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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby FlyingHigh » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:24 pm

beef wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Taheny very impressive at full forward last night

Saw him kick 8 as a 16 year old in u/18's. Quick off the mark, awesome vertical leap and very good kick, Bamford said he's been working hard on the defensive stuff as well. Didn't see last night but Stephens 25 touches is also very good player who is a hard worker.


Was wondering how he was getting on coz seen he's been kicking a few goals over the weeks but wasn't sure whether it was easier goals in a good side.

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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby DOC » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:19 am

By Andrew Faulkner in the Austtralian
On Monday we’ll be reminded that the AFL is the VFL with the V turned upside down and furnished with a small ornamental crossbar.

Those of us in the states that are not Victoria will be put in our place. Again.

For the V, pardon, A-FL, is coming for your players.

For your star ruckman. Your centreman. Your centre-half-forward. The player your local club has groomed and nurtured and fostered. The player recruited with scarce money, only to be stolen mid-season, cruelling finals aspirations and breaking supporters’ hearts.

Stolen is not too harsh a word, because the local clubs get nothing in return.

The mid-season draft is open season on local football. About 15 players are expected to be selected on Monday in the first mid-season draft since 1993.

AFL talent ambassador Kevin Sheehan said on Melbourne radio this week losing a player mid-season was great for a local club’s “culture”.

“(It is) a little minor setback that you might lose one, but great for the culture of that club to be pushing your boys up to give them a chance,” Sheehan said.

Where to begin. Firstly, clubs such as Norwood, Glenelg, Claremont and Swan Districts aren’t lacking in the culture department. They could teach a few AFL franchises a thing or two about culture. But won’t someone think of the kiddies? All they ask is a chance!

Well, state clubs are proud when their players are drafted — in the draft proper. But not in the middle of the season.

South Adelaide expect to lose the SANFL’s leading ruckman, Michael Knoll. This, after South lost forward/ruckman Hayden McLean to Sydney as a “supplementary” recruit in March. And that, after they lost ruckman Keegan Brooksby, to West Coast as a “Pre-Season Supplemental Selection”.

As you can imagine, South Adelaide’s inventory of tall timber is starting to look a tad thin.

South fans shuffle their feet, hands in pockets, and mumble something about that just being the way of the world. Because South people are used to hardship. They haven’t won a premiership since 1964.

But there’s plenty to speak for them, such as ex-Port captain Warren Tredrea, who says the mid-season draft threatens the fabric of the WAFL, SANFL and even the VFL.

“Once again, the AFL has misread the room and got it terribly wrong,” Tredrea wrote in The Advertiser this week.

Norwood chief executive and former Western Bulldogs football manager James Fantasia says the AFL has acted in haste.

“This will have little or no impact on the AFL clubs … but the impact on the SANFL is enormous,” Fantasia says.

Fantasia said the jump from the second to the top tier was too big a leap for a player during a season. “To suggest that you can play a player from a state league, that he’s going to walk into an AFL side that same year, that’s pie in the sky stuff.”

Inaugural Adelaide coach Graham Cornes says AFL clubs are announcing “strategic retirements” so they can “ravage local leagues” on Monday.

“It should never have come to this,” Cornes wrote in The Advertiser. “In typical AFL fashion it has determined an outcome before considering the process or the impact.”

If the AFL needs more players, then expand the lists. And do it via the November draft, so everyone’s on a level playing field.

Again, local clubs are delighted when their players are taken in the draft proper.

My own club — and let that stand as a declaration of interest from a Sturt member — presently has 17 players on AFL lists. A full starting side bar one.

It’s not enough that the Double Blues gave the game attacking handball, Peter Motley and the widespread use of the checkside punt — oh, and a ruckman by the name of Brodie Grundy — we have to hand over more players in the middle of the season? What have you done with the others?

If all this isn’t bad enough, AFL clubs have admitted they won’t use the mid-season draft for its intended purpose; that is, recruiting a mature player to fill a gap created by an injury or a retirement. Instead clubs will take youngsters not yet ready for AFL, and develop them over more than the current season.

There are voices of dissent. Chris Scott, for example, is opposed to AFL clubs warehousing young players overlooked in the draft.

“I don’t think that was the intention, and it looks like that’s the way it might be used,” Scott told AFL 360 this week. “Stephen Wells, who I have an enormous amount of respect for, our list manager and recruiting manager, has been opposed to the idea for a long time on the basis that the art of list management is getting your team ready for the whole season.”
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby Spargo » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:43 am

Great article.
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby PanthersFan » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:34 am

Fantastic article! Very good quote from Chris Scott, I’ve been bagging the AFL teams about that and to hear it from an AFL coach (whose team sits comfortably on top) is good to hear.
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby JK » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:45 pm

Agreed, very well written
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby Dogs64 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:44 pm

Excellent article, spot on.

Kevin Sheehan's comments on "club culture", probably are reflective of what the AFL think of the SANFL, i.e no idea. Like the article discusses, to introduce something which will have a very minimal impact on one competition (AFL) but a potential dramatic impact on another is pure arrogance and ignorance.
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby spell_check » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:49 pm

Dogs64 wrote:Excellent article, spot on.

Kevin Sheehan's comments on "club culture", probably are reflective of what the AFL think of the SANFL, i.e no idea. Like the article discusses to introduce something which will have a very minimal impact on one competition (AFL) but a potential dramatic impact on another is pure arrogance and ignorance.


Another draft is just another chance for Sheehan to fap.
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby beef » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:33 pm

u/18 v u/20 state trial tonight at Thebby, think this is the last hit out for 18's before championships

SA U18 State Academy
No. Name Surname Club DOB Height Weight
1 Kysaiah Pickett Eagles 02-Jun-01 170.2 66.8
4 Jordan O'Brien Central District 09-Mar-01 173.8 71.6
5 Darnell Tucker South Adelaide 01-Nov-00 174.0 70.0
7 Dylan Stephens Norwood 08-Jan-01 182.6 69.3
8 Jed McEntee Sturt 15-Feb-01 177.0 74.3
9 Cameron Taheny Norwood 03-Aug-01 185.3 79.5
10 Joshua Shute Sturt 28-Mar-01 186.5 73.4
11 Callum Park Glenelg 19-Jan-01 188.0 67.0
12 Will Day West Adelaide 05-Jun-01 187.3 70.3
14 Declan Carmody Glenelg 16-Mar-00 180.0 76.0
15 Harry Schoenberg Eagles 21-Feb-01 180.0 78.0
16 Zac Dumesny South Adelaide 26-Apr-02 186.0 77.1
17 Josh Morris Eagles 07-Nov-01 186.0 76.0
18 Jackson Mead Eagles 30-Sep-01 183.5 82.9
19 Luke Edwards Glenelg 12-Jan-02 187.0 78.5
20 Lachlan McNeil Eagles 02-Sep-01 181.6 79.8
22 Harrison Magor North Adelaide 09-May-01 183.0 82.5
23 Brady Searle Glenelg 20-Nov-01 185.5 80.9
24 Will Gould Glenelg 14-Jan-01 191.2 98.0
30 Oliver Grivell Sturt 18-Jan-01 191.0 85.9
32 Daniel Sladojevic South Adelaide 12-Jun-01 192.0 88.0
33 Dyson Hilder North Adelaide 31-Mar-01 195.8 91.3
35 Karl Finlay North Adelaide 14-Jul-01 192.0 87.7
37 Lachlan Burrows Sturt 24-Nov-00 195.0 95.0
42 Damon Freitag South Adelaide 28-Mar-01 198.0 99.0
43 Jamie Coff Eagles 23-Feb-01 195.0 90.7
Injured: T Rundle (Knee), O Shaw (Ankle), T Schofield (Ankle), R Thilthorpe (Ankle), C Horsnell (Back Tightness)


SA U20
No. Name Surname Club Height Weight
1 Terrel Rigney NAFC 175 61.4
3 Michael Ortiz CDFC 170 72.8
5 Adam Trenorden SFC 177 74
7 Will Gutsche WAFC 181 80
9 Eamon Wilkinson SAFC 182 74
13 Mason Neagle NAFC 180 72.6
15 Reece Milsom SAFC 187 74.2
17 Brodie Carroll NFC 187.5 74
19 Seb Kerrish GFC 187 75
21 Harrison Morgan WWTFC 188 74.5
23 Keelan Laube WAFC 189.5 73.1
25 Connor McLeod WWTFC 183.7 80.1
27 Rory Illman SFC 181.5 82.3
29 Casey Voss SFC 185 83
31 Mihail Lochowiak SFC 185 85
33 Mitchell Payne CDFC 189 82.5
35 Rhett Montgomerie CDFC 189 86.5
39 Ryan Bruce WWTFC 190 91.8
41 Sam Davis GFC 192 91.8
43 Grady Armfield WWTFC 193 91.2
45 Angus Rana WAFC 198 89
57 Daniel Johnston NFC 196 105.2
59 Josh Hart NAFC 205 98



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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby wild dog » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:27 am

beef wrote:u/18 v u/20 state trial tonight at Thebby, think this is the last hit out for 18's before championships

SA U18 State Academy
No. Name Surname Club DOB Height Weight
1 Kysaiah Pickett Eagles 02-Jun-01 170.2 66.8
4 Jordan O'Brien Central District 09-Mar-01 173.8 71.6
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SA U20
No. Name Surname Club Height Weight
1 Terrel Rigney NAFC 175 61.4
3 Michael Ortiz CDFC 170 72.8
5 Adam Trenorden SFC 177 74
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U20's lost - I was told there was some strange rule modifications plus some U18's playing in the 20's. Anyone see the game?
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby beef » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:58 am

Wasn't at the game but it's nothing more than a trial game for the 18's before the championships begin this week in Perth. It's actually stupid for an u/20's state side to be even playing as all it did was effect most reserves sides and anyone selected to play league didn't have to play anyway.
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby Mr Beefy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:49 am

When do they announce the U18 team to take on WA?
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby beef » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:56 am

Mr Beefy wrote:When do they announce the U18 team to take on WA?

It was picked Tuesday night, not sure when officially announced. I got a list if looking for anyone in particular
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby Mr Beefy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:00 pm

beef wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:When do they announce the U18 team to take on WA?

It was picked Tuesday night, not sure when officially announced. I got a list if looking for anyone in particular
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby beef » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:03 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:
beef wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:When do they announce the U18 team to take on WA?

It was picked Tuesday night, not sure when officially announced. I got a list if looking for anyone in particular
Morris

Yes in the team for Game 1.
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby Mr Beefy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:04 pm

Can you post the whole list?
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby beef » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:12 pm

Corey Durdin CDFC
Jordan O'Brien CDFC
Luke Edwards GFC
Callum Park GFC
Will Gould GFC
Dyson Hilder NAFC
Harrison Magor NAFC
Karl Finlay NAFC
Cameron Taheny NFC
Dylan Stephens NFC
Damon Freitag SAFC
Daniel Sladojevic SAFC
Darnell Tucker SAFC
Jed McEntee SFC
Joshua Shute SFC
Lachlan Burrows SFC
Oliver Grivell SFC
Will Day WAFC
Jackson Mead WWTFC
Joshua Morris WWTFC
Kysaiah Pickett WWTFC
Lachlan McNeil WWTFC
Harry Schoenberg WWTFC
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:21 pm

Have been unlucky enough to coach against Jason Horne, he can seriously play. Matt Roberts is a gun also and Dudley is an excitement machine. Good luck to the lads, will watch with a fair bit of interest -



The Torrens University SA Under-16 Team is preparing to begin its title defence with its first clash of the AFL National Championships against Western Australia in Perth on Sunday.

Coached again by last year’s All-Australian mentor Julian ****, the Croweaters are gearing up for a hard-running contest on the wide expanses of Subiaco Oval.

Three players from last year’s Championship winning outfit will line up again in 2019, led by newly named captain Jason Horne (pictured above).

Horne will have a key role to play in the midfield alongside South Adelaide teammate Matthew Roberts while Central District goal sneak Isaiah Dudley will be hoping to replicate his creative play at last year’s carnival.

The opening match against the Sandgropers begins at 1.45pm SA time and will play a critical role in shaping the Croweaters’ campaign ahead of matches against Victoria Metro on Monday July 8 and Victoria Country on Friday July 12 at Southport and the Gabba.

F: Jay Watson, Henry Smith, Isaiah Dudley

HF: Caleb Poulter, Morgan Ferres, Harry Tunkin

C: Jase Burgoyne, Matthew Roberts, Zyton Santillo

HB: Lewis Rayson, Matthew Dnistriansky, Arlo Draper

B: Lachlan Thomas, Oscar Adams, Brock Thomson

R: Declan Hortle, Cooper Murley, Jason Horne

INT: Cade Kennedy, Brad Jefferies, Harry McInnes, Tyson Coe, Hugh Desira
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby wild dog » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:58 pm

beef wrote:Wasn't at the game but it's nothing more than a trial game for the 18's before the championships begin this week in Perth. It's actually stupid for an u/20's state side to be even playing as all it did was effect most reserves sides and anyone selected to play league didn't have to play anyway.


Cheers, I agree does seem to be another disruptive element but the U20's get another chance to impress a recruiter I guess. It would appear that the rules were modified to ensure injuries were minimised but not communicated well.
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Re: SA 2019 Draft Watch

Postby beef » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:26 pm

Dutchy wrote:Have been unlucky enough to coach against Jason Horne, he can seriously play. Matt Roberts is a gun also and Dudley is an excitement machine. Good luck to the lads, will watch with a fair bit of interest -



The Torrens University SA Under-16 Team is preparing to begin its title defence with its first clash of the AFL National Championships against Western Australia in Perth on Sunday.

Coached again by last year’s All-Australian mentor Julian ****, the Croweaters are gearing up for a hard-running contest on the wide expanses of Subiaco Oval.

Three players from last year’s Championship winning outfit will line up again in 2019, led by newly named captain Jason Horne (pictured above).

Horne will have a key role to play in the midfield alongside South Adelaide teammate Matthew Roberts while Central District goal sneak Isaiah Dudley will be hoping to replicate his creative play at last year’s carnival.

The opening match against the Sandgropers begins at 1.45pm SA time and will play a critical role in shaping the Croweaters’ campaign ahead of matches against Victoria Metro on Monday July 8 and Victoria Country on Friday July 12 at Southport and the Gabba.

F: Jay Watson, Henry Smith, Isaiah Dudley

HF: Caleb Poulter, Morgan Ferres, Harry Tunkin

C: Jase Burgoyne, Matthew Roberts, Zyton Santillo

HB: Lewis Rayson, Matthew Dnistriansky, Arlo Draper

B: Lachlan Thomas, Oscar Adams, Brock Thomson

R: Declan Hortle, Cooper Murley, Jason Horne

INT: Cade Kennedy, Brad Jefferies, Harry McInnes, Tyson Coe, Hugh Desira

Have a few good players. Cooper Murley is one I rate highly. Not sure if as good as last year's side that won it but him and the 3 you've mentioned should go well.
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