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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby dedja » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:28 pm

Has to play 12 AFL games to be bestowed that honour ...
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt
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Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Jim05 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:30 pm

dedja wrote:Has to play 12 AFL games to be bestowed that honour ...

Did he really play that many?
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby dedja » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:33 pm

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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Big Phil » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:14 am

Former Central District player Jacob Templeton officially an Eagle while former junior and GWS listed player Joshua Growden returns to the club...

http://www.wwtfc.com.au/?p=28835
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Big Phil » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:15 am

Two more official recruits for the Bulldogs...

Former Port Magpies and Power Rookie Justin Hoskin and delisted Kangaroos ruckman Ben Mabon...

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2347/
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:20 am

Far out, is there some traffic or what this season!

Of course, we've got the pick of the recruits. The rest of you guys are dreaming if you think your recruits are all going to be successes.
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby mal » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:35 am

If Fos Williams and Jack Oatey were still alive they would be embarrassed at how the SANFL has become this coming season
What ever happened to loyalty , playing for the jumper ?
Clubs to be used once again to prop up ailing or fledging AFL draft players
The Port Adelaide saga has been a farce, the comp wont be the same without this club as we used to know it

Gone are the years when supporters looked forward to what SANFL junior at the club would make a pre season impact

The AFL has these days more or less ruined this once magnificent comp

Guys like Centurion tried their best to save the comp
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Fricky » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:16 am

mal wrote:If Fos Williams and Jack Oatey were still alive they would be embarrassed at how the SANFL has become this coming season
What ever happened to loyalty , playing for the jumper ?
Clubs to be used once again to prop up ailing or fledging AFL draft players
The Port Adelaide saga has been a farce, the comp wont be the same without this club as we used to know it

Gone are the years when supporters looked forward to what SANFL junior at the club would make a pre season impact

The AFL has these days more or less ruined this once magnificent comp

Guys like Centurion tried their best to save the comp


The Fos Williams that started at West and then went to Port. And the Jack Oatey who started at Norwood before going to Sturt. Give me a break :roll:
Loyalty has been long gone for players and coaches, the only loyalty left is that of supporters who stand by their clubs through thick and thin.
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby mal » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:42 am

Jack Oatey [NW] played for 1 club in 181 games

Fos Williams[WA + PA] represented 2 clubs in 239 games

They coached at various clubs
But that's the nature of coaching , many players coach at different clubs
There's only been about 8-10 teams in the comp when Jack and Fos coached

Suri , will agree on one thing
Loyalty is supporting clubs though thick and thin
Those around my club , know how much I contribute
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby SDK » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:22 pm

Jack Oatey also coached West Adelaide but with no success.
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Aerie » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:39 pm

Big Phil wrote:Former Central District player Jacob Templeton officially an Eagle while former junior and GWS listed player Joshua Growden returns to the club...

http://www.wwtfc.com.au/?p=28835


Godden needed a Templeton. Now the Eagles can spiritually Growden as a playing group and hopefully win the flag in 2014!
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Big Phil » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:24 pm

Norwood officially sign former Brisbane Lions midfielder Callum Bartlett...

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2348/
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Big Phil » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:25 pm

So the Legs can only recruit one more player from outside their zone? Is that right?
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Jim05 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:19 pm

Big Phil wrote:So the Legs can only recruit one more player from outside their zone? Is that right?

Correct
Hopefully another ex player or 2 sign on in the next few months
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby areaman » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:01 pm

daysofourlives wrote:From that list i'd give 6 a definite pass mark and am prepared to include Broadbent and possibly Redden of the under 100 gamers leaving 11 that didnt cut it making it about 30-40% go onto play 100 AFL games. How does this compare to the average across the AFL?The disappointing thing is the amount that are never heard from again after falling off AFL lists that dont even have a career at SANFL level, which was/is the point im trying to make.
The eagles are good at making kids standout but the amount that are never heard from again is abnormally high i would think.

Interesting that you give 6 of the Eagles recruits a pass mark - 6 is the total number of Central juniors drafted in both the main and rookie drafts in the past 6 years.

In the same time the Eagles have had 21 players drafted (17) or rookie listed (4).

No doubt you'll be able to find some spin to discredit all of this but these are the raw numbers.

BTW I think you find the stats on the total number of drafted players who don't make 100 games to be quite alarming. If WWT have 30%-40% of draftees making 100 games then they are way ahead of the average.

Here is a stat from a couple of years ago:

The facts, taken from AFL drafts between 1996 and 2005, are these:

29% of top 10 selections play 50 games or fewer; only 51% reach 100 games.
55% of those picked after selection No.10 play 50 games or fewer.
44% of those picked after selection No.10 play 25 games or fewer.
16% of those picked after selection No.10 never get to take the field at all.
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby Wedgie » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:09 pm

Depending on what time frame you use several different clubs including the Eagles, West, North, Norwood, etc have had periods of bring on top in regard t how many players have been drafted. Personally I wouldn't care less if my team were top or bottom in that aspect unless they start handing out premiership points for drafted kids.
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby RustyCage » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:37 pm

Full comprehensive draft stats coming up tonight, just finishing off my records which I'll upload into here, starting from 2000.
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:53 pm

areaman wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:From that list i'd give 6 a definite pass mark and am prepared to include Broadbent and possibly Redden of the under 100 gamers leaving 11 that didnt cut it making it about 30-40% go onto play 100 AFL games. How does this compare to the average across the AFL?The disappointing thing is the amount that are never heard from again after falling off AFL lists that dont even have a career at SANFL level, which was/is the point im trying to make.
The eagles are good at making kids standout but the amount that are never heard from again is abnormally high i would think.

Interesting that you give 6 of the Eagles recruits a pass mark - 6 is the total number of Central juniors drafted in both the main and rookie drafts in the past 6 years. But yet we won 3 flags, go figure

In the same time the Eagles have had 21 players drafted (17) or rookie listed (4).

No doubt you'll be able to find some spin to discredit all of this but these are the raw numbers.
Sorry i didnt realize SANFL clubs are in existence to supply AFL clubs with players, thats where we have been going wrong, while we were winning 9 flags the rest of you were developing players for the AFL.

BTW I think you find the stats on the total number of drafted players who don't make 100 games to be quite alarming. If WWT have 30%-40% of draftees making 100 games then they are way ahead of the average.

Here is a stat from a couple of years ago:

The facts, taken from AFL drafts between 1996 and 2005, are these:

29% of top 10 selections play 50 games or fewer; only 51% reach 100 games.
55% of those picked after selection No.10 play 50 games or fewer.
44% of those picked after selection No.10 play 25 games or fewer.
16% of those picked after selection No.10 never get to take the field at all.


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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby SDK » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:03 pm

Hopefully Batsanis will return as well giving us just one more to come ..... apart from any other returning Redlegs.
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

Postby whufc » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:11 pm

Pretty sad times for the SANFL

We now have arguably the two best SANFL footballers in the last ten years changing clubs purely for money.

I can understand why but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

SANFL relies on its tribal passion, if players are going to move from club to club like the NBA I can see even more people walking away.
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