2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Brett » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:01 pm

locky801 wrote:A Grand final for the archives. Great game of footy,

40,000 people as well

Great advertisement for the game

Time now to hit the piss ;)


Well said . Im sick of the anti SANFL comp mob. Its a great competition and we should embrace it not run it down .Well done Chooks.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Booney » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:17 pm

North played 1 short all game!
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Brett » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:24 pm

A few wont be at Norwood next year . You wonder how a club can let a player into that poor condition . 1 too many wines maybe ?
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby therisingblues » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:35 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
therisingblues wrote:
purch wrote:The previous >40k was Port v Sturt in 1998 - 44,838


Thanks Purch, I just did a search and found the 39,813, but you beat me to it.
Good to see two big drawing clubs in the Grand Final


The crowd must have been bigger than they expected given the top tier of the southern stand was closed.
It was open last year.

The top tier would hold close to 10,000 wouldn’t it so surprised at the final crowd.
Anyway great crowd, great day, great footy.
Good advertisement for SANFL footy.

I heard someone interviewing some official or whoever before the game on Life FM. They were saying that it is a great day for footy, two great teams etc. and if they can get in excess of 35,000 they will be well pleased.

They were always going to get more than 35,000 to a North v Norwood GF. I think there might be a few people running the show who just don't understand SANFL at all.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Cambridge Clarrie » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:36 pm

Brett wrote:
locky801 wrote:A Grand final for the archives. Great game of footy,

40,000 people as well

Great advertisement for the game

Time now to hit the piss ;)


Well said . Im sick of the anti SANFL comp mob. Its a great competition and we should embrace it not run it down .Well done Chooks.


Good call. Me too. I bet plenty of the are wrapped in their red and white celebrating tonight...
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby FlyingHigh » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:41 pm

Well done North and Norwood for putting the SANFL in the headlines for all the right reasons. A great game, with some great skills and goals by both sides. Congratulations North, whenever they make the finals their play certainly adds a flair to the competition.

It seemed early on it wasn't necessarily North's physical intent that rattled Norwood, more their commitment to stick to their plan of playing bold, skilful footy and not be overawed. How good was Boyd Woodcock's two goals in the first half, first a reasonably regulation snap that plenty of more experienced players don't compose themelves to kick them properly, and second one from the boundary. Connor Rozzee too, what a great kid.
Towards time-on in the third, it seemed there were very few from either side who hadn't made a meaningful contribution, after that though it seemed North continued that type of team effort, whilst Norwood relied on some individual efforts.

69, 73 & 83 are the only other years I can think of with higher scoring GF's
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Eagles2014 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:46 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Booney wrote:Never EVER give the loser the medal. Ever.

Isn't the Jack Oatey Medal for the best player in the Grand Final?

Nothing in the prerequisites that says he has to be from the winning side.

Absolutely HANDS DOWN no doubt that Mitch Grigg was the CLEAR best player on the ground.


I would normally agree with Booney with this comment, absolutely hate the medal being given to player from losing team.

HOWEVER, have to agree with Big Phil, there was no option in this case as Mitch Grigg was far and away the best player on the ground, there is not one player from North I can think of you could have given it too, just a great team performance.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Eagles2014 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:51 pm

Anyone seen the rant posted by James Boyd from Eagles? Wrote an absolute essay whinging about the SANFL, North, 19th man, cheating, etc, with Seb Guilhaus in big trouble for his post last week, would suggest the players show a bit of maturity and let the Club handle it, doing themselves no favours and Boyd has not painted himself in the best light.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Robran » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:05 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Booney wrote:Never EVER give the loser the medal. Ever.

Isn't the Jack Oatey Medal for the best player in the Grand Final?

Nothing in the prerequisites that says he has to be from the winning side.

Absolutely HANDS DOWN no doubt that Mitch Grigg was the CLEAR best player on the ground.

He was outstanding and deserved what he got gun. I was blown away we never went to him at a contested ball stoppage.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Brett » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:17 pm

Probably wtitten from his bedroom or Peter Sheaer. He might best spend his attention trying to get the ball.You wonder who is next club is ? Doubtful.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Dogs64 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:48 pm

Eagles2014 wrote:Anyone seen the rant posted by James Boyd from Eagles? Wrote an absolute essay whinging about the SANFL, North, 19th man, cheating, etc, with Seb Guilhaus in big trouble for his post last week, would suggest the players show a bit of maturity and let the Club handle it, doing themselves no favours and Boyd has not painted himself in the best light.


Personally, thought it was pretty accurate - free speech and all that. (Still glad it happened to Slaven)

We as a playing group don't hide away from the fact we were 47 points up during the game. North have been a great side all year and play an exciting, fast paced brand of football that can score quickly. However, momentum is a funny thing in football. And one that can not be measured.
At 3qtr time it was a 20 point deficit, not 40 odd points and in a final that's nothing! For a team to then start the last quarter with 19 players on the field, have numerous inside 50s, score 1.2 in that time to bring the score back to 2 goals early in the last qtr completely shifted the momentum. We as players, along with the coaching staff in the box, were wondering how they had an extra player free so it effected our teams structure severely. We then decided to drop a loose back to try and stifle the flow as we don't know where this spare is coming from which changed the whole dynamic of the game for that period and beyond. For the Judge to say that the extra player had no impact whatsoever clearly shows they had limited understanding of the situation as the loose player from the back of the square kicked the first behind of the last qtr!!
No impact?? Ok then!!
You can maybe understand 30 secs or even a minute and put it down to a miscommunication at the break but for a football club to be notified that their player named on the bench wasn't there and knowing that was happening and not do anything about it for over 4 minutes is nothing short of disgraceful. Furthermore, for them to make an interchange at the 45 second mark of the final qtr and to not realise then and pull a player immediately from the ground to me seems staggering. It was then 3 minutes after this that a player finally came from the ground. In this time they had scored 8 points.
At the absolute least no matter what the score, them winning by 20 points or 5 points the points in which they scored by having 19 players on the field should be wiped whether it meant they still win the game or not. In this case justice would have been served and their score deducted meaning the result overturned.
Its got nothing to do with next year. No one could care less the sanctions they get for next year. It's the fact that a game of football, hours, weeks, months of dedication and to be defined by an act of cheating and allowed to get away with it is disgraceful and something (they) have to live with!
If both parties in the end were happy for a rematch seems like that outcome is at least honourable, play it during the week and keep the grand final on Sunday. We as a football club were more than happy to put our hands up to do so.
They get an independent one-man tribunal, retired Supreme Court judge Michael David QC in to make the decision and so he comes to the conclusion that the most suitable outcome is to have a rematch, then saying that he doesn't have that option or the right to award that a rematch take place. Isn't that the whole point of getting another body in to make the decision for you? Yet he wasn't allowed to make the decision he deemed fair..
For the AFL to come out and say their governing body would have changed the outcome and overturned the result had this happened in an AFL game is telling you something. I didn't see Lance Armstrong just get a fine and keep his awards. Steve Smith, Dave Warner and Cameron Bancroft didn't just get a fine and were allowed to play the next test match... Guilty of cheating but can still play in a Grand Final the next week?? At the end of the day, cheating is cheating. Intentional or not.
He then goes on to say that the reversal of the result is too savage a penalty?? Did he consider that not reversing the result was equally a savage penalty to the Eagles? If we break that down, the Eagles were the innocent party. The penalty for the Eagles was elimination. North were the guilty party (grossly negligent – at fault). The penalty for North was elimination. Why is it that the penalty for North is too savage, when that is precisely, in effect, the outcome for the Eagles??
How every expert that has played or been involved in the game, greats of our game, people who have been around football or reporting on it for a long time can see exactly what the right and fair outcome is and yet (they) can't absolutely staggers me!
Coming from a players point of view, how our season has been made to come to an end not to mention the club, families, supporters, and wider communities it has and will continue to effect, think everything's fine now and we'll sweep it under the carpet with the grand final this weekend is an absolute travesty in itself. It's something my teammates (brothers) and I will take sometime to get past and something we won't ever forgive or forget with the way it was handled and dealt with.
A rematch at the absolute bare minimum was what should have taken place.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Brendan M » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:53 am

North too good, after all they did dominate the first half of the year. At Woodville in round 5 they played fabulous football (and Jarred Allmond and Tom Schwarz popped into the to the club after the game to chat to some old friends), at Prospect in round 14 they were as flat as tacks. Perhaps, in retrospect, Carr emulated Cahill and Laird and flogged his players at training mid-winter to build their leg strength for September?

They ran Norwood close at Norwood, which we should have paid more attention to. Their last quarters in the finals were exceptional. And they also exposed Norwood's 'slow build up' game plan, while also driving the ball deep into their forward line to give their talls every chance to create mayhem. 2019 will be interesting. North and Norwood will still be around the mark, South and Glenelg are knocking on the door, while there are question marks over Sturt and the Eagles due to personnel issues and game styles.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Wedgie » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:05 am

Robran wrote:The mighty roosters to win by 19 POINTS.

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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Robran » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:20 am

Wedgie wrote:
Robran wrote:The mighty roosters to win by 19 POINTS.

:shock:

Why didn't I put some coin down on that lol
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:26 am

What a great game to be at yesterday, well done to North on a great win. It’s been a funny couple of weeks of footy, this was the icing.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:42 am

Boyd taking it well. Maybe moving to another club will make it all better.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby holden78 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:56 am

Dogs64 wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:Anyone seen the rant posted by James Boyd from Eagles? Wrote an absolute essay whinging about the SANFL, North, 19th man, cheating, etc, with Seb Guilhaus in big trouble for his post last week, would suggest the players show a bit of maturity and let the Club handle it, doing themselves no favours and Boyd has not painted himself in the best light.


Personally, thought it was pretty accurate - free speech and all that. (Still glad it happened to Slaven)

We as a playing group don't hide away from the fact we were 47 points up during the game. North have been a great side all year and play an exciting, fast paced brand of football that can score quickly. However, momentum is a funny thing in football. And one that can not be measured.
At 3qtr time it was a 20 point deficit, not 40 odd points and in a final that's nothing! For a team to then start the last quarter with 19 players on the field, have numerous inside 50s, score 1.2 in that time to bring the score back to 2 goals early in the last qtr completely shifted the momentum. We as players, along with the coaching staff in the box, were wondering how they had an extra player free so it effected our teams structure severely. We then decided to drop a loose back to try and stifle the flow as we don't know where this spare is coming from which changed the whole dynamic of the game for that period and beyond. For the Judge to say that the extra player had no impact whatsoever clearly shows they had limited understanding of the situation as the loose player from the back of the square kicked the first behind of the last qtr!!
No impact?? Ok then!!
You can maybe understand 30 secs or even a minute and put it down to a miscommunication at the break but for a football club to be notified that their player named on the bench wasn't there and knowing that was happening and not do anything about it for over 4 minutes is nothing short of disgraceful. Furthermore, for them to make an interchange at the 45 second mark of the final qtr and to not realise then and pull a player immediately from the ground to me seems staggering. It was then 3 minutes after this that a player finally came from the ground. In this time they had scored 8 points.
At the absolute least no matter what the score, them winning by 20 points or 5 points the points in which they scored by having 19 players on the field should be wiped whether it meant they still win the game or not. In this case justice would have been served and their score deducted meaning the result overturned.
Its got nothing to do with next year. No one could care less the sanctions they get for next year. It's the fact that a game of football, hours, weeks, months of dedication and to be defined by an act of cheating and allowed to get away with it is disgraceful and something (they) have to live with!
If both parties in the end were happy for a rematch seems like that outcome is at least honourable, play it during the week and keep the grand final on Sunday. We as a football club were more than happy to put our hands up to do so.
They get an independent one-man tribunal, retired Supreme Court judge Michael David QC in to make the decision and so he comes to the conclusion that the most suitable outcome is to have a rematch, then saying that he doesn't have that option or the right to award that a rematch take place. Isn't that the whole point of getting another body in to make the decision for you? Yet he wasn't allowed to make the decision he deemed fair..
For the AFL to come out and say their governing body would have changed the outcome and overturned the result had this happened in an AFL game is telling you something. I didn't see Lance Armstrong just get a fine and keep his awards. Steve Smith, Dave Warner and Cameron Bancroft didn't just get a fine and were allowed to play the next test match... Guilty of cheating but can still play in a Grand Final the next week?? At the end of the day, cheating is cheating. Intentional or not.
He then goes on to say that the reversal of the result is too savage a penalty?? Did he consider that not reversing the result was equally a savage penalty to the Eagles? If we break that down, the Eagles were the innocent party. The penalty for the Eagles was elimination. North were the guilty party (grossly negligent – at fault). The penalty for North was elimination. Why is it that the penalty for North is too savage, when that is precisely, in effect, the outcome for the Eagles??
How every expert that has played or been involved in the game, greats of our game, people who have been around football or reporting on it for a long time can see exactly what the right and fair outcome is and yet (they) can't absolutely staggers me!
Coming from a players point of view, how our season has been made to come to an end not to mention the club, families, supporters, and wider communities it has and will continue to effect, think everything's fine now and we'll sweep it under the carpet with the grand final this weekend is an absolute travesty in itself. It's something my teammates (brothers) and I will take sometime to get past and something we won't ever forgive or forget with the way it was handled and dealt with.
A rematch at the absolute bare minimum was what should have taken place.


Listen as an Eagles supporter Boydy, I understand the points you have made quite well, however it’s the biggest and most important point that
You’re ignoring that tells the real problem.
The coaching and it’s love affair with that Gamestyle we have settled on plus not recruiting any midfielders who can move forward and use
the ball properly to our tall forwards, that’s why we do not win Big finals games since 2011! Hello let’s just be honest heh! :oops:
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:59 am

Jim05 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The Cotton curse is alive and well, aint it Grand, The other 2 traitors have nothing either

The guy simply can’t coach.


You're sinking the slipper into a bloke who got your team into the Grand Final where you have 30 shots on goal and score 105 points and you reckon he can't coach?

Fair dinkum, some of you blokes must rate your own coaching skills.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby LPH » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:03 am

Congrats Roosters on a great victory... fully deserved Premiership.
Was so glad I went (GF No 33), atmosphere & the game itself were superb - Banner was brilliant too.
It was up there with the best Grand Finals I've seen.

As for all the WWT & others complaining about the 'validity' & all that ... not a good look.
Heard Kurt Slaven on radio Saturday - felt like ring in & asking; "Hey Kurt, R U OK?"

P.S. Pity Skeff couldn't make it to yesterday - just missed Leicester & now North... no doubt in spirit though.
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Re: 2018 Grand Final - Norwood v North Adelaide

Postby Jim05 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:04 am

Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The Cotton curse is alive and well, aint it Grand, The other 2 traitors have nothing either

The guy simply can’t coach.


You're sinking the slipper into a bloke who got your team into the Grand Final where you have 30 shots on goal and score 105 points and you reckon he can't coach?

Fair dinkum, some of you blokes must rate your own coaching skills.

No Surman for starters
Playing McKenzie on a key tall.
Playing Dawe from the goal square
His handball happy game plan.
Anything else I missed?
The scoreboard doesn’t tell the true tale as without Grigg playing the best game of his career we lose by 10 goals.
After North’s big blokes had 5 marks I50 at the 10 minute mark of the first quarter you think he may have tried something different?
I’ve been steadfast all year that the bloke is a dud and even you could have coached that list to a flag.
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