by whufc » Mon May 09, 2022 4:55 pm
by Hazydog » Mon May 09, 2022 4:57 pm
am Bays wrote:Booney wrote:Hazydog wrote:Geez things have changed since we were that dominant over a decade a lot of other club supporters lost a lot of interest and resorted to blaming us for ruining the comp for being too good…good to see most are a bit chirpier now. FWIW..Northerner raises valid points about our poor/challenging recruitment pool.. and I can understand why we’ve received little if any respite from the SANFL given firstly our decade of dominance but probably more likely to do with our outspoken anti AFL stance. And yes, I’m not convinced players and coaches resorting to commenting on FB is the wisest move, even if it does demonstrate some passion that may be perceived not to be there.
It’s a double edged sword when supporters enjoy 9 flags in 12 years…a dominance that may never be repeated. We should be satisfied for life in some respects, but of course we aren’t. We feel embarrassed that we’ve sunk to the levels that most other clubs have experienced over the last 20 years and feel it’s beneath what we stand for. Yet Sturt, Glenelg, North, Ethelton, West… all went through more embarrassing periods of onfield ineptness and without the spectacular success we have had. ( Have I mentioned that already?)
Chill out Guys… we have to bide our time, work our way out of it and be supportive and patient.
Slagging off your own club is too easy and in my book, somewhat of a character flaw. (Often related to personal/emotional negative experiences like being told your services are no longer required etc.) Just my opinion of course…
Nobody ever did that.
No dinkum SANFL fan ever did that, most saw it as a level of excellence to aspire too, not to drag you down.
Cant say there wasnt a minority <10% who whinged about you but the absolute majority looked on in grudging admiration.
by whufc » Mon May 09, 2022 5:05 pm
by gazzamagoo » Mon May 09, 2022 5:18 pm
whufc wrote:And the perfect game this week against Norwood. Both our players and fans love a good biff with this mob.
Friday night as well, could be an anniversary for one very fateful night in 2000
by Spargo » Mon May 09, 2022 5:24 pm
gazzamagoo wrote:whufc wrote:And the perfect game this week against Norwood. Both our players and fans love a good biff with this mob.
Friday night as well, could be an anniversary for one very fateful night in 2000
Unfortunately We have to wait another week to Biff them.
The stupid state game is on this weekend.
by Dogs64 » Mon May 09, 2022 5:32 pm
whufc wrote:PS. saw Aiden Grace comments......what a wanker.
His been at the club two minutes and thinks he can tell the fans there not true supporters. Most of those blokes posting did it tough for 30 odd years before our first premiership and they haven't seen a worse side than the current one. Him telling the fans 'you're all not true supporters' is bloody rich.
And now we have Paul Thomas responding to posts as well but not really in a constructive manner. Surely his been in the game long enough to know that when results like this year happen people are going to ask questions or be critical. To be fair the comments aren't even that bad other than 'the team has gone backwards', 'is Thomas the right man', 'Thommo isn't the right man'. I wouldn't call them completely unfair comments given the circumstances.
by gazzamagoo » Mon May 09, 2022 5:38 pm
Dogs64 wrote:whufc wrote:PS. saw Aiden Grace comments......what a wanker.
His been at the club two minutes and thinks he can tell the fans there not true supporters. Most of those blokes posting did it tough for 30 odd years before our first premiership and they haven't seen a worse side than the current one. Him telling the fans 'you're all not true supporters' is bloody rich.
And now we have Paul Thomas responding to posts as well but not really in a constructive manner. Surely his been in the game long enough to know that when results like this year happen people are going to ask questions or be critical. To be fair the comments aren't even that bad other than 'the team has gone backwards', 'is Thomas the right man', 'Thommo isn't the right man'. I wouldn't call them completely unfair comments given the circumstances.
Aiden Grace, was supporting the coach and taking responsibility for the performance. "Nothing to do with our coach", "we played we take responsibility for it, it's not acceptable", "But don't try to blame it on one person". Again, I say good on him. As a player he understands it's not acceptable but don't blame the coach, pretty simple. I'm assuming his comments weren't necessarily directed at your selected quotes but maybe the three individuals that wrote 1) "Paul Thomas must resign immediately. You have failed", 2) We need a complete review and new leadership starting with the coach" and 3) "Time for the coach to go." If these three are supporters, they're entitled to their opinion, despite how wrong it would seem to many, including the players. They sound like those Richmond or Melbourne supporters that wanted to get rid of Hardwick or Goodwin early on. He's about 6 games into his second season, with an average squad, I wish the answer were as simple as removing the coach at this early stage but I'm not that naïve.
by whufc » Mon May 09, 2022 5:39 pm
by whufc » Mon May 09, 2022 5:42 pm
gazzamagoo wrote:Dogs64 wrote:whufc wrote:PS. saw Aiden Grace comments......what a wanker.
His been at the club two minutes and thinks he can tell the fans there not true supporters. Most of those blokes posting did it tough for 30 odd years before our first premiership and they haven't seen a worse side than the current one. Him telling the fans 'you're all not true supporters' is bloody rich.
And now we have Paul Thomas responding to posts as well but not really in a constructive manner. Surely his been in the game long enough to know that when results like this year happen people are going to ask questions or be critical. To be fair the comments aren't even that bad other than 'the team has gone backwards', 'is Thomas the right man', 'Thommo isn't the right man'. I wouldn't call them completely unfair comments given the circumstances.
Aiden Grace, was supporting the coach and taking responsibility for the performance. "Nothing to do with our coach", "we played we take responsibility for it, it's not acceptable", "But don't try to blame it on one person". Again, I say good on him. As a player he understands it's not acceptable but don't blame the coach, pretty simple. I'm assuming his comments weren't necessarily directed at your selected quotes but maybe the three individuals that wrote 1) "Paul Thomas must resign immediately. You have failed", 2) We need a complete review and new leadership starting with the coach" and 3) "Time for the coach to go." If these three are supporters, they're entitled to their opinion, despite how wrong it would seem to many, including the players. They sound like those Richmond or Melbourne supporters that wanted to get rid of Hardwick or Goodwin early on. He's about 6 games into his second season, with an average squad, I wish the answer were as simple as removing the coach at this early stage but I'm not that naïve.
Love his passion, should be more of it!
He said "I believe wins will come & so does Thommo.
I have belief in him as a coach and trust him with anything.
I couldn't help myself and I can't stand people blaming Thommo."
Probably shouldn't bitten but he's certainly got his heart in the right place.
by Hazydog » Mon May 09, 2022 5:51 pm
by Dogs64 » Mon May 09, 2022 5:55 pm
Booney wrote:Dogs64 wrote:Booney wrote:"You’re all not true supporters. Nothing to do with our coach. We played we take responsibility for it, it’s not acceptable. If your not willing to support us through this you shouldn’t support us. But don’t try blame it on one person."
This is the dumbest thing anyone at a football club can say.
Why? I agree, a supporter not a barracker (or band waggoner) supports through the tough times as well as the good. Even if we have our worst team. Did you still follow the Port Magpies in 2000 to 2014 when they were mediocre and unsuccessful, before Port Power took them over?
All he was saying is don't blame the coach, the players take responsibility it's not acceptable, good on him.
Why? He's telling people if they don't want to support them now they shouldn't at all and he's been at the club what, 2 years? These people ( may or may not, granted ) have probably got generations of Centrals blood running in them and are frustrated where their once mighty club is at and he blows in and takes offence at some Facebook posts (of all places to do it) when the club gets thumped by 15 goals! You think it's a good idea?
Absolutely I have supported the Port Adelaide Football Club through thick and thin, more thick than thin in my time but no SANFL flag since 1999 and no AFL since 2004 and here I am, loud and proud. If, as I do now, think Hinkley should be moved on at the end of the year and voice that opinion only to have a second year recruit tell me I should move on if I don't want to support them I'd be telling him just how it is, sure as hell wouldn't be thanking him for telling me to f*ck off.
by gazzamagoo » Mon May 09, 2022 6:13 pm
whufc wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:Dogs64 wrote:whufc wrote:PS. saw Aiden Grace comments......what a wanker.
His been at the club two minutes and thinks he can tell the fans there not true supporters. Most of those blokes posting did it tough for 30 odd years before our first premiership and they haven't seen a worse side than the current one. Him telling the fans 'you're all not true supporters' is bloody rich.
And now we have Paul Thomas responding to posts as well but not really in a constructive manner. Surely his been in the game long enough to know that when results like this year happen people are going to ask questions or be critical. To be fair the comments aren't even that bad other than 'the team has gone backwards', 'is Thomas the right man', 'Thommo isn't the right man'. I wouldn't call them completely unfair comments given the circumstances.
Aiden Grace, was supporting the coach and taking responsibility for the performance. "Nothing to do with our coach", "we played we take responsibility for it, it's not acceptable", "But don't try to blame it on one person". Again, I say good on him. As a player he understands it's not acceptable but don't blame the coach, pretty simple. I'm assuming his comments weren't necessarily directed at your selected quotes but maybe the three individuals that wrote 1) "Paul Thomas must resign immediately. You have failed", 2) We need a complete review and new leadership starting with the coach" and 3) "Time for the coach to go." If these three are supporters, they're entitled to their opinion, despite how wrong it would seem to many, including the players. They sound like those Richmond or Melbourne supporters that wanted to get rid of Hardwick or Goodwin early on. He's about 6 games into his second season, with an average squad, I wish the answer were as simple as removing the coach at this early stage but I'm not that naïve.
Love his passion, should be more of it!
He said "I believe wins will come & so does Thommo.
I have belief in him as a coach and trust him with anything.
I couldn't help myself and I can't stand people blaming Thommo."
Probably shouldn't bitten but he's certainly got his heart in the right place.
by whufc » Mon May 09, 2022 6:56 pm
by bulldogproud » Mon May 09, 2022 7:35 pm
am Bays wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:Personally I LOVE the interaction! It shows that the players are fair dunkum & are fired Up! It just might get them over the line next match!
I think Aiden was calling the "supporters" that constantly put the players & club down not true supporters & he's 100% correct!
The ones that criticise all the time probably aren't even paid up members!
Have Centrals imploded???
by bulldogproud » Mon May 09, 2022 7:44 pm
gazzamagoo wrote:Hazydog wrote:Maybe don’t hold the mortgage but we have a decent share of it!
All I’m trying to articulate is that Dogs fans might be losing a bit of perspective. Some seem to forget that we were mighty relived just to win a final after a 20 odd year drought .. let alone allow ourselves the luxury of thinking we could win that one flag that would send us all to our grave happy.
Expectations obviously higher nowadays..
I'm happy because, after years of crap footy & crap thrown at us from other supporters, I witnessed 9 premierships.
I'm lucky now in that I have other interests,
footy ain't the be all and end all & I'm not going to have a stroke over footy.
But it is a flaw in your character if you need to constantly criticise and berate,
it gets you nowhere at all, try being constructive!
Put a smile on your dial!
by wedgetail » Mon May 09, 2022 10:13 pm
whufc wrote:Want constructive
One thing I’ve observed since moving up to the Mid North is the Eagles (who I consider the on field benchmark over the last ten years) willingness to bring in ‘outsiders’ into their club.
Off the top of my head, Jade Sheedy, Brian Hairada, Daniel Schell, Corey Ah Chee have all been involved in the Eagles over the last heap of years in various roles. All quality football brains whose previous clubs didn’t impact on them having a role
I look at our club and see the bloke hired to coach the league team presumably the man for the job, the best candidate not allowed to bring in his people because ‘club legends’ would be out of gig.
I think we need a massive shift and be open to new ideas from other clubs. Hopefully Edwards is the first step in that but it has to happen right from the top down to the junior development officers, coaches.
Just an observation.
by northerner » Tue May 10, 2022 7:01 am
by whufc » Tue May 10, 2022 7:13 am
by am Bays » Tue May 10, 2022 9:22 am
by whufc » Tue May 10, 2022 9:23 am
am Bays wrote:This is better than The Roost in its heyday 15 years ago
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