Reallocation of boundaries

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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby Hazbeen » Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:07 pm

beef wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Saw South announce yesterday they have claimed some of Glenelg's zone around Hallet Cove as part of the 5 year review, anyone seen any announcement about other changes to zones?

Think Centrals are getting some of eagles zone in Adelaide Plains league. They'll stuff it up and want more area again in a couple years


Centrals already have Angle Vale in APFL as part of their metro zone. The have only picked up Virginia (APFL) and Eudunda Robertstown, aka Southern Saints (NEFL) to their country zone. The rest of APFL and NEFL remain with WWT.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby Dutchy » Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:25 pm

https://www.safc.com.au/blog/sanfl-boundary-changes

Apart from the above I havent seen anything else formally announced?
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby Ronnie » Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:52 pm

Something finally up on the SANFL site. The big change appears to be Sturt losing their country zone of Murray Bridge and surrounds. Apparently Sturt and South have seen the biggest rise in participants recently, although it's not stated what South have lost. Presumably Mount Barker is meant to offset Sturt's losses.
With the tracking the league is able to do now of numbers and participants, it's to be hoped all clubs have a more or less equal share of the pie, although each club has their own set of challenges and advantages. There shouldn't be winners and losers out of this.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby Dutchy » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:34 pm

SANFL has finalised changes to its clubs’ recruiting zones after conducting its first extensive boundaries review since 2017.

Ratified by the SA Football Commission, the 2022 Boundaries Review was undertaken to ensure an equitable realignment of club zones will meet population and participation changes in metropolitan and country areas.

The review of SANFL boundaries is conducted every five years, coinciding with the release of the Australian Bureau of Statistics’ census of population and housing data.

A Boundaries Commission – consisting of five members which was supported by university staff from the Hugo Centre for Population and Migration – also took into account current male and female player and Auskick participation and relative locational advantage.

As a result, a significant adjustment in the 2022 Boundaries Review was the realignment of the River Murray Football League from its traditional Sturt country zone to West Adelaide.

River Murray clubs Imperials, Ramblers, Mypolonga, Mannum, Jervois, Meningie (now Coorong Cats) and Tailem Bend will now be aligned to the Bloods.

”Since the 2017 Boundaries review, Sturt and South Adelaide’s regions saw the biggest growth in participation anywhere in the State,” SANFL Executive General Manager of Football Matt Duldig said.

”Sturt’s heartland Adelaide Hills country recruiting zone includes the rapidly-expanding Mount Barker and its surrounds, which is projected to be one of the fastest-growing regional cities in Australia.

”In contrast, West Adelaide’s regional area is faced with declining junior participation rates as evidenced by the recent dissolution of the Mallee Football League.”

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'Since the 2017 Boundaries review, Sturt and South Adelaide's regions saw the biggest growth in participation anywhere in the State.''

SANFL Executive General Manager Football Matt Duldig
Central District also received noteworthy gains, chiefly to its metropolitan and, near country, recruiting zones.

The Bulldogs received North Pines, Virginia and Eudunda Robertstown Football Clubs from Woodville-West Torrens, together with Mawson Lakes and Brahma Lodge from North Adelaide.

In other movements, the Double Blues conceded the Houghton Football Club to Norwood while gaining the Mitcham Football Club from West while South Adelaide received the Cove Football Club from Glenelg.

Chaired by SA Football Commission Chairman Rob Kerin, the 2022 Boundaries Commission included the following members on its panel.

Luke McCabe, SA Football Commissioner
Neal Matotek, Director of Corporate Services Westminster School and former SANFL General Manager of Commercial
Garry Palasis, solicitor and former Boundaries Commission Chairman
Michelle Wilson, Adelaide University General Manager of Sport
The changes from the 2022 Boundaries Review will take effect immediately, with the next review due in 2027 ahead of the 2028 season.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby Dutchy » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:37 pm

South accurately noted as a massively growing region, however actually increase their footprint? West seem to have done well picking up Murray Bridge.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby Mr Fuller » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:02 am

The specific formula they use to make a decision on the boundaries is only provided at a high level in that statement so no real way to know exactly how they did it.

It would be interesting to see what weighting they put on each of the different criteria.

For example, their statement seems to suggest that their consideration takes into account the current male AND female participants in Auskick participation. I might be old fashioned by I find it ridiculous that the number of females playing football is influencing the boundaries of the SANFL which is predominantly a men’s competition.

The other thing that it doesn’t seem to factor in – at least not explained in the statement how it’s treated – is whether their assessment purely looks at population and ages of individuals and not their cultural background. For example, some of the fastest growing youth areas are those kids from migrant families who have more interest in soccer than football. It is much harder to attract these kids to try football and will take a generation of investment by Clubs. So the number of players don’t come through in the short term.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby am Bays » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:26 am

We've been given the rough end of the pineapple sans lube

Red and black will be happy they've given the airport to us....

50 years of working and developing two - three generations of Hallet Cove kids from the 70s goneski. I expected some of the southern part of Hallett Cove to go along the Eastern side of Lonsdale Highway and potentially South of the Cove Road but all the way up to Perry Barr Drive and Majors Rd???

SANFL are basically saying dont do any hard work developing participation rates in your zone any more as we will use that to benefit the lazy clubs
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby cracka » Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:36 am

Dutchy wrote:South accurately noted as a massively growing region, however actually increase their footprint? West seem to have done well picking up Murray Bridge.

That's been Sturts zone since I was a boy. :shock:
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby goddy11 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:35 am

cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:South accurately noted as a massively growing region, however actually increase their footprint? West seem to have done well picking up Murray Bridge.

That's been Sturts zone since I was a boy. :shock:


The Eagles have been lucky. They left the Wingfield dump in our zone.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:40 am

am Bays wrote:SANFL are basically saying dont do any hard work developing participation rates in your zone any more as we will use that to benefit the lazy clubs

You can't be serious, South have been just as active, if not more so, in junior development as Glenelg have.

The way the Glenelg school comp fell to bits about 8 years ago was embarrassing, not sure that's putting time or effort in
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby am Bays » Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:02 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
am Bays wrote:SANFL are basically saying dont do any hard work developing participation rates in your zone any more as we will use that to benefit the lazy clubs

You can't be serious, South have been just as active, if not more so, in junior development as Glenelg have.

The way the Glenelg school comp fell to bits about 8 years ago was embarrassing, not sure that's putting time or effort in


Which was roughly when I stopped being actively involved with the programs as our kids left primary school. Also coincides when the long time volunteer coordinator stepping down.

Having our DO taken away (shared with Eagles but based at Woodville oval hasn't helped also the rise of the SANFL junior comp in the last four years hasnt helped Saturday morning school footy comps - choose one kids, parents would say

10 years ago the Westies clubs were joining the Glenelg 6-7 comp as they only had two IIRC - happy to have my memory challenged

Our zone wouldn't have shrunk on the Southern border if we had ignored participation.....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:04 pm

am Bays wrote:Our zone wouldn't have shrunk on the Southern border if we had ignored participation.....


Your northern border also expanded once the Magpies left, it's logical your southern border shifts to suit.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby am Bays » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:37 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
am Bays wrote:Our zone wouldn't have shrunk on the Southern border if we had ignored participation.....


Your northern border also expanded once the Magpies left, it's logical your southern border shifts to suit.

That was in the last re-alignment, so that change has been made. And yes our Southern boundary moved then from Lonsdale Creek to Patpa Drive lander Drive Sheidow park in 2014

Our Northern Boundary is now Henley beach Rd, when it used to be North of Grange Rd it the previous zone
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby Aerie » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:55 pm

Good to see they are gradually correcting it from the balls up that was the 2014 redistribution. Eagles getting back more of Henley Beach and Findon and giving up Kilburn, Gepps Cross, Paralowie etc.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby Aerie » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:57 pm

am Bays wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:
am Bays wrote:Our zone wouldn't have shrunk on the Southern border if we had ignored participation.....


Your northern border also expanded once the Magpies left, it's logical your southern border shifts to suit.

That was in the last re-alignment, so that change has been made. And yes our Southern boundary moved then from Lonsdale Creek to Patpa Drive lander Drive Sheidow park in 2014

Our Northern Boundary is now Henley beach Rd, when it used to be North of Grange Rd it the previous zone


Yes after 2014 Glenelg were given all the way to Trimmer Parade and West Adelaide all the way to Grand Junction Road.
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby mots02 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:23 pm

am Bays wrote:We've been given the rough end of the pineapple sans lube

Red and black will be happy they've given the airport to us....

50 years of working and developing two - three generations of Hallet Cove kids from the 70s goneski. I expected some of the southern part of Hallett Cove to go along the Eastern side of Lonsdale Highway and potentially South of the Cove Road but all the way up to Perry Barr Drive and Majors Rd???

SANFL are basically saying dont do any hard work developing participation rates in your zone any more as we will use that to benefit the lazy clubs


You seem angry with South's invasion of Hallet Cove, Cross even?
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

Postby am Bays » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:46 pm

:lol: :lol:

It's a Cross we're going to have to bare

I bet there are people who would like me to go missing from here over it.... 8)
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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