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More classic AFL tokenism from the Advertiser.

Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:29 pm
by spell_check
Now, I think North fans would agree with me on this one, how does Ben Hudson get a vote in the Advertiser player of the year? Surely if any North player deserved a vote on the weekend it would be Ivens or Ladhams, but I smell a classic case of 'give an AFL player a vote'.
In a closer match the 3-2-1 all went to the winning side - Port Adelaide, but guess who got the one vote? An AFL player, Adam Kingsley.
Another thing that I've noticed over the past few years is that a feature SANFL story is always placed in amongst the rather brief and 'coaches comments only' articles of the matches. It used to be a two page spead of articles, can't we have that and the feature article on another page?

Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:57 pm
by Punk Rooster
Spelly, a lot of North fans gave Ben Hudson BOG (for North)...

Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:10 pm
by spell_check
Hmm, well I guess that's not who I personally would have given best for North, but then again North fans are better placed to do that. BUT, do you agree in that he wasn't quite good enough for a vote and it is just AFL tokenism that got him one?

Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:59 pm
by Punk Rooster
I was surprised that they considered that a North player was the 3rd best on ground.
Re: More classic AFL tokenism from the Advertiser.

Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:31 pm
by Macca19
spell_check wrote:In a closer match the 3-2-1 all went to the winning side - Port Adelaide, but guess who got the one vote? An AFL player, Adam Kingsley.
Kinger was definately in the top 5 players on the ground, I think anyone that saw the game would agree with that. Top 3....I would have had him 4th but I can definately see how someone would have had him in the top 3.
Re: More classic AFL tokenism from the Advertiser.

Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:38 pm
by spell_check
Macca19 wrote:spell_check wrote:In a closer match the 3-2-1 all went to the winning side - Port Adelaide, but guess who got the one vote? An AFL player, Adam Kingsley.
Kinger was definately in the top 5 players on the ground, I think anyone that saw the game would agree with that. Top 3....I would have had him 4th but I can definately see how someone would have had him in the top 3.
I know it is hard for me to even comment on a game I didn't see; it just seems strange to me that it is another AFL player who gets the votes.

Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:54 pm
by Wedgie
I had Ivens and Koops and then Hudson as my 3 best for North, definately had Huddo ahead of Ladhams though.

Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:58 pm
by drebin
Punk Rooster wrote:I was surprised that they considered that a North player was the 3rd best on ground.
That is the biggest farce - no way would a North player get near the top half a dozen on the ground and the topic header says it all.


Posted:
Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:02 pm
by Wedgie
Agreed fellas, I would have had probably 10 Eagles players before I hit the first North player.

Posted:
Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:23 am
by sus
I agree - I thought exactly the same thing spelly when reading the votes. Crowcentricity at its most obvious.
Re: More classic AFL tokenism from the Advertiser.

Posted:
Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:24 pm
by MW
spell_check wrote:Macca19 wrote:spell_check wrote:In a closer match the 3-2-1 all went to the winning side - Port Adelaide, but guess who got the one vote? An AFL player, Adam Kingsley.
Kinger was definately in the top 5 players on the ground, I think anyone that saw the game would agree with that. Top 3....I would have had him 4th but I can definately see how someone would have had him in the top 3.
I know it is hard for me to even comment on a game I didn't see; it just seems strange to me that it is another AFL player who gets the votes.
How can you make comment on best players when you did not even see the game???

Re: More classic AFL tokenism from the Advertiser.

Posted:
Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:46 pm
by spell_check
MW wrote:spell_check wrote:Macca19 wrote:spell_check wrote:In a closer match the 3-2-1 all went to the winning side - Port Adelaide, but guess who got the one vote? An AFL player, Adam Kingsley.
Kinger was definately in the top 5 players on the ground, I think anyone that saw the game would agree with that. Top 3....I would have had him 4th but I can definately see how someone would have had him in the top 3.
I know it is hard for me to even comment on a game I didn't see; it just seems strange to me that it is another AFL player who gets the votes.
How can you make comment on best players when you did not even see the game???

I said it is hard for me to say whether or not he should have got the vote; it just seems strange in a close match that all three were from the winning team, and one of them was an AFL player. I never said he shouldn't have got it.

Posted:
Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:16 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
Unfortunately, if it wasn't for AFL players in the SANFL, the press wouldn't talk about us at all, so I suppose we should be thankful.
I know what you are saying though. I've seen a number of AFL players rank very highly in SANFL best player lists when I thought they hadn't played all that well.
Re: More classic AFL tokenism from the Advertiser.

Posted:
Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:22 pm
by Macca19
spell_check wrote:MW wrote:spell_check wrote:Macca19 wrote:spell_check wrote:In a closer match the 3-2-1 all went to the winning side - Port Adelaide, but guess who got the one vote? An AFL player, Adam Kingsley.
Kinger was definately in the top 5 players on the ground, I think anyone that saw the game would agree with that. Top 3....I would have had him 4th but I can definately see how someone would have had him in the top 3.
I know it is hard for me to even comment on a game I didn't see; it just seems strange to me that it is another AFL player who gets the votes.
How can you make comment on best players when you did not even see the game???

I said it is hard for me to say whether or not he should have got the vote; it just seems strange in a close match that all three were from the winning team, and one of them was an AFL player. I never said he shouldn't have got it.
Port dominated for three quarters. Kingsley was the catalyst in the first quarter...really set things in motion. Also was one of the key players in the last quarter as well.
I think McCabe probably should have got 1 vote.

Posted:
Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:18 am
by NFC
Conspiracy theories eh? Mate I think you need to get over your hatred for the AFL, it’s a terrific competition and you should learn to enjoy both.

Posted:
Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:37 am
by spell_check
NFC wrote:Conspiracy theories eh? Mate I think you need to get over your hatred for the AFL, it’s a terrific competition and you should learn to enjoy both.


Posted:
Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:31 am
by Ian
NFC wrote:Conspiracy theories eh? Mate I think you need to get over your hatred for the AFL, it’s a terrific competition and you should learn to enjoy both.

If it was so terrfific, you wouldn't have to "learn" to enjoy it, it would just happen.

Posted:
Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:41 pm
by mick
spell_check wrote:NFC wrote:Conspiracy theories eh? Mate I think you need to get over your hatred for the AFL, it’s a terrific competition and you should learn to enjoy both.
I think AFL is overhyped overpriced crap.


Posted:
Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:58 pm
by NFC
Ian wrote:NFC wrote:Conspiracy theories eh? Mate I think you need to get over your hatred for the AFL, it’s a terrific competition and you should learn to enjoy both.

If it was so terrfific, you wouldn't have to "learn" to enjoy it, it would just happen.
You got what I was saying though, right?

Posted:
Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:16 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
mick wrote:spell_check wrote:NFC wrote:Conspiracy theories eh? Mate I think you need to get over your hatred for the AFL, it’s a terrific competition and you should learn to enjoy both.
I think AFL is overhyped overpriced crap.

I think ........ I agree with you
