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Coulter and Ivens get two games

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:22 am
by am Bays
Admitedly it was the Thursday day before the game 1 but two games for three hour dinking session between end of training thursday and 12:00 midnight last thursday when the pubs shut at Midnight for Good Friday?

One would have thought the one game and a private censure behind closed doors at Menzies Cres would have dealt with this nicely.....but two games, fine and Ivens stripped of his DVC???

Anyone else get the feeling a sledge hammer has been used to smash a peanut on this one???

IMHO Westies did it better on this occasion for two similar, blokes were dropped for ill-discipline, no further comment, everything kept relatively in house.

I also thought the Monday article in the paper was over the top, all about Coulter and and Ivens nothing about Centrals beating North, at least that was all I saw on Adelaide Now. Don't know who was at fault there Doug Robertson, his subby or the person he interviewed.

The article below for those who haven't seen it.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,21536504-21546,00.html

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:28 am
by Coorong
I am truly staggered by the penalties. Unless there is more to it than we are told, has the potential to cause a real rift amongst both supporters and players.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:47 am
by Dogwatcher
That's nuts. Maybe there is more to this story....

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:42 am
by Chook
Guys,

Wether there is anything more to this story or not. I am thinking the boys have gone out and had a good night and someone has seen them and let the club know.

I think it is a disgrace the way the club has handled it. I don't know the boys, but surely, two good mates who are celebrating a marriage can head out and have a few drinks.

Does everyone regard the SANFL as high as AFL, cos this is the way its going with fines and penalties stripping of captaincy.

Surely if any player rocks up to training and the game 100% fit and ready to pay, it shouldn't matter what they do.

Furthermore, I agree that it should have been dealt with in house. If they broke a team rule by heading out, then don't tell the world about it, and just punish them so they don't so it again, not make fools of them.

I think the way this has been handled was all wrong from the start!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:46 am
by Rushby Hinds
Oh the irony!

I wonder if any selected passages detailling boys will be boys/harmless fun incidents from "Jarman Magic" will be hi-lighted and stuck up on the notice board @ the North change rooms?

Night in a lock up anyone?

Dring Driving perhaps?

Also i wonder whether the fitness and discipline rules apply to the coaching panel as well?

Re: Coulter and Ivens get two games

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:25 am
by Jimmy
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Admitedly it was the Thursday day before the game 1 but two games for three hour dinking session between end of training thursday and 12:00 midnight last thursday when the pubs shut at Midnight for Good Friday?

One would have thought the one game and a private censure behind closed doors at Menzies Cres would have dealt with this nicely.....but two games, fine and Ivens stripped of his DVC???

Anyone else get the feeling a sledge hammer has been used to smash a peanut on this one???

IMHO Westies did it better on this occasion for two similar, blokes were dropped for ill-discipline, no further comment, everything kept relatively in house.

I also thought the Monday article in the paper was over the top, all about Coulter and and Ivens nothing about Centrals beating North, at least that was all I saw on Adelaide Now. Don't know who was at fault there Doug Robertson, his subby or the person he interviewed.

The article below for those who haven't seen it.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,21536504-21546,00.html


tassie...usually the monday article focuses on an issue or two arising from the game or something like that while sundays article is a review of the game itself....true, those two didnt play in the game but that seems the tack doug has gone this time....i sometimes find it annoying when the monday article doesnt mention my team etc....just another tightening of the screws due to afl coverage i reckon.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:26 am
by Jimmy
also, the penalty on ivens does seem a bit much if all he did was have a few drinks...then again, there maybe more to it....hmmm, any north fans in the know care to elaborate if they can????

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:45 am
by Rushby Hinds
Someone told me last night that the rumour was that one of the very regular posters on this site may have been the dobber innerer!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:49 am
by am Bays
I think that has been strenuously denied by that person Borat, if you and I are thinking of the same person.

FWIW I would be very surprised if that was the case, not something I thought that prominant poster on this site would ever do, i.e dob on his own.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:53 am
by Pag
Can Jarman fine Coulter for getting married too? Maybe he should play magoos all year for having a honeymoon as well?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:03 pm
by Dogwatcher
Yeah, how dare he get married during football season! And how dare he celebrate his impending marriage with his mate.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:14 pm
by whufc
Knowing Coulter from his time at Central quite well when he goes out on the piss it normally ends up very very messy. I can guarenteee this is not the first time in his SANFL career he has missed games due to clubs disciplining him for alcohol related issues.

This was the main contributor to him leaving Central. The club felt he was a major factor to Quinno Graham's off field problems he was having around the time. Something had to give and the club felt Graham had more to offer on-field therefore the club didn't interfere in Coulter's negoiations with the Roosters.

I think most Central supporters are surprised how long it has taken for this to rise again and in a way feel that North is more hampered by Luke Ivens been involved, reportedly one of the most dedicated footballers in the SANFL.

Hopefully Ivens and Coulter don't strike up a partnership like Quinno and Joshy once had, they were absolute nutters.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:49 pm
by Jimmy
whufc wrote:Knowing Coulter from his time at Central quite well when he goes out on the piss it normally ends up very very messy. I can guarenteee this is not the first time in his SANFL career he has missed games due to clubs disciplining him for alcohol related issues.

This was the main contributor to him leaving Central. The club felt he was a major factor to Quinno Graham's off field problems he was having around the time. Something had to give and the club felt Graham had more to offer on-field therefore the club didn't interfere in Coulter's negoiations with the Roosters.

I think most Central supporters are surprised how long it has taken for this to rise again and in a way feel that North is more hampered by Luke Ivens been involved, reportedly one of the most dedicated footballers in the SANFL.

Hopefully Ivens and Coulter don't strike up a partnership like Quinno and Joshy once had, they were absolute nutters.


luke and josh are very good mates. worked with luke at kelly sports, absolute top bloke and very nice guy. I hope he plays 250 sanfl games.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:35 pm
by Hondo
It smacks of there being more to it than just the Thursday night incident .... maybe some warnings have been given and ignored and the club feels the guys just aren't getting the hint?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:00 pm
by Chook
rumours are from a reliable source is that the boys were out having a couple of quiet ones and were home well before midnight.

I hear the rules are that players are not allowed out during the week.

This begs the question, was the penalty too harsh. I would have to say yes.

In house discipline should prevail with the boys not playing for a week. But Jars and the media has completely blown it out of proportion!

Being a roosters fan, I am pretty dissapointed in how North have handle it compaired with West.

Not sure if anyone agrees??

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:11 pm
by Coorong
And who was it that made a call to the Dog Kennel on friday night to tell em the news?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:36 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
i think the penalty was a little over the top given he was getting married in the very near future, and wanted to have a few bevvies to celebrate it.

i mean there is a former glenelg player who moved to norwood who used to be out drinking at 6am on a saturday morning before a game!!!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:39 pm
by Dogwatcher
Coorong wrote:And who was it that made a call to the Dog Kennel on friday night to tell em the news?


Hmmmm, apparently Roy knew pretty early in the piece about it.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:47 pm
by mal
Young men doing young mens things.
Been happening for a long long time
Clubs making a point
I think unless they are repeat offenders give thems a break

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:47 pm
by Coorong
Dogwatcher wrote:
Coorong wrote:And who was it that made a call to the Dog Kennel on friday night to tell em the news?


Hmmmm, apparently Roy knew pretty early in the piece about it.


Maybe a mate and disgruntled player who was recently "shown the door" ***** alledegedly* just happened to have the number in his cell phone