The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:00 pm

LMA wrote:
Groucho wrote:
Pseudo wrote:One down, two to go.


Thin end of the wedge?

Please. Please Please. :YMPRAY: Let's hope so. Roll on 8 team REAL S.A.N.F.L. :)


Here to stay. The AFL are putting their eggs into the AFLW basket, there will be no AFL reserves anytime soon.

Yep.
Happy for them and the Crows to have stricter guidelines to keep them at the bottom though
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby LMA » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:26 pm

Jim05 wrote:
LMA wrote:
Groucho wrote:
Pseudo wrote:One down, two to go.


Thin end of the wedge?

Please. Please Please. :YMPRAY: Let's hope so. Roll on 8 team REAL S.A.N.F.L. :)


Here to stay. The AFL are putting their eggs into the AFLW basket, there will be no AFL reserves anytime soon.

Yep.
Happy for them and the Crows to have stricter guidelines to keep them at the bottom though


Ebbs and Flows. Too unpredictable, are you suggesting limiting the amount of AFL listed players that play each week
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:32 pm

LMA wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
LMA wrote:
Groucho wrote:[quote="Pseudo"]One down, two to go.


Thin end of the wedge?

Please. Please Please. :YMPRAY: Let's hope so. Roll on 8 team REAL S.A.N.F.L. :)


Here to stay. The AFL are putting their eggs into the AFLW basket, there will be no AFL reserves anytime soon.

Yep.
Happy for them and the Crows to have stricter guidelines to keep them at the bottom though


Ebbs and Flows. Too unpredictable, are you suggesting limiting the amount of AFL listed players that play each week[/quote]
I’ve had to come around to the realisation that they aren’t going anywhere but doesn’t mean the league shouldn’t be exploring options to keep them out of finals and anchored at the bottom. I would look at capping AFL numbers. Obviously make it so the top ups are just average park footballers and I’d make finals qualification a lot harder, something like once you have played 3 AFL games you can’t play SANFL finals
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby LMA » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:57 pm

3 AFL games, that could potentially be up to 10 players
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:53 pm

LMA wrote:3 AFL games, that could potentially be up to 10 players

Bad luck, they have to field a team of top ups
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby hollywood7477 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:58 pm

Im surprised they havent called for North to be kicked out of the SANFL with Port and the Crows. Especially as port and the crows cheat with all the advantages they get being an AFL club. everyone saying North cheated may as well put them all in the same boat
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby another grub » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:15 pm

Im not sure who's to blame the AFL or Donald Trump
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:45 pm

Adelaide making their presence felt again.

19th man bullshit coming into the SANFL now.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby another grub » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:53 pm

The 4,000 ravens fans are going to protest at AO this weekend about it. Hope it doesnt ruin the game
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Aerie » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:25 pm

This thread takes me back to the time when the only integrity issues we had was with the AFL teams. Good times.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:47 pm

Booney wrote:Adelaide making their presence felt again.

19th man bullshit coming into the SANFL now.

Trigg is a genius!
He claimed the 19th man could be the difference
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby heater31 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:07 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:Adelaide making their presence felt again.

19th man bullshit coming into the SANFL now.

Trigg is a genius!
He claimed the 19th man could be the difference
Ok we need to kick this player out as well as the bastard children [emoji6]
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:08 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:Adelaide making their presence felt again.

19th man bullshit coming into the SANFL now.

Trigg is a genius!
He claimed the 19th man could be the difference

And quality choking by the eagles. Another Adelaide trait.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby therisingblues » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:31 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:Adelaide making their presence felt again.

19th man bullshit coming into the SANFL now.

Trigg is a genius!
He claimed the 19th man could be the difference

He apparently sat on the wing for 3 and a half minutes eating an apricot slice, waiting for the scoreboard to tell him what to do next, then came off in confusion.
Trigg's fingerprints all over it!
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby sib » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:38 pm

Matthew Wright returning to Adelaide as a part time development coach and SANFL captain
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Re: SANFL

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:03 pm

Port Adelaide Academy side no more.

Eligibility for AFC and PAFC tops ups to change.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:23 pm

The SA Football Commission today approved a series of changes to regulations for players on the Port Adelaide and Adelaide Football Clubs’ supplementary lists.

The process involved detailed consideration by the Commission, with the changes designed to enhance the attractiveness and quality of the SANFL Competition.

Intended to provide an opportunity for players who would otherwise be overlooked for selection on a SANFL senior list, the changes also relate to players involved with the Power and Crows’ Next Generation and Father-Son Academies.

‘’In making these changes we were determined to ensure that SANFL and its clubs continue to provide the best talent pathway opportunities to young South Australians, ensuring as many players as possible reach the AFL,’’ SANFL Football Operations Manager Tom Hurley said.

‘’It will ultimately increase the pool of talent at SANFL level, whilst maximising the resource available for talent development in this state. In that respect, it is important SANFL continues to make decisions on talent in South Australia, taking into account the ever-changing national framework.

“Importantly, SANFL Clubs will remain the primary talent development pathway for young South Australian males and females.”

Furthermore, it has also been agreed by both the Port Adelaide Football Club and SA Football Commission that PAFC no longer field a team in the SANFL Reserves competition.

As a result, from season 2019, the SANFL Reserves competition will become an eight-team competition.

“Having an even number of teams in the Reserves competition, which will now align with the eight-team Under 18 Torrens University Cup competition, will remove the need for a bye each week,’’ Hurley said.

‘’It will also provide for a more effective competition structure with respect to the fixturing of games across all grades of SANFL competition.’’

The SA Football Commission concluded the annual review of the licence conditions and list regulations pertaining to the Adelaide and Port Adelaide Football Club participation in the SANFL competition and has approved the following as players eligible for the AFL clubs supplementary lists:

Any South Australian player who is attaining the age of 19 or older and who is not on the Senior List of a SANFL Club (which is a list of 40 players).
One Leadership Player who has attained the age of twenty six (26) years prior to or during the calendar year in which he is first included on the supplementary list who has been on any AFL list in the season immediately prior.
A maximum of four players from interstate that have attained the age of 18 on January 1st in the year in which they are first included on the AFL club supplementary list (turning 19) but who have not attained the age of 21 on January 1st , each of which can be listed for a maximum of two seasons.
AFL approved Next Generation Academy (NGA) and Father Son players can be temporarily permitted during their 18th and 19th years (the years in which they are eligible for drafting with concessions) if nominated by the AFL club they are aligned to. It should be noted that this is subject to the player electing and agreeing to being nominated by AFC and PAFC for temporary permit.
In the 18th year, such a player can be permitted for a period of four games, but will not be eligible for a permit if they have already played League Football at their SANFL club. The SANFL Club will receive a fee in the sum of $2,500.
In the 19th year, a nominated NGA and Father Son player would be available for selection at AFC or PAFC only. At the conclusion of their 19th year SANFL club will have the right to list the player on their senior list. The SANFL Club will receive a fee, in addition to any fee received in the players 18th year, in the sum of $5,000.
Also, a player payment cap will be introduced for the AFC and PAFC in line with the other SANFL clubs, consisting of:

Match payments at a maximum of $400 per League match.
An upfront/base payment maximum (per individual) of $4,000.
Total upfront/base payments (collective) of not more than $20,000.
In addition, the Leadership Player can only be paid a maximum upfront/ base payment of $20,000 and match payments of $500 per match. If the player was drafted from a SANFL Club prior to his AFL listing, there will also be a transfer fee payable to the SANFL Club in the sum of $25,000, as is the case if the player were to play for any other SANFL Club.
The AFC and PAFC contracted supplementary list will include:

A maximum Contracted Supplementary List of 10 players (including NGA and father son players in their 19th year, such players in their 18th year would be excluded).
A contracted supplementary list player is protected and cannot transfer without consent of AFC or PAFC. Only supplementary list players can be paid a base or upfront payment. Contract period is limited to 12 months (or one season).
Any player otherwise eligible for the supplementary list can be registered to play on permit from their community club with AFC or PAFC. There is no limit on the number of permitted players.
The changes to the list regulations will provide developmental opportunities at the AFC and PAFC for South Australian Next Generation and Father Son eligible players and other aspirational players who are lacking opportunity at SANFL League level or who are not a part of the SANFL competition. It also allows for listing of interstate players that the AFL clubs have an interest in working with and whom they believe may develop into players who could be listed on their AFL lists.

The changes will ultimately increase the pool of SANFL League quality players and maximise the resource of AFC and PAFC for South Australian talent development.

It has also been agreed by the PAFC and the SA Football Commission that the PAFC will no longer field a team in the SANFL Reserves competition. This results in an eight team Reserves competition for season 2019.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby oldfella » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:44 pm

I must congratulate the SANFL on this action.

Only question i have is what happens to players listed below when they exceed the specified age limit

Interstate players 18 to 21 can only be listed for 2 years

Next Generation Academy (NGA) and Father Son temp listed for 18th and 19th year of age

A maximum of four players from interstate that have attained the age of 18 on January 1st in the year in which they are first included on the AFL club supplementary list (turning 19) but who have not attained the age of 21 on January 1st , each of which can be listed for a maximum of two seasons.

AFL approved Next Generation Academy (NGA) and Father Son players can be temporarily permitted during their 18th and 19thyears (the years in which they are eligible for drafting with concessions) if nominated by the AFL club they are aligned to. It should be noted that this is subject to the player electing and agreeing to being nominated by AFC and PAFC for temporary permit.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Rising Power » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:10 am

oldfella wrote:I must congratulate the SANFL on this action.

Only question i have is what happens to players listed below when they exceed the specified age limit

Interstate players 18 to 21 can only be listed for 2 years

Next Generation Academy (NGA) and Father Son temp listed for 18th and 19th year of age



Re NGA & FS, if they don't make a SANFL list then I'd suggest they can be signed up as per the first dot point.

Need clarification on at what point does someone recruited from interstate no longer be considered an interstate player. They live here for 2 years, contract expires but don't move back home for whatever reason. So they reside in SA and if unable to make a SANFL list effectively become eligible for the first dot point but still can't be re-signed. lol if that is the case.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:56 am

In addition, the Leadership Player can only be paid a maximum upfront/ base payment of $20,000 and match payments of $500 per match.

Wonder if Allmond will try and get out of another contract? :lol:
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