The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Big Phil » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:28 pm

Dutchy wrote:What restrictions do Port have in the SANFL that they wouldn't have in the VFL?

Port have had their injury issues this year which has reduced their output in some games, however compare the quality of the top ups Adelaide have compared to Port, its like chalk and cheese and no doubt a big difference in their performances.

I fail to see how playing in the best 2nd tier comp restricts their development, how is playing in a weaker league going to improve things???


Exactly.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:39 pm

AFL aligned VFL clubs have a salary cap of $110k for "top up" players, SANFL teams can pay a $200 match fee?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby heater31 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:58 pm

Armchair expert wrote:AFL aligned VFL clubs have a salary cap of $110k for "top up" players, SANFL teams can pay a $200 match fee?
$200 is the base payment for league match fees...
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:07 pm

heater31 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:AFL aligned VFL clubs have a salary cap of $110k for "top up" players, SANFL teams can pay a $200 match fee?
$200 is the base payment for league match fees...


So what is the cap then?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby ferret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:43 am

Kock forgot to mention what advantages power have. Port can play NGA listed players from other SANFL clubs in their magpies team during the year. Last year the power took Josh Burgoyne from the Eagles U18s and played him for four games in the magpies, now they have taken Nathan Barkla from the Eagles U18s and are playing him in the magpies tomorrow. No respect for SANFL clubs. They get a preview of what they might be drafting.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:49 am

ferret wrote:Kock forgot to mention what advantages power have. Port can play NGA listed players from other SANFL clubs in their magpies team during the year. Last year the power took Josh Burgoyne from the Eagles U18s and played him for four games in the magpies, now they have taken Nathan Barkla from the Eagles U18s and are playing him in the magpies tomorrow. No respect for SANFL clubs. They get a preview of what they might be drafting.


Sorry, from a player development perspective that's common sense. Who cares about 18s flags it's about developing future AFL and SANFL league footballers.

To me if either Adelaide or Port want to give a four week opportunity to a SANFL player who is yet to make his league debut that can only be a good thing for that players development, draft chances and when they return to their SANFL club, that club themselves.

I'd rather that than stacking their team with 2-3 de-listed AFL blokes.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:53 am

Dutchy wrote:What restrictions do Port have in the SANFL that they wouldn't have in the VFL?

Port have had their injury issues this year which has reduced their output in some games, however compare the quality of the top ups Adelaide have compared to Port, its like chalk and cheese and no doubt a big difference in their performances.

I fail to see how playing in the best 2nd tier comp restricts their development, how is playing in a weaker league going to improve things???



As far as I’m aware vfl doesn’t restrict amount of afl players that can play each game.


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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby ferret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:43 pm

am Bays wrote:
ferret wrote:Kock forgot to mention what advantages power have. Port can play NGA listed players from other SANFL clubs in their magpies team during the year. Last year the power took Josh Burgoyne from the Eagles U18s and played him for four games in the magpies, now they have taken Nathan Barkla from the Eagles U18s and are playing him in the magpies tomorrow. No respect for SANFL clubs. They get a preview of what they might be drafting.


Sorry, from a player development perspective that's common sense. Who cares about 18s flags it's about developing future AFL and SANFL league footballers.

To me if either Adelaide or Port want to give a four week opportunity to a SANFL player who is yet to make his league debut that can only be a good thing for that players development, draft chances and when they return to their SANFL club, that club themselves.

I'd rather that than stacking their team with 2-3 de-listed AFL blokes.


Totally disagree with you, it's basically telling clubs to get stuffed and we'll do what we want to with your players. Barkla doesn't belong to magpies or power, he hasn't been drafted by them. Why should NGAs be treated differently to others that are drafted in the national draft. They should be left to develop like other draftees, if they are good enough they will make it. Nathan was always going to play Australian Rules so he doesn't need an advantage. James Borlase was also ridiculously considered a NGA. What a joke NGA's are. If the AFL wants to equalise the competition, father/son selections should also be dispensed with.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby DOC » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:57 pm

am Bays wrote:
ferret wrote:Kock forgot to mention what advantages power have. Port can play NGA listed players from other SANFL clubs in their magpies team during the year. Last year the power took Josh Burgoyne from the Eagles U18s and played him for four games in the magpies, now they have taken Nathan Barkla from the Eagles U18s and are playing him in the magpies tomorrow. No respect for SANFL clubs. They get a preview of what they might be drafting.


Sorry, from a player development perspective that's common sense. Who cares about 18s flags it's about developing future AFL and SANFL league footballers.

To me if either Adelaide or Port want to give a four week opportunity to a SANFL player who is yet to make his league debut that can only be a good thing for that players development, draft chances and when they return to their SANFL club, that club themselves.

I'd rather that than stacking their team with 2-3 de-listed AFL blokes.


If it's it's all about player development for the AFL why did you post after Durdin and Turner went to the AFL "The AFL and it's mid season draft suck dicks"?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:14 pm

DOC wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Sorry, from a player development perspective that's common sense. Who cares about 18s flags it's about developing future AFL and SANFL league footballers.

To me if either Adelaide or Port want to give a four week opportunity to a SANFL player who is yet to make his league debut that can only be a good thing for that players development, draft chances and when they return to their SANFL club, that club themselves.

I'd rather that than stacking their team with 2-3 de-listed AFL blokes.


If it's it's all about player development for the AFL why did you post after Durdin and Turner went to the AFL "The AFL and it's mid season draft suck dicks"?


Comprehension not your strong point??
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby DOC » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:15 pm

Not sure.

I looked up the use of double question marks and it said the use of multiple question marks is an attempt to place emphasis on a reply when there is no substance to it.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:34 pm

DOC wrote:Not sure.

I looked up the use of double question marks and it said the use of multiple question marks is an attempt to place emphasis on a reply when there is no substance to it.


Would’ve been easier for you to type, “I got nothing”
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Mic » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:02 pm

Did Koch say what his problem with the SANFL's conditions are? What does he actually want changed?

Power don't pay anything, unlike the Crows. Apart from the Eagles, they have made the GFs more than any other team since their inception in 2014. Baffling.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby DOC » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:14 pm

am Bays wrote:
DOC wrote:Not sure.

I looked up the use of double question marks and it said the use of multiple question marks is an attempt to place emphasis on a reply when there is no substance to it.


Would’ve been easier for you to type, “I got nothing”


???
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:18 pm

DOC wrote:
am Bays wrote:
DOC wrote:Not sure.

I looked up the use of double question marks and it said the use of multiple question marks is an attempt to place emphasis on a reply when there is no substance to it.


Would’ve been easier for you to type, “I got nothing”


???


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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:27 pm

Did somebody say KFC?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby ferret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:36 am

Mic wrote:Did Koch say what his problem with the SANFL's conditions are? What does he actually want changed?

Power don't pay anything, unlike the Crows. Apart from the Eagles, they have made the GFs more than any other team since their inception in 2014. Baffling.


Among other things he wants better quality top up players, no limit on AFL listed players in SANFL finals.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Aerie » Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:03 pm

The Crows will have 13 AFL listed players qualify for finals:

Borlase, Davis, McAsey, Nankervis, Newchurch, Pedlar, Strachan, Taylor, Worrell, Frampton, Cook, Turner and Gollant*.

*Gollant could still not qualify if he played the final 2 games in the AFL side, but that looks unlikely.
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