, he's certainly a better all-round player in my opinion but it just depends on how form holds up and injury I suppose.
You can put Roo in the middle but you have to drop 2 players to get Perrie/Bock back in,so who will it be?

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:03 pm
by Leaping Lindner
Booney wrote:sus wrote:Booney wrote:Will Perrie,Bock or Welsh make it back into the Crows team by September? Wouldn't think so.Who would they leave out if they are coming back in?
They will make room for Perrie or Welsh by moving Roo back into the midifield - probably Welsh becuase its his role that Roo is playing at the moment. Maybe Bock for Stevens, he's certainly a better all-round player in my opinion but it just depends on how form holds up and injury I suppose.
You can put Roo in the middle but you have to drop 2 players to get Perrie/Bock back in,so who will it be?
Yep, Stevens is gone so say Bock for Stevens, but realistically the Crows have Perrie, Hart, Hudson and Welsh in their best 22. Whilst it is nice having some depth at the Crows (at last) there will be some severe heartbreak come september for some players.

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:09 pm
by Booney
With the strict "non-negotiable's" that Neil Craig has in place there is no chance of Bock,Welsh or Hudson being up to speed for this years finals series.No chance.Bock the only only one with a sniff.The others will only be back in case of emergency.(As long as they are fit and in form in the SANFL)

Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:53 pm
by giffo
Will be some very tough decisions at West Lakes. Almost as hard as Jonas' call on Scott Lee in the 2000 GF

Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:34 am
by Sploosh
Booney wrote:With the strict "non-negotiable's" that Neil Craig has in place ...
What are these? What rules has Craig publically (privately?) said must apply for selection/inclusion in the team? I'm genuinely interested.

Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:03 am
by Booney
Sploosh wrote:Booney wrote:With the strict "non-negotiable's" that Neil Craig has in place ...
What are these? What rules has Craig publically (privately?) said must apply for selection/inclusion in the team? I'm genuinely interested.
Sploosh,I am not in a position that allows me to have any inside knowledge of these practices,what I am aware though is Craig and some senior players have mentioned these "non-negotiables" and have stated they must be followed.Ruccuito made mention of them in his return from his hamstring and that I believe is why he missed an extra game,even though he felt he was ready for a return.Craig made mention of this also when he said Ruccuito had not completed the work required and was therefore unavailabe for selection.

Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:00 pm
by Maddogmike
In The week leading up to a return from injury the player in question has to complete 2 game type runs, 1 is ironically named the "Riccuito run" and the other is the "Goodwin run". The first is based on running hard whilst being applied with physical pressure from tacklers/tackling bags etc, while the 2nd is an endurance run which they have to complete in a certain time to be deemed fit to play. They then have to complete the main training session at full pace etc.

Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:58 pm
by sydney-dog
Constance_Perm & Booney
Craigy has gone public in recent weeks by sayinf, if fit, Perrie, Bock and Welsh are in in his best 22
Over the past 18mths Craigy has shown his hand in playing three talls up forward when available..... Personally even given Steven's form in the past month I still have a real concern with his ability one on one in a contested marking contest, come finals he would be exposed to a gun forward in a big game..
Both Bock and Perrie's possible selection would give the crows added flexibility, obviously Bock can play back but Perrie up front could release McGregor down back if required and Welsh's selection could release the Roo in the midfield if required......
The additional value is that these boys have not seen much footy, so they will be fresh and hungry, with 8 weeks before finals they have plenty of time to get match fit, not to mention the pressure for spots will keep everyone honest

Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:34 pm
by am Bays
For me I cant see how the Crows have played all year they can fit in Welsh Bock and Perrie into Crows structure this year. especially with two other certainties for the line up to come back in Van Berlo and Hart.
I see Perrie for Stevens, Hart for Massie/Torney, Van Berlo for Doughty, Welsh for Skipworth-Ruccitio goes into the midfield line.
To bring in Bock a midsized defender/forward would have to be cut. To bring in Bock would reduce the run/endurance the Crows have demonstrated all year to be the key to their game plan, players behind the ball then quick precise passing to a hardworking forward up in the midfield option (McGregor or Hentschell), hand off to a running midfielder/defender Goodwin, McLoed/Reilly to a kick to a leading forward (Ruccitio) or a kick to a tall (Hentschell or Mcgregor or flying Burton) with crumbers around him (Bode primarily) to kick the goals.
Shirley and Van Berlo are the main run-with players.
So unless injuries crop up or they are playing a gainst a tall forward line someone out of Hentschell/Perrie/McGregor/Bock will miss out.
If he wants to play Bock as well the other talls someone out of Shirley, Van Berlo, Mattner, Bassett, Torney, Thompson, or Bode will miss out. IMO if one of those miss out it will compromise the Crows current winning structure by limiting their running ability and passing.
I can't see Reilly, Goodwin, Ruccitio, Johncock, Biglands, Maric/Clarke/Hudson, Rutten, McLoed, Burton or Edwards, getting dropped at the minute.
Interested who others think should get dropped.