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SANFL MRP News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:02 pm
by Big Phil
Adam Grocke has been referred direct to the tribunal for the rough conduct charge on Brad Symes...

Looks like Grocke only has 4 games on his record so unless he cops 12 games, will not be looking at de-registration...

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2433/

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:09 pm
by Ted E Bear
he should get 6 for that cowardly act

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:25 pm
by SDK
He should be out for as long as Symes is out .... which could be for life !

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:46 pm
by areaman
The length of any ban is all going to hinge on what they deem his intentions were. Was it reckless or intentional. I dare say only Adam truly knows what he was trying to do in that contest.

Good to hear that Symes isn't badly injured.

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:59 pm
by CENTURION
he lined him up, intentional.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:08 pm
by southee
10 -12 weeks IMO

Eyes were were not on the ball..... Just on Symes.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:35 pm
by Grahaml
If he gets less than 8 I'd feel a miscarriage. If that isn't intentional then I don't know what "in play" incidents you'd ever call intentional. All the noise about protecting players, looking after head injuries all means nothing if he doesn't get 2 months. I can even see it being more but that life ban line now adds in a complication so I doubt they'll go beyond 10 without the thought of retiring a bloke.

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:39 pm
by hottie
I didnt see the incident,they talked about it on 5aa for a couple of minutes and what i hate when one or both of the radio host will say the offender geez he is a great bloke, this is out of character for him,he isnt a dirty player.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:44 pm
by southee
hottie wrote:I didnt see the incident,they talked about it on 5aa for a couple of minutes and what i hate when one or both of the radio host will say the offender geez he is a great bloke, this is out of character for him,he isnt a dirty player.


Yeah , real top bloke after he hit him he did not even at least go up to Symes to see if he was OK.

Showed absolutely no remorse after the incident.

Just stood there like a stunned mullet !!!

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:50 pm
by bulldogproud2
hottie wrote:I didnt see the incident,they talked about it on 5aa for a couple of minutes and what i hate when one or both of the radio host will say the offender geez he is a great bloke, this is out of character for him,he isnt a dirty player.


Not sure how out of character it was for Grocke. It was the seventh time he has been reported in the last five years.

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:10 pm
by Bounce of the ball
Reportable yes but anyone would think he stood there and king hit him.

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:17 pm
by smac
Yeah, all he did was take a run up and blind side him!

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:39 pm
by Big Phil
Bounce of the ball wrote:Reportable yes but anyone would think he stood there and king hit him.

So, if that is your thought on the incident, how many games do you think he should get, Bounce of the Ball?

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:49 pm
by Wedgie
Bounce of the ball wrote:Reportable yes but anyone would think he stood there and king hit him.

Was worse than a king hit IMHO as had the momentum of a run up and his body behind it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:52 pm
by whufc
Wedgie wrote:
Bounce of the ball wrote:Reportable yes but anyone would think he stood there and king hit him.

Was worse than a king hit IMHO as had the momentum of a run up and his body behind it.


Yep and an elbow is arguably more dangerous than a clenched fist.

Also generally if your king hit your feet are generally planted on the ground not in mid air

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:57 pm
by Bounce of the ball
Wedgie wrote:
Bounce of the ball wrote:Reportable yes but anyone would think he stood there and king hit him.

Was worse than a king hit IMHO as had the momentum of a run up and his body behind it.


The same distance as Symes had to run and hardly a run up. Reckless yes but to no way near as severe as a king hit.

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:59 pm
by Bounce of the ball
Was it Symes that collected Ainger ?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:00 pm
by whufc
Bounce of the ball wrote:Was it Symes that collected Ainger ?


No buy Symes was the first bloke to check if Aingers was ok

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:01 pm
by Grahaml
Bounce of the ball wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Bounce of the ball wrote:Reportable yes but anyone would think he stood there and king hit him.

Was worse than a king hit IMHO as had the momentum of a run up and his body behind it.


The same distance as Symes had to run and hardly a run up. Reckless yes but to no way near as severe as a king hit.


So once you run a certain distance anything people do to you is less severe? Odd opinion. As is the opinion it was less severe than a king hit. Standing and punching someone with a clenched fist is obviously pretty poor, but likely to do more damage to your own hand or wrist without proper training. Hit someone with an elbow though and you'll do more damage at less risk. The only thing in Grocke's favour really is the fact it wasn't 100 metres behind play.

Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:01 pm
by Big Phil
Bounce of the ball wrote:Was it Symes that collected Ainger ?

No, it wasn't, Bounce of the ball, it was Tom Collier that bumped into Ainger...

So, what are your thoughts on how many games Grocke should get?