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Must admit I've always been a fan of Roy Lairds, I've heard him speak at several huddles and on the radio occasionally and he speaks very well, intelligently and is always interesting to listen to.

He said something in the paper this morning that really stood out to me:
"But we're not as concerned about the opinion of outside people, it's all about how we respect ourselves within our football club."

This really hit me as a great comment. For a couple of years now Andrew Jarman and a few other coaches/club officials have always been talking about gaining the respect of the rest of the SANFL.

I think Roy Laird has hit the nail on the head and its one of the reason's Central are such a dominant force in the 00s. He and they don't give a rats about what other people think, they're only interested in how they themselves perceive their success. I reckon this is a fantastic attitude and one that has gone passed Jars and a few others over the years. Well said Roy.

'Positive Arrogance' is probably the best description I can think of.
Great players have this mindset eg. Carey,Greg Williams.
Gaining the respect of the competition is necessary for bottom sides (Jarman's quote)
but when you become a powerhouse then Laird's attitude is what keeps you going.

Yes, I agree with this Wedgie. There's an old saying that nobody will respect you unless you respect yourself. Roy Laird's approach reminds me very much of Hawthorn in the 1980s. They didn't look for respect, they earnt it. In other words, they never cared what people were saying about them, they never cared if others didn't like the club, or the jumpers, or the way they played, they just got out there and did it. Laird's philosophy is a good one.

Mr66 wrote:'Positive Arrogance' is probably the best description I can think of.
Great players have this mindset eg. Carey,Greg Williams.

Warwick Capper.

Jars to too worried about playing attractive footy rather then strong accountable finals winning football

I would rarely blow my own trumpet at all, but when I said in both Sportsbeat and "Total SANFL" that Central would win and win well, there were a few doubters..

CK_31 wrote:I would rarely blow my own trumpet at all, but when I said in both Sportsbeat and "Total SANFL" that Central would win and win well, there were a few doubters..

I wasn't doubting you, I was resigned to the result on Friday night.
To tell the truth I didn't even set my DVD recorder of PC to record the game.
Perhaps the Advertiser should actually get some tips from people who attend various training sessions and perhaps have a bit better idea than their journos as to how teams will go.

sydney-dog wrote:Jars to too worried about playing attractive footy rather then strong accountable finals winning football

Well said but we haven't stood up to any pressure testing games for 3 years. Excuses are wearing thin Jars - look at yourself before blaming everyone else!

BPBRB

Jars as a player wasn't the most accountable and his side plays in the same manner

You hear talk that Jars tells his side if they don't entertain him he will go home at half time, maybe he should tell them if they don't play accountable footy he will go home

sydney-dog wrote:BPBRB

Jars as a player wasn't the most accountable and his side plays in the same manner

You hear talk that Jars tells his side if they don't entertain him he will go home at half time, maybe he should tell them if they don't play accountable footy he will go home

Maybe we "supporters" should go home

Crikey, this topic has got off topic already.

Anyway, like I was saying, I was impressed with Roy Lairds words.........

Peter Falconia wrote:

Mr66 wrote:'Positive Arrogance' is probably the best description I can think of.
Great players have this mindset eg. Carey,Greg Williams.

Warwick Capper.

'Unproductive Stupidity' now comes to mind.

Wedgie wrote:Must admit I've always been a fan of Roy Lairds, I've heard him speak at several huddles and on the radio occasionally and he speaks very well, intelligently and is always interesting to listen to.

He said something in the paper this morning that really stood out to me:
"But we're not as concerned about the opinion of outside people, it's all about how we respect ourselves within our football club."

This really hit me as a great comment. For a couple of years now Andrew Jarman and a few other coaches/club officials have always been talking about gaining the respect of the rest of the SANFL.

Excellent point Wedgie. It's like most things in life, once you respect yourself and stand behind the integrity of your work, the respect of others will be a natural side effect. Take journalism for example, if you say "Four Corners", most people think of a well-researched, well-written current affairs program that stands behind its principles and isn't concerned with ratings. Say "Today Tonight" and you think trashy, headline grabbing, ratings whore. Now, I would never call Jars the "Today Tonight" of coaching, but Roy Laird does quietly go about his business, which is bringing premiership cups home.

Positive Arrogance. Confidence, in other words, which is misconstrued as arrogance by negative people.

CENTURION wrote:Positive Arrogance. Confidence, in other words, which is misconstrued as arrogance by negative people.

I wouldn't say that too many people could accuse Laird or any statements made by him as arrogant? He says very litle overall but what he does say always makes a point and he is never over the top. Losing (when Centrals do from time to time) still doesn't change his comments or what he tries to get across. He seems to be a calm and rational thinker and I'm sure behind closed doors that would pretty much be his manner with his players? Hard to comment on that without observing it first hand but I'm sure a few dogs fans could verify that? You would have to be dumb to call it arrogance.

Its funny you posted this Wedgie I was talking with my father thismorning about how good a coach Laird must be.

Tell me a crunch game Centrals have lost in recent years? This year may not have been as good win loss wise but they have achieved their goal of playing in the second semi final. To do this they have had to win the last two matches and have done so handsomely.

Dark horse for the St Kilda job?

CENTURION wrote:Positive Arrogance. Confidence, in other words, which is misconstrued as arrogance by negative people.

Confidence is when you can back it up with action. Arrogance is when you can't.

Mr66 wrote:'Positive Arrogance' is probably the best description I can think of.
Great players have this mindset eg. Carey,Greg Williams.
Gaining the respect of the competition is necessary for bottom sides (Jarman's quote)
but when you become a powerhouse then Laird's attitude is what keeps you going.

I believe Great People have this mindset not just Great Players.....

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Dark horse for the St Kilda job?

In previous seasons, he has expressed his intentions to stay where he is as he doesn't have a desire to go up a level with his coaching. Having said that, I am sure he would need to serve some kind of apprenticeship as an assistant before getting an AFL coaching gig.