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Postby Brett » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:42 pm

WOODVILLE-West Torrens is continuing its fight with the SANFL for financial compensation and will consider going to court six months after the league’s 19th man saga.
The Eagles wrote to the SANFL demanding they be compensated for missing a spot in the 2018 grand final after North Adelaide had an extra man on the field for the first four minutes of the final term of their five-point win in the preliminary final.
The result was allowed to stand and the Roosters went on to win the premiership despite being found to have been “grossly negligent” for their part in the fiasco, and subsequently were fined $10,000.
They were also docked four premiership points to start the 2019 season.
It is not known how much the Eagles were seeking in compensation, but the club believes it was denied significant commercial opportunities around membership, merchandise, events and prizemoney associated with playing in a grand final.
In a written reply to the Eagles earlier this year, the SANFL is understood to have rejected the club’s claim for compensation and considers the matter closed.
SANFL chief executive Jake Parkinson yesterday said his only comment was “the SANFL has already made its position clear to the Woodville-West Torrens Football Club on this matter”.
Eagles president Kurt Slaven said the club was seeking further legal advice and would not give up the fight.
“We’ll be pursuing this as hard as we can,” Slaven said.
“We had members at our AGM in February asking questions in that space and we are looking at all options.”
The Eagles are embracing their new-found rivalry with North and requested a Round 1 rematch with the Roosters at Woodville Oval, which was granted for Sunday, March 31.
While the club is maintaining its rage regarding the 19th man saga, Slaven said the playing group had moved on.
“This is a club matter,” he said. “We have a new coach, new recruits and the team is focused on getting the 2019 season off to a positive start with a win.”
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:04 pm

I think they should just move on and forget about it.
As mentioned new coach, new year, new start.

It’ll get drawn out and just be a distraction anyway.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby UK Fan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:49 pm

Can’t believe Eagles have to fight for this.

Compensation on the potential loss of revenue on not making a GF should of been paid upfront.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby rd » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:55 pm

The Prelim Final last year will be talked about for many years to come - maybe it will take over from the 1982 Granger Prelim Final as the most discussed PF in history. WWT lead by 52 points during the 3rd quarter and yet lose to North Adelaide who by the way had a 19th man on the ground for a few minutes in the last quarter. WWT lost the game and the opportunity to play in a Grand Final which killed off the usual financial benefits associated with being a GF team. North won the game but lost $10,000 to the SANFL. So only the SANFL gained out of this saga - to the tune of $10,000. To me the SANFL should pass that $10k onto the WWTFC and quietly take steps to ensure this 19th man event never occurs again...
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby JK » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:20 pm

If WWT get compensated for potential loss of Premiership revenue then Norwood could have the same claim, as ludicrous as that sounds. Surely it’s gone on long enough now that they could just accept responsibility for blowing such a commanding lead and were beaten by a better team (as were Norwood) and channel all their focus into season 2019?
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby Brett » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:57 pm

JK wrote:If WWT get compensated for potential loss of Premiership revenue then Norwood could have the same claim, as ludicrous as that sounds. Surely it’s gone on long enough now that they could just accept responsibility for blowing such a commanding lead and were beaten by a better team (as were Norwood) and channel all their focus into season 2019?



How so ? Are you assuming Norwood would have beaten the Eagles ?
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby JK » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:42 pm

Brett wrote:
JK wrote:If WWT get compensated for potential loss of Premiership revenue then Norwood could have the same claim, as ludicrous as that sounds. Surely it’s gone on long enough now that they could just accept responsibility for blowing such a commanding lead and were beaten by a better team (as were Norwood) and channel all their focus into season 2019?



How so ? Are you assuming Norwood would have beaten the Eagles ?


If Eagles progress, they either win the GF and possibly profit from it, or lose and most likely cop a loss for it. Identical set of circumstances would have applied to Norwood.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:44 pm

JK wrote:If WWT get compensated for potential loss of Premiership revenue then Norwood could have the same claim, as ludicrous as that sounds. Surely it’s gone on long enough now that they could just accept responsibility for blowing such a commanding lead and were beaten by a better team (as were Norwood) and channel all their focus into season 2019?


Are you referring to the Scott Hodges free kick?
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby JK » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:00 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:
JK wrote:If WWT get compensated for potential loss of Premiership revenue then Norwood could have the same claim, as ludicrous as that sounds. Surely it’s gone on long enough now that they could just accept responsibility for blowing such a commanding lead and were beaten by a better team (as were Norwood) and channel all their focus into season 2019?


Are you referring to the Scott Hodges free kick?


With your list of finals achievements you really wanna play that game? :lol:
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby UK Fan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:01 pm

JK wrote:
Brett wrote:
JK wrote:If WWT get compensated for potential loss of Premiership revenue then Norwood could have the same claim, as ludicrous as that sounds. Surely it’s gone on long enough now that they could just accept responsibility for blowing such a commanding lead and were beaten by a better team (as were Norwood) and channel all their focus into season 2019?



How so ? Are you assuming Norwood would have beaten the Eagles ?


If Eagles progress, they either win the GF and possibly profit from it, or lose and most likely cop a loss for it. Identical set of circumstances would have applied to Norwood.



The GF result is irrelevant. It’s about “potential revenue” lost.

Considering north were found guilty of “gross negligence” in causing the 19th man scenario this should of been a no brainer.

If it goes to court eagles would win easily imho

It’s not like we are talking about millions of dollars in compensation.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby Grenville » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:23 pm

Brett wrote:
JK wrote:If WWT get compensated for potential loss of Premiership revenue then Norwood could have the same claim, as ludicrous as that sounds. Surely it’s gone on long enough now that they could just accept responsibility for blowing such a commanding lead and were beaten by a better team (as were Norwood) and channel all their focus into season 2019?



How so ? Are you assuming Norwood would have beaten the Eagles ?


Comfortably I reckon.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby JK » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:51 pm

UK Fan wrote:The GF result is irrelevant. It’s about “potential revenue” lost.

Considering north were found guilty of “gross negligence” in causing the 19th man scenario this should of been a no brainer.

If it goes to court eagles would win easily imho

It’s not like we are talking about millions of dollars in compensation.


But wouldn’t that same “potential revenue” be equally valid for their GF opponent?

Regardless, I’m not sure how they could seek compensation for an unquantifiable amount?
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:17 pm

May I ask an innocent question?

Did WWT comply with this?

5.5 COUNTING OF PLAYERS 5.5.1 5.5.2 Request by Captain
The captain or acting captain of a Team may at any time during a Match request that the field Umpire count the number of Players of the opposing Team who are on the Playing Surface.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby Brett » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:12 pm

So why then have North copped a penalty ?

Anyway who cares , maybe the SANFL could also sue for a loss . We all know there would have been 10000 less people attend.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby UK Fan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:21 pm

JK wrote:
UK Fan wrote:The GF result is irrelevant. It’s about “potential revenue” lost.

Considering north were found guilty of “gross negligence” in causing the 19th man scenario this should of been a no brainer.

If it goes to court eagles would win easily imho

It’s not like we are talking about millions of dollars in compensation.


But wouldn’t that same “potential revenue” be equally valid for their GF opponent?

Regardless, I’m not sure how they could seek compensation for an unquantifiable amount?


No due to norwood didn’t lose an opportunity.

Love your work JK but that’s a long bow I can’t agree with
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby Spargo » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:27 pm

Brett wrote:So why then have North copped a penalty ?

Anyway who cares , maybe the SANFL could also sue for a loss . We all know there would have been 10000 less people attend.


What if it was Glenelg, Sturt or even Port in the Eagles place?
The crowd figure reasoning is irrelevant.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby JK » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:39 pm

UK Fan wrote:
JK wrote:
UK Fan wrote:The GF result is irrelevant. It’s about “potential revenue” lost.

Considering north were found guilty of “gross negligence” in causing the 19th man scenario this should of been a no brainer.

If it goes to court eagles would win easily imho

It’s not like we are talking about millions of dollars in compensation.


But wouldn’t that same “potential revenue” be equally valid for their GF opponent?

Regardless, I’m not sure how they could seek compensation for an unquantifiable amount?


No due to norwood didn’t lose an opportunity.

Love your work JK but that’s a long bow I can’t agree with


No longer than the one being drawn bud, Norwood lost the opportunity to play the Eagles in a GF (which could have gone either way, but if it’s hypothetical for one it has to be for the other too).

To clarify I’m not looking for compo for Norwood, just using it as an example
To highlight how Grey the issue is.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby goddy11 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:46 pm

Spargo wrote:
Brett wrote:So why then have North copped a penalty ?

Anyway who cares , maybe the SANFL could also sue for a loss . We all know there would have been 10000 less people attend.


What if it was Glenelg, Sturt or even Port in the Eagles place?
The crowd figure reasoning is irrelevant.

Exactly Spargo.
The newspaper article at the top of the page says it all. The Eagles just want to receive compensation for lost revenue and opportunities. They do not want to punish North or have the game overturned.
The magistrate punished North to the extent he could. I can't remember his words exactly but his restricted powers at the review did not allow the result to be overturned so this is the best outcome the Eagles can hope to expect.
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby DOC » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:47 pm

Brett wrote:So why then have North copped a penalty ?

Anyway who cares , maybe the SANFL could also sue for a loss . We all know there would have been 10000 less people attend.


Obviously as a WWT supporter you do. You started the thread and have commented twice further,
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Re: Eagles seeking compensation

Postby UK Fan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:44 am

JK wrote:
UK Fan wrote:
JK wrote:
UK Fan wrote:The GF result is irrelevant. It’s about “potential revenue” lost.

Considering north were found guilty of “gross negligence” in causing the 19th man scenario this should of been a no brainer.

If it goes to court eagles would win easily imho

It’s not like we are talking about millions of dollars in compensation.


But wouldn’t that same “potential revenue” be equally valid for their GF opponent?

Regardless, I’m not sure how they could seek compensation for an unquantifiable amount?


No due to norwood didn’t lose an opportunity.

Love your work JK but that’s a long bow I can’t agree with


No longer than the one being drawn bud, Norwood lost the opportunity to play the Eagles in a GF (which could have gone either way, but if it’s hypothetical for one it has to be for the other too).

To clarify I’m not looking for compo for Norwood, just using it as an example
To highlight how Grey the issue is.



I don’t see any correlation at all I’m sorry
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