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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:13 pm
by amber_fluid
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
cennals05 wrote:North playing Port before the Carlton game on Sat 2nd May. I wonder how the double headers will work for the SANFL supporters that want to go to the game.

Is there a particular reason Port have chosen the Carlton game to celebrate 150 years?


They gotta fill the stadium some how mate.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:49 pm
by Dutchy
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
MW wrote:South arent forced to do it just as GC and Saints arent forced to go to China and give up a home game. $ talks.


Do you know for sure they are not forced to do it?

You would think as a minimum club members would get free entry to AO.


How can they be forced?
(No I don't know if they are or not)


They are given the draw and just told it is not changing, Id imagine the clubs don't have a lot of Power on where/when/how away games are played

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:52 pm
by PanthersFan
A few thoughts on the curtain raiser topic...

1. I feel I should be entitled to enter on my SAFC membership which includes away games. I normally attend the South vs crows and port games because it brings out extra competitiveness in me and I enjoy that.
2. A run on Adelaide Oval is never a bad thing for the team. Practice for finals (hopefully).
3. It does however stink of AFL interference. Is this happening before or after the mid season draft? If it’s before it would be easy scouting for AFL teams. If it’s after, no big deal.
4. I don’t think the location should impact the result. The crows will either have a stacked team impossible to beat anywhere or a team full of top ups which should be easy money for South. Although on occasion the crows do have an evenly balanced team but I don’t think this happens too often for some reason.
5. I sure hope this was an offer tabled to South and that we were free to accept or decline the invitation and conditions.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:01 pm
by Booney
I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:07 pm
by Sheik Yerbouti
LMA wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Hazydog wrote:You bloody beauty!! SANFL curtain raisers to AFL games back in season 2020.

Yep. North v Power Reserves before Carlton v Power. Yipee.
At least the Powers crowd figure will be higher than usual for the day.


You saying alot of North fans are Power supporters?


There are a few, a lot of Chook supporters are Carlton fans though, reckon there will be a good rock up from our mob. I for one are looking forward to it ( even being a Brissy member)

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:31 pm
by LMA
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....


Yes. Most clubs would have a state based scout, my uncle was one for Freo when they first entered.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:00 pm
by goddy11
PanthersFan wrote:A few thoughts on the curtain raiser topic...

1. I feel I should be entitled to enter on my SAFC membership which includes away games. I normally attend the South vs crows and port games because it brings out extra competitiveness in me and I enjoy that.
2. A run on Adelaide Oval is never a bad thing for the team. Practice for finals (hopefully).
3. It does however stink of AFL interference. Is this happening before or after the mid season draft? If it’s before it would be easy scouting for AFL teams. If it’s after, no big deal.
4. I don’t think the location should impact the result. The crows will either have a stacked team impossible to beat anywhere or a team full of top ups which should be easy money for South. Although on occasion the crows do have an evenly balanced team but I don’t think this happens too often for some reason.
5. I sure hope this was an offer tabled to South and that we were free to accept or decline the invitation and conditions.


In todays Advertiser
"It is understood Adelaide also is in line to play a SANFL match before one of the Crows’ AFL games next season.
South Adelaide is expected to be Adelaide’s opponent, with the club willing to sacrifice one of its home games at Noarlunga to play in front of a big crowd at Adelaide Oval."

I wonder why SA would be willing to give up a home game to play there. It makes no sense unless there is a financial inducement and if yes is it the SANFL who pay it.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:18 pm
by Brett
So they only alluded to 1 curtain raiser game ? I will wait to read it Monday. It does look like the SANFL may have woken up as to when play the bigger games in the early parts of the year from what I hear.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:44 pm
by amber_fluid
LMA wrote:
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....


Yes. Most clubs would have a state based scout, my uncle was one for Freo when they first entered.


He wasn’t part of the Groom/McLeod trade was he?

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:05 pm
by LMA
amber_fluid wrote:
LMA wrote:
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....


Yes. Most clubs would have a state based scout, my uncle was one for Freo when they first entered.


He wasn’t part of the Groom/McLeod trade was he?


Quite possible, will have to ask my dad at Christmas.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:06 pm
by whufc
LMA wrote:
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....


Yes. Most clubs would have a state based scout, my uncle was one for Freo when they first entered.


Yeah it was well know Grant Coffee is a West Coast Eagles South Australian scout.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:30 pm
by PanthersFan
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....

I would agree that’s a big possibility considering I have a shift work job.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:34 pm
by PanthersFan
LMA wrote:
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....


Yes. Most clubs would have a state based scout, my uncle was one for Freo when they first entered.

Well then I suppose I’m for it if:
1. South agreed to it (which reports say yes)
2. I can get in to the game with my SAFC membership. I would be more than willing to have a security guard escort me around the ground and ensure I leave before the AFL game starts.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:16 pm
by LMA
PanthersFan wrote:
LMA wrote:
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....


Yes. Most clubs would have a state based scout, my uncle was one for Freo when they first entered.

Well then I suppose I’m for it if:
1. South agreed to it (which reports say yes)
2. I can get in to the game with my SAFC membership. I would be more than willing to have a security guard escort me around the ground and ensure I leave before the AFL game starts.


The players will relish the opportunity but the supporters may be out of pocket. Can't see them offering discounts.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:31 pm
by Spargo
LMA wrote:
PanthersFan wrote:
LMA wrote:
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....


Yes. Most clubs would have a state based scout, my uncle was one for Freo when they first entered.

Well then I suppose I’m for it if:
1. South agreed to it (which reports say yes)
2. I can get in to the game with my SAFC membership. I would be more than willing to have a security guard escort me around the ground and ensure I leave before the AFL game starts.


The players will relish the opportunity but the supporters may be out of pocket. Can't see them offering discounts.

Sorry, if you’ve forked out for a SAFC season ticket then that should get you in to an AFL curtain raiser if South are playing.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:02 pm
by topshelf
Could be a good thing for the SANFL clubs, as long as the members are allowed free entry and the clubs get some kind of compensation. An extra game on Adelaide Oval could be good especially if clubs are losing money hosting the crows. The port thing is hopefully a one off, going to Alberton is one of the away games i always look forward to.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:23 pm
by Dutchy
Why not play the SANFL game after the AFL game?

Solves a lot of issues and you may get a bigger crowd hang around rather than turn up 3 hours before

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:49 am
by StrayDog
goddy11 wrote:
In todays Advertiser
"It is understood Adelaide also is in line to play a SANFL match before one of the Crows’ AFL games next season.
South Adelaide is expected to be Adelaide’s opponent, with the club willing to sacrifice one of its home games at Noarlunga to play in front of a big crowd at Adelaide Oval."

I wonder why SA would be willing to give up a home game to play there. It makes no sense unless there is a financial inducement and if yes is it the SANFL who pay it.

Playing "in front of a big crowd" and "players relishing the opportunity" were among the pitches spruiked when these things were in vogue years ago. The alleged net 'benefits' to both supporters and clubs were shown to be, essentially, bollocks, which was why they died a death at the time and only mourned by a handful of the more severe cranio-rectal cases.

For starters, the majority of the crowd didn't turn up until towards the start of the AFL game, attendance even more sparse if the AFL game started some time after the SANFL match. Secondly, those that were there for the AFL game had varying (putting it nicely) interest in what was going on the field compared with a more focussed home crowd at a smaller stadium.

Thirdly, there was the annoyance of the exponentially increasing flow of crocheted blanket, thermos carrying fresh arrivals to the stadium setting up to watch 'their' main game at critical times towards the later stages of the SANFL game - as opposed to SANFL supporters that had been intrinsically following the spectacle before them.

I put it to the readership on here that, even in the modern "Sanfull", these 'benefits' remain a furphy in the main even given one of the sides is associated with the AFL, and the pure SANFL contingent notably lower these days. Don't be surprised to hear it flogged from Salesman Jake and co in coming times, though. Much easier to slip things in when those left standing are already grabbing their ankles with straight knees.

Financial incentive for the SANFL clubs is, of course, a very different matter - especially in the era or AFL reserves and occasional three digit attendances. I'd suggest this (well, derr!) would be the true reason any SANFL clubs might be inherently interested.



Dutchy wrote:Why not play the SANFL game after the AFL game?

Solves a lot of issues and you may get a bigger crowd hang around rather than turn up 3 hours before

See above.

Even if those AFL supporters that do hang around only do so for a quarter or so, they're there for the game and enjoying it (or otherwise) for what it is.

If they want to promote the SANFL to the AFL supporters, do it while they're actually at the stadium and in footy mode. An in-store product promotion, if you will - even if only one of the clubs involved is actually SANFL.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:56 pm
by daysofourlives
LMA wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
LMA wrote:
Booney wrote:I'd say AFL scouts watch more of South and all SANFL clubs than you do, not just the games at Adelaide Oval....


Yes. Most clubs would have a state based scout, my uncle was one for Freo when they first entered.


He wasn’t part of the Groom/McLeod trade was he?


Quite possible, will have to ask my dad at Christmas.

Mate, save your breath, iv e seen what you write on here, its a given a relation of yours thought this was a good trade

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:35 pm
by DOC
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Nice one Centurion!