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SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:10 pm
by dogbreath
Not that I give a rats toss bag about Central missing out.

But doesn't it seem a tad suspicious that the clubs that had their womens team application rejected were the two clubs (Central & South) that voted against the AFL reserves teams entering the SANFL.
Surely the Northern & Southern suburbs are two huge potential growth areas for a fledgling womens comp.

Payback ?????

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:16 pm
by Eagles2014
dogbreath wrote:Not that I give a rats toss bag about Central missing out.

But doesn't it seem a tad suspicious that the clubs that had their womens team application rejected were the two clubs (Central & South) that voted against the AFL reserves teams entering the SANFL.
Surely the Northern & Southern suburbs are two huge potential growth areas for a fledgling womens comp.

Payback ?????


Conspiracy theory - but maybe on the ball!

You surely need a team out south and north if it is going to work?

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:18 pm
by whufc
Somethings gone on especially considering Centrals already had an established side

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:53 pm
by heater31
whufc wrote:Somethings gone on especially considering Centrals already had an established side

In a separate competition.....


Given clubs are struggling to make ends meet it could be a blessing not having to worry about stretching football department budgets further.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:38 pm
by Wedgie
Even I wouldn't read too much into it, I'm sure there's several reasons before jumping on a conspiracy bandwagon.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:40 pm
by dogbreath
Let's hear what those reasons are then. Why hasn't the SANFL disclosed them ?

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:43 pm
by Wedgie
dogbreath wrote:Let's hear what those reasons are then. Why hasn't the SANFL disclosed them ?

Ask your club. And then maybe get back to us.

Maybe they weren't ready which would be fair enough with the limited time span and will be ready for the comp the year after.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:30 am
by Magellan
It's awful that South and Centrals have been shafted from the SAWFL.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:13 am
by mots02
dogbreath wrote:Let's hear what those reasons are then. Why hasn't the SANFL disclosed them ?


From what I understand it was a tender process, I don't think the SANFL is compelled to publically disclose why they chose one club over another and it would probably be pretty poor form if they chose to.

You could mount an argument that Centrals and South are geographically in a strong position to be considered as critical members of the comp but that maybe wasn't the defining criteria for selection. Equally you could argue that North, Norwood, Glenelg and West have all 4 points of the compass pretty much covered too.

We all love a conspiracy theory but I don't think this is one of them.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:18 am
by MW
You guys will complain about anything

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:25 am
by vics01
Why would they really want be involved. As it is they have reduced salary caps.. Let alone having to find and fund resources which would further distract from the real deal..

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:48 am
by stan
This whole thing still makes no sense to me. There is already a WFL in SA at the moment, the SANFL should be integrating with that rather than starting another one from scratch.



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Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:01 am
by MatteeG
stan wrote:This whole thing still makes no sense to me. There is already a WFL in SA at the moment, the SANFL should be integrating with that rather than starting another one from scratch.



Spot on. And how the frick can we possibly afford a side when we have more pressing issues currently (like actual survival).

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:10 am
by Booney
dogbreath wrote:Not that I give a rats toss bag about Central missing out.


But you thought you'd start a thread to moan about it anyway? Righto.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:28 am
by Magellan
MatteeG wrote:
stan wrote:This whole thing still makes no sense to me. There is already a WFL in SA at the moment, the SANFL should be integrating with that rather than starting another one from scratch.



Spot on. And how the frick can we possibly afford a side when we have more pressing issues currently (like actual survival).

Like others, I doubt there's a conspiracy re: South and Centrals. However, I think MatteeG makes a good point, given the Bays current precarious finances.

Apologies for what might be the bleedin' obvious, but what's this project expected to cost each club all up? I understand the Essayeneffell are putting 10K in for each club, and I assume it costs more than that to run this comp, so does that means the balance is paid out by the individual clubs, or is the AFL coming in to apply more funds?

As MatteeG says, surely the Bays have better things to do with their money than fund this experiment, like staying alive. I can only presume that the Bays wouldn't have put their hand up if it would put them further in the red, and thus there would have to be some financial assistance offered by someone to bankroll their participation and justify their nomination.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:39 pm
by southee
Considering the massive amount of youth unemployment in the North and South you would think the SANFL brains trust would have teams in the regions. (Running a great female youth program for participation)

I'm all for the conspiracy theory - we (and the doggies) got shafted big time.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:34 pm
by Reddeer
southee wrote:Considering the massive amount of youth unemployment in the North and South you would think the SANFL brains trust would have teams in the regions. (Running a great female youth program for participation)

I'm all for the conspiracy theory - we (and the doggies) got shafted big time.

The real conspiracy is why the crows were told to lose the prelim against Sturt!!!!

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:23 pm
by darley16
No conspiracy there Reddeer, instructed to play bruise free football as they didn't want any injuries going into pre-season once their AFL side was done, i say no conspiracy as it was obvious , their intent against South & Centrals when their AFL team was still going and their intent against Sturt were poles apart.

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:04 pm
by Broken Down Hack
Magellan wrote:
MatteeG wrote:
stan wrote:This whole thing still makes no sense to me. There is already a WFL in SA at the moment, the SANFL should be integrating with that rather than starting another one from scratch.



Spot on. And how the frick can we possibly afford a side when we have more pressing issues currently (like actual survival).

Like others, I doubt there's a conspiracy re: South and Centrals. However, I think MatteeG makes a good point, given the Bays current precarious finances.

Apologies for what might be the bleedin' obvious, but what's this project expected to cost each club all up? I understand the Essayeneffell are putting 10K in for each club, and I assume it costs more than that to run this comp, so does that means the balance is paid out by the individual clubs, or is the AFL coming in to apply more funds?

As MatteeG says, surely the Bays have better things to do with their money than fund this experiment, like staying alive. I can only presume that the Bays wouldn't have put their hand up if it would put them further in the red, and thus there would have to be some financial assistance offered by someone to bankroll their participation and justify their nomination.



So each club gets 10k ..... yep that will help ..... just to let people know the women's side at my local club, its end off year running costs were 45k ...... and that was with 9 players drafted to the Crows ...... the standard without those "Quality" players drops a hell off a lot .... so don't get to excited people it will be like watching a good local U/16's game .....

Re: SAWFL - Dogs & Panthers shafted

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:23 pm
by vics01
45K on womans footy?? WTF