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Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:53 pm
by PatowalongaPirate
Maybe Josh Glenn isn't an "out" as he has just avoided a jail term for a drunken assault.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:14 pm
by GMcG
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Maybe Josh Glenn isn't an "out" as he has just avoided a jail term for a drunken assault.

would anyone with any morals take him now?

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:23 pm
by northerner
GMcG wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Maybe Josh Glenn isn't an "out" as he has just avoided a jail term for a drunken assault.

would anyone with any morals take him now?

Rhetorical question surely...

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:52 pm
by Wedgie
Nothing suprises me these days with some clubs.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:16 pm
by UK Fan
GMcG wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Maybe Josh Glenn isn't an "out" as he has just avoided a jail term for a drunken assault.

would anyone with any morals take him now?


Support of a footy club not the worst thing for Josh atm.

I’d prefer he be in a SANFL environment than out in country footy.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:26 pm
by cennals05
Is everyone forgetting about the failed game day test? Not sure he will be able to play football anywhere.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:57 pm
by SimonH
cennals05 wrote:Is everyone forgetting about the failed game day test? Not sure he will be able to play football anywhere.
Under the relevant policy (presuming the SANFL is the same as the AFL in this field) there has to be a hearing before the relevant Tribunal if there is a positive game-day test. They can't just be taken out the back and quietly told, 'don't try to register next year'. Is there any confirmation that this test result occurred?

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:30 pm
by cennals05
SimonH wrote:
cennals05 wrote:Is everyone forgetting about the failed game day test? Not sure he will be able to play football anywhere.
Under the relevant policy (presuming the SANFL is the same as the AFL in this field) there has to be a hearing before the relevant Tribunal if there is a positive game-day test. They can't just be taken out the back and quietly told, 'don't try to register next year'. Is there any confirmation that this test result occurred?

He has been provisionally suspended from what I understand. I work with someone involved with Norwood, I was in the same room as them when they were on the phone to James Fantasia about it. He definitely failed a drug test.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:13 pm
by SimonH
Okay, thanks. There should be a hearing in the off-season then. Worst-case scenario is 2 years (backdated), but I don't know how much discretion there is to impose a lesser penalty.

Totally different of course—like night and day in terms of sanction—if it was not a game-day test (and the illicit drug is a recreational one).

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:30 pm
by northerner
SimonH wrote:Okay, thanks. There should be a hearing in the off-season then. Worst-case scenario is 2 years (backdated), but I don't know how much discretion there is to impose a lesser penalty.

Totally different of course—like night and day in terms of sanction—if it was not a game-day test (and the illicit drug is a recreational one).


Lets hypothetically suggest its a game day test and steroids is detected?

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:42 pm
by JK
northerner wrote:
SimonH wrote:Okay, thanks. There should be a hearing in the off-season then. Worst-case scenario is 2 years (backdated), but I don't know how much discretion there is to impose a lesser penalty.

Totally different of course—like night and day in terms of sanction—if it was not a game-day test (and the illicit drug is a recreational one).


Lets hypothetically suggest its a game day test and steroids is detected?


I’m no expert, but I think it’s a 4 year Max penalty. Other factors involved like how a player pleads, whether the B sample is required etc, I believe has a bearing on the term of penalty.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:09 pm
by daysofourlives
JK wrote:
northerner wrote:
SimonH wrote:Okay, thanks. There should be a hearing in the off-season then. Worst-case scenario is 2 years (backdated), but I don't know how much discretion there is to impose a lesser penalty.

Totally different of course—like night and day in terms of sanction—if it was not a game-day test (and the illicit drug is a recreational one).


Lets hypothetically suggest its a game day test and steroids is detected?


I’m no expert, but I think it’s a 4 year Max penalty. Other factors involved like how a player pleads, whether the B sample is required etc, I believe has a bearing on the term of penalty.


so hypothetically he wont be fleecing any country club for along time then?
One word springs to mind, Karma

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:10 pm
by daysofourlives
GMcG wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
GMcG wrote:
Groucho wrote:I take it you're at the B& F. Who won the Best & Fairest?

T. Schiller by a mile.
Nason gone too.

And pretty sure Butcher is leaving too. Might be a couple more as well

no rumours please, just facts.

How those facts going know all??

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:11 am
by GMcG
you made the statement, you need to produce the facts.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:17 pm
by DOC
Tarak Redigolo, Matthew Rankine, Alex Moyle and Matthew Raitt are outs for South.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:13 pm
by Dutchy
A few issues at South if you believe rumours

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:38 pm
by daysofourlives
GMcG wrote:you made the statement, you need to produce the facts.


Ive told you, not my problem if you dont believe me

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:39 pm
by Wedgie
Dutchy wrote:A few issues at South if you believe rumours

Can't be too bad as Liddle and Cross are staying despite a rumour someone started. ;)

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:42 pm
by southee
Dutchy wrote:A few issues at South if you believe rumours


What’s the rumour then ???

Re: INS and OUTS for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:55 am
by GMcG
daysofourlives wrote:
GMcG wrote:you made the statement, you need to produce the facts.


Ive told you, not my problem if you dont believe me

It's now confirmed, The Butch off to the NT.