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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby goddy11 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:10 am

I wonder what Doug Thomas would say about any deal with PA. :D
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby gazzamagoo » Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:16 am

"Smart move by Brad Gotch though.....guessing he only gets sent to Port if he's not selected in West's league side, if Port don't pick him either he plays 2's at Westies."
It's the other way around, he's now signed up with Port, if he doesn't play for Port, he goes back to West.
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby whufc » Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:27 am

I don't mind the idea of a formalised loan set up but cant believe there will now be a situation where a bloke can go between two clubs week to week.

Surely Westies wouldn't play him in the league side if dropped back though, would be a pretty big distraction having him come in from week to week....is he allowed to play against West Adelaide.

What happens if Port drop him for form, are Westies required to play him in the league side or can they just place him in the ressies.
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby whybother » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:08 am

Isn't there an old saying "....if you sup with the Devil" ?
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby gazzamagoo » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:13 am

whufc wrote:I don't mind the idea of a formalised loan set up but cant believe there will now be a situation where a bloke can go between two clubs week to week.

Surely Westies wouldn't play him in the league side if dropped back though, would be a pretty big distraction having him come in from week to week....is he allowed to play against West Adelaide.

What happens if Port drop him for form, are Westies required to play him in the league side or can they just place him in the ressies.


This happened at Centrals, a player was dropped from their AFL overlord but Roy wouldn't play him where the overlords wanted Roy to play him so the overlords took him from Centrals & placed him at another SANFL club.
Here we go again,
just create an AFL reserves comp!
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby whufc » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:16 am

gazzamagoo wrote:
whufc wrote:I don't mind the idea of a formalised loan set up but cant believe there will now be a situation where a bloke can go between two clubs week to week.

Surely Westies wouldn't play him in the league side if dropped back though, would be a pretty big distraction having him come in from week to week....is he allowed to play against West Adelaide.

What happens if Port drop him for form, are Westies required to play him in the league side or can they just place him in the ressies.


This happened at Centrals, a player was dropped from their AFL overlord but Roy wouldn't play him where the overlords wanted Roy to play him so the overlords took him from Centrals & placed him at another SANFL club.
Here we go again,
just create an AFL reserves comp!


I get the old set up where AFL listed players somewhat dictated what grade they played in at SANFL level but there is a couple of differences. This isn't a loan from a team in another competition, this player isn't AFL listed his not even a level above current SANFL players.
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby gazzamagoo » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:23 am

Could we be witnessing a SANFL club aligning with an AFL club?
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby whufc » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:38 am

gazzamagoo wrote:Could we be witnessing a SANFL club aligning with an AFL club?


I'm all for formalised season long loans. Centrals would be a great example of this.

At the moment we have a shortage of ruckmen...….would be great if there is another club who are very well equipped in that area that would be happy to loan one of their up and comers who wont get an oppurtunity at league footy this year.

Essentially there would be need to be a small loan fee no doubt...….but not as much as what the transfer fees are.

Player would train for the season with the loaning club but remain in contact with their home club.

Just like in the EPL you could have rules that's clubs can negotiate such as:
-Not allowed to play against home club
-Can negotiate a recall in the loan for the home club, can include no recall for the home club
-Can include an option to transfer at the end of season with a set transfer fee included
-Can stipulate a role a player must play at the loaning club, if not adhered to the recall option if included could be activated
-Might include fees if the player plays XXXX amount of league games, kicks XXX amount of goals etc.
-Deadline date throughout season for loans to agreed.
-In the EPL a player can only go out on loan once in a season, they cant go to multiple clubs in the same season.
-In the EPL there is rules about amount of players a club can loan and how many players from the one club they can loan.

Surely there would be players that would be willing to be loaned out on the basis of better oppurtunity and it has to only be a good thing for the league in fringe(ish) players stay in the SANFL system rather than give up on their SANFL hopes and play country.

If you look at british football its a pretty fair system that sees benefits for all 3 parties, the player, the loaning club, the home club.
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby gazzamagoo » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:42 am

whufc wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:Could we be witnessing a SANFL club aligning with an AFL club?


I'm all for formalised season long loans. Centrals would be a great example of this.

At the moment we have a shortage of ruckmen...….would be great if there is another club who are very well equipped in that area that would be happy to loan one of their up and comers who wont get an oppurtunity at league footy this year.

Essentially there would be need to be a small loan fee no doubt...….but not as much as what the transfer fees are.

Player would train for the season with the loaning club but remain in contact with their home club.

Just like in the EPL you could have rules that's clubs can negotiate such as:
-Not allowed to play against home club
-Can negotiate a recall in the loan for the home club, can include no recall for the home club
-Can include an option to transfer at the end of season with a set transfer fee included
-Can stipulate a role a player must play at the loaning club, if not adhered to the recall option if included could be activated
-Might include fees if the player plays XXXX amount of league games, kicks XXX amount of goals etc.
-Deadline date throughout season for loans to agreed.
-In the EPL a player can only go out on loan once in a season, they cant go to multiple clubs in the same season.
-In the EPL there is rules about amount of players a club can loan and how many players from the one club they can loan.

Surely there would be players that would be willing to be loaned out on the basis of better oppurtunity and it has to only be a good thing for the league in fringe(ish) players stay in the SANFL system rather than give up on their SANFL hopes and play country.

One good point, they won't leave the SANFL for the lure of bigger bucks in the country.
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby whufc » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:58 am

gazzamagoo wrote:
whufc wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:Could we be witnessing a SANFL club aligning with an AFL club?


I'm all for formalised season long loans. Centrals would be a great example of this.

At the moment we have a shortage of ruckmen...….would be great if there is another club who are very well equipped in that area that would be happy to loan one of their up and comers who wont get an oppurtunity at league footy this year.

Essentially there would be need to be a small loan fee no doubt...….but not as much as what the transfer fees are.

Player would train for the season with the loaning club but remain in contact with their home club.

Just like in the EPL you could have rules that's clubs can negotiate such as:
-Not allowed to play against home club
-Can negotiate a recall in the loan for the home club, can include no recall for the home club
-Can include an option to transfer at the end of season with a set transfer fee included
-Can stipulate a role a player must play at the loaning club, if not adhered to the recall option if included could be activated
-Might include fees if the player plays XXXX amount of league games, kicks XXX amount of goals etc.
-Deadline date throughout season for loans to agreed.
-In the EPL a player can only go out on loan once in a season, they cant go to multiple clubs in the same season.
-In the EPL there is rules about amount of players a club can loan and how many players from the one club they can loan.

Surely there would be players that would be willing to be loaned out on the basis of better oppurtunity and it has to only be a good thing for the league in fringe(ish) players stay in the SANFL system rather than give up on their SANFL hopes and play country.

One good point, they won't leave the SANFL for the lure of bigger bucks in the country.


Yep you would like to think they would have a crack at a SANFL league season for a year if they knew they were going to get better league opportunities. At the end of that season they will either go back to their home club who will hopefully see greater potential in them or the other SANFL clubs may see a higher value in them and be willing to pay the transfer fee.

I mean its not a perfect system and for one reason or another we see loans fail, not sure what the rules are in the EPL about paying for costs if a player is injured etc but imo what I have seen over the last twenty years is the system has greater positives than negatives.
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby mots02 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:29 pm

whufc wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:Could we be witnessing a SANFL club aligning with an AFL club?


I'm all for formalised season long loans. Centrals would be a great example of this.

At the moment we have a shortage of ruckmen...….would be great if there is another club who are very well equipped in that area that would be happy to loan one of their up and comers who wont get an oppurtunity at league footy this year.

Essentially there would be need to be a small loan fee no doubt...….but not as much as what the transfer fees are.

Player would train for the season with the loaning club but remain in contact with their home club.

Just like in the EPL you could have rules that's clubs can negotiate such as:
-Not allowed to play against home club
-Can negotiate a recall in the loan for the home club, can include no recall for the home club
-Can include an option to transfer at the end of season with a set transfer fee included
-Can stipulate a role a player must play at the loaning club, if not adhered to the recall option if included could be activated
-Might include fees if the player plays XXXX amount of league games, kicks XXX amount of goals etc.
-Deadline date throughout season for loans to agreed.
-In the EPL a player can only go out on loan once in a season, they cant go to multiple clubs in the same season.
-In the EPL there is rules about amount of players a club can loan and how many players from the one club they can loan.

Surely there would be players that would be willing to be loaned out on the basis of better oppurtunity and it has to only be a good thing for the league in fringe(ish) players stay in the SANFL system rather than give up on their SANFL hopes and play country.

If you look at british football its a pretty fair system that sees benefits for all 3 parties, the player, the loaning club, the home club.


Is that the collective noun for a the group of short ruckmen you currently have?
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby DOC » Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:13 pm

2022 Hostplus SANFL League Trial Match Series
WEEK 1
Saturday February 26
Central v South (6 periods) at X Convenience Oval – 10am
West v Adelaide at Hisense Stadium – 7pm

WEEK 2
Saturday March 5
Port v Eagles (6 periods) at Alberton Oval – 10am
Adelaide v North at West Lakes – 10am
Norwood v Sturt at Coopers Stadium – 12.30pm

WEEK 3
Friday March 11
Glenelg v North at TBC

Saturday March 12
South v Sturt at Flinders University Stadium – 12.30pm
Central v Eagles at X Convenience Oval – 12.40pm
West v Norwood at Hisense Stadium – 4.40pm

WEEK 4
Saturday March 19
Central v Sturt at X Convenience Oval – 12.15pm
Adelaide v Norwood at West Lakes – 12.30pm
South v Eagles at Flinders University Stadium – 1.10pm
West v Glenelg at Hisense Stadium – 2.10pm
Port v North at Alberton – TBC

WEEK 5
Friday March 25
Port v Adelaide at Alberton – TBC
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby Doddy » Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:19 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Doddy wrote:Joe Blow could do a better job.

Paul Thomas couldn't though. :lol:


Thanks for your incisive commentary Wedgie, probably right too. But it was only meant as a hand job vs. blow job joke.
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby Wedgie » Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:36 pm

DOC wrote:2022 Hostplus SANFL League Trial Match Series
WEEK 1
Saturday February 26
Central v South (6 periods) at X Convenience Oval – 10am
West v Adelaide at Hisense Stadium – 7pm

WEEK 2
Saturday March 5
Port v Eagles (6 periods) at Alberton Oval – 10am
Adelaide v North at West Lakes – 10am
Norwood v Sturt at Coopers Stadium – 12.30pm

WEEK 3
Friday March 11
Glenelg v North at TBC

Saturday March 12
South v Sturt at Flinders University Stadium – 12.30pm
Central v Eagles at X Convenience Oval – 12.40pm
West v Norwood at Hisense Stadium – 4.40pm

WEEK 4
Saturday March 19
Central v Sturt at X Convenience Oval – 12.15pm
Adelaide v Norwood at West Lakes – 12.30pm
South v Eagles at Flinders University Stadium – 1.10pm
West v Glenelg at Hisense Stadium – 2.10pm
Port v North at Alberton – TBC

WEEK 5
Friday March 25
Port v Adelaide at Alberton – TBC

North and Glenelg is at Thebby 7.40pm
And the Port v North game is at 12.30pm
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby Hazydog » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:32 pm

gazzamagoo wrote:"Smart move by Brad Gotch though.....guessing he only gets sent to Port if he's not selected in West's league side, if Port don't pick him either he plays 2's at Westies."
It's the other way around, he's now signed up with Port, if he doesn't play for Port, he goes back to West.


The way I read it the intention is he’ll be playing with the Power Reserves all year so West won’t see him at all.. could be wrong..
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby am Bays » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:43 pm

goddy11 wrote:I wonder what Doug Thomas would say about any deal with PA. :D

Would probably barrack for Ukraine
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby gazzamagoo » Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:50 pm

Hazydog wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:"Smart move by Brad Gotch though.....guessing he only gets sent to Port if he's not selected in West's league side, if Port don't pick him either he plays 2's at Westies."
It's the other way around, he's now signed up with Port, if he doesn't play for Port, he goes back to West.


The way I read it the intention is he’ll be playing with the Power Reserves all year so West won’t see him at all.. could be wrong..


I don't think he's good enough yet for league SANFL.
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby Brodlach » Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:25 pm

gazzamagoo wrote:
Hazydog wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:"Smart move by Brad Gotch though.....guessing he only gets sent to Port if he's not selected in West's league side, if Port don't pick him either he plays 2's at Westies."
It's the other way around, he's now signed up with Port, if he doesn't play for Port, he goes back to West.


The way I read it the intention is he’ll be playing with the Power Reserves all year so West won’t see him at all.. could be wrong..


I don't think he's good enough yet for league SANFL.

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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby Thiele » Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:56 pm

DOC wrote:2022 Hostplus SANFL League Trial Match Series
WEEK 1
Saturday February 26
Central v South (6 periods) at X Convenience Oval – 10am
West v Adelaide at Hisense Stadium – 7pm

WEEK 2
Saturday March 5
Port v Eagles (6 periods) at Alberton Oval – 10am
Adelaide v North at West Lakes – 10am
Norwood v Sturt at Coopers Stadium – 12.30pm

WEEK 3
Friday March 11
Glenelg v North at TBC

Saturday March 12
South v Sturt at Flinders University Stadium – 12.30pm
Central v Eagles at X Convenience Oval – 12.40pm
West v Norwood at Hisense Stadium – 4.40pm

WEEK 4
Saturday March 19
Central v Sturt at X Convenience Oval – 12.15pm
Adelaide v Norwood at West Lakes – 12.30pm
South v Eagles at Flinders University Stadium – 1.10pm
West v Glenelg at Hisense Stadium – 2.10pm
Port v North at Alberton – TBC

WEEK 5
Friday March 25
Port v Adelaide at Alberton – TBC
West (It would of been over 21s) V Adelaide has been cancelled due the Crows covid postion. West (under 21s)v St Peters instead at 7pm 4x 25 min 1/4s
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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

Postby DOC » Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:58 pm

Hows the bloods looking Thiele?
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