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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:01 am
by PatowalongaPirate
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:02 am
by mots02
Appropriate ^

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:03 am
by Pseudo
400 pages on and Our League is still polluted with garbage.

The time will come when they are gone. Maintain the rage.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:15 am
by GMcG
DOC wrote:Is that you centurian?

you bet your sweet bippy!

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:05 pm
by johntheclaret
GMcG wrote:Eric is dead, I had to chop him up into separate words, to get him in to Adelaide Oval in 2016. :(

I remember seeing it on the TV. In SANFL the AFL No.
;)

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:40 pm
by UK Fan
Koch wants 3 teams if afl reserves league gets set up.

Seriously.

Just Move crows and maggies on.

as much as wed love to smash a 3rd string port maggies in the sanfl.

How about ya just bugger off.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:57 am
by UK Fan

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:00 pm
by GMcG
UK Fan wrote:http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/michelangelo-rucci/makeshift-adelaide-crows-reserves-team-in-sanfl-has-devalued-the-state-league/news-story/d83e333076187d3220ac8f6f5c2bb5ed

Can you download the whole story on here please UK.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:07 pm
by Gozu
Brian Lara 400*

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:34 pm
by DOC
Makeshift Adelaide Crows reserves team in SANFL has devalued the State league
Michelangelo Rucci, Sports Editor At Large, The Advertiser
April 5, 2018 2:00pm
Subscriber only
SO much of the SANFL-AFL reserves debate is built on hypocrisy.

“The SANFL is the best State league.” But on Saturday the measure of the competition was downgraded by a Crows SANFL team reliant on non-league standard players called from community football to make up the numbers while Adelaide deals with a heavy injury list.

For those not aware, Adelaide — unlike the traditional SANFL clubs — does not have a reserves or under-age team. It is a “fill-in” team in the State league.

“There is no reason for a national AFL reserves competition.” But on Saturday the Crows — and its AFL colleague in the SANFL, Port Adelaide — gained further reason to become interested in how a national reserves league would operate.

Bigger lists. Greater access to talent that would be drained from the SANFL ranks. Sounder development programs — and results.

“No-one,” it is said by the SANFL purists, “wants the Crows or Power reserves to win the SANFL premiership.” So is it a genuine 10-team competition then?

The SA Football Commission today needs to deal with this hypocrisy to ensure it delays the inevitable progress of a national AFL reserves competition. And the commission need only look west — to the WAFL where West Coast and Fremantle have “alliance” teams in the State league — to start a major rethink on how to structure the SANFL competition with the Crows and Power.

In the west, there is teenager Jason Carter wanting to follow a dream to the AFL. The 18-year-old was identified by WAFL club Claremont in the Tigers’ Kimberley recruiting zone.

AFL club Fremantle — like Port Adelaide — has an academy for indigenous talent and can — unlike the Power — earmark Aboriginal footballers from the “Next Generation Academy” for a priority pick in the AFL national draft.


Crows player Harrison Dear tries to extract the footy from Port Adelaide’s Jimmy Toumpas at Alberton Oval on Saturday. Picture: Tom Huntley
Fremantle has successfully petitioned the WA Football Commission to advance the consequences of this draft strategy by having Carter transferred from Claremont to the Dockers’ Peel Thunder WAFL unit. Claremont was handed no compensation for having Carter taken from the Tigers’ den to fast-track his development in the Fremantle program.

It is no surprise that Claremont took issue with the WAFC decision. Club president Grant Povey reacted saying: “We hope the decision doesn’t compromise the integrity of the West Australian football pathway.”

The WAFC noted Carter’s pathway to fulfilling his dream to be an AFL player was more relevant than Claremont hanging on to the teenager for just a year.

How would the same script play out in Adelaide? Would the SA Football Commission allow a talented teenager to advance his entry to an AFL program at Alberton or West Lakes or hold the lad to his SANFL club?

The Crows’ line-up in the SANFL Showdown at Alberton on Saturday highlighted the mistake made in not demanding — as Sturt recommended — the Adelaide Football Club have a full investment in the State league with league, reserves and academy teams.

A weak Crows SANFL team devalues the State league.

And it brings on the AFL national reserves competition.

michelangelo.rucci@news.com.au

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:36 pm
by oldfella
typical report writing from the advertiser junior sports reporter who by now must rate well behind the local garden reporter at the advertiser

its all about damage to the afl team and player but basically nothing about the damage the two teams are doing to the sanfl competition.

Its a bleat about the Crows SANFL team reliant on non-league standard players called from community football to make up the numbers while Adelaide deals with a heavy injury list. Bad Luck they agreed to the terms and so did the Power.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:36 pm
by Dogwatcher
I actually struggled to understand his point.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:50 pm
by MW
Dogwatcher wrote:I actually struggled to understand his point.


Crows are bad mkay...

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:43 pm
by bennymacca
Dogwatcher wrote:I actually struggled to understand his point.


i think he is trying to draw the distinction between how port top up their league team compared with the crows.

dont really see how it benefits the comp that the crows can only top up with amateurs but port can have league standard players?

im not arguing for a crows development team but just making the comparison

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:45 pm
by goddy11
How could the SANFL allow some of our players to play for a NAB AFL ACADEMY side in a game against Nth Melbourne's VFL side.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:51 pm
by therisingblues
UK Fan wrote:Koch wants 3 teams if afl reserves league gets set up.

Seriously.

Just Move crows and maggies on.

as much as wed love to smash a 3rd string port maggies in the sanfl.

How about ya just bugger off.

The Magpies would not be third string if they were no longer a power dump.
Ironically, the Magpies were probably moving into an era of dominance when the power outmuscled them and told most of the true magpies side to bugger off to make way for their AFL trainees. There's no way to prove that point, but if the Magpies were left to their own devices they'd again be harvesting the best of their country and city zones, and would eventually rebuild into a premiership threat.
It needs to be remembered that the Magpies had a membership ranked about 3rd or 4th in sanfl clubs before they were forced into a reserves unit.
Someone should ask those members what they'd prefer happen before they wear the power's footprint and be ground into history's dust.
Why do I give a shit? Am I not a Sturt supporter and sworn enemy of the black and white wherever it may dwell?
Because this is not influenced by bias, as much as I hate the blighters, a stand alone magpies side is a healthy thing for the sanfl.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:58 pm
by amber_fluid
therisingblues wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Koch wants 3 teams if afl reserves league gets set up.

Seriously.

Just Move crows and maggies on.

as much as wed love to smash a 3rd string port maggies in the sanfl.

How about ya just bugger off.

The Magpies would not be third string if they were no longer a power dump.
Ironically, the Magpies were probably moving into an era of dominance when the power outmuscled them and told most of the true magpies side to bugger off to make way for their AFL trainees. There's no way to prove that point, but if the Magpies were left to their own devices they'd again be harvesting the best of their country and city zones, and would eventually rebuild into a premiership threat.
It needs to be remembered that the Magpies had a membership ranked about 3rd or 4th in sanfl clubs before they were forced into a reserves unit.
Someone should ask those members what they'd prefer happen before they wear the power's footprint and be ground into history's dust.
Why do I give a shit? Am I not a Sturt supporter and sworn enemy of the black and white wherever it may dwell?
Because this is not influenced by bias, as much as I hate the blighters, a stand alone magpies side is a healthy thing for the sanfl.


You make a lot of sense for a Sturt supporter.
Maybe it’s the Carlton influence ;)

Piss the Power off and reinstate the Magpies and their original zones.
The Magpies will eventually be a force again.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:03 pm
by therisingblues
Sturt and Carlton is the left and right eye of the same being Amber. ;)

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:07 pm
by amber_fluid
therisingblues wrote:Sturt and Carlton is the left and right eye of the same being Amber. ;)


That explains why I’m always cockeyed. :lol:

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:09 pm
by Grenville
bennymacca wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:I actually struggled to understand his point.


i think he is trying to draw the distinction between how port top up their league team compared with the crows.

dont really see how it benefits the comp that the crows can only top up with amateurs but port can have league standard players?

im not arguing for a crows development team but just making the comparison


Port were the smart ones in the ressies debate, they let the Camry Cows do all the dirty work and cop the flak then swooped in and got what the Cows wanted plus more with comparatively little fanfare.