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South going back to the 70’s...the 1870’s

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:18 am
by Scoop
Replica of Inaugural SANFL Premiership Jumper to be worn during SA History Week

The History Trust of South Australia is running SA History Week from May 18 to 27 and to recognise 130years of wearing the “Blue & White”, the South Adelaide Football Club will don a replica guernsey from 1877 when they take on Glenelg at Hickinbotham Oval on Sunday May 20th.

1877 was the first year of an organised football competition in South Australia, South Adelaide one of eight clubs involved including Port, Kensington, Woodville, Bankers, South Park, Adelaide and Victorian.

South won that inaugural 1877 premiership playing 13 matches, winning 10, drawing 2 and losing just once. Over the course of those 13 games, the team scored 23 goals, conceding just one for the entire season. Early team photos show a wide range of uniforms being worn across the team, all navy blue but with a variety in the extent of white worn around the collar and shoulders, the design selected one of those worn by a few players in the squad.

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Other activities on the day include:

    The CC Kingston Foyer - check out the history of both the club & one of Australia’s founding fathers.
    Flyers on “Football in the 1870’s”
    Free Jumping Castle for the Kids
    Southgate Holden Super Goal competition, kick with a chance to win $1,000
    Best Car Park in the SANFL, park & watch just metres from the action.
    Club South Presidents Lunch - $38 for 3 course lunch, drinks & special guest interview Peter Darley.
    South and Glenelg in the Southern Derby battling for the Carey – Darley Cup


Reserves commences at 11:15am, the League at 2:00pm.
Many of the jumpers will be available for auction purchase on e-bay in the week after the game.

For more information:
About South Adelaide History Day – Contact SAFC Marketing Manager Phil Herden on 8186 8200
About SA History Week – Phone 8203 9888 or goto http://www.history.sa.gov.au

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:22 am
by mighty_tiger_79
why not sell some of the jumpers through the club after the game.

I think the jumper looks good.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:33 am
by HeartBeatsTrue
Nice guernsey, nice alternative and could be used as an away strip.

But does anyone else think its ridiculous having 5 businesses advertised on a "heritage" jumper? Did Matrix home loans, Southgate Holden, Centro Colonnades, Vili's and JAX all exist in 1877? I'm all for celebrating your heritage, particularly South as they have kept their original colours, but having so many sponsors on a heritage guernsey tarnishes it a bit.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:49 am
by Dissident
HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Nice guernsey, nice alternative and could be used as an away strip.

But does anyone else think its ridiculous having 5 businesses advertised on a "heritage" jumper? Did Matrix home loans, Southgate Holden, Centro Colonnades, Vili's and JAX all exist in 1877? I'm all for celebrating your heritage, particularly South as they have kept their original colours, but having so many sponsors on a heritage guernsey tarnishes it a bit.


As much as I agree with you HBT.. there's another side to it, with the sponsors.
You'd be surprised how tight the contracts are with names on things.

Let's say I own a company an dI pay $50000 a year to have my business name appear 23 times at 23 games. That's over $2100 per game I've paid for my name to appear.

Suddenly, a new jumper is made for a game and they want to take my name off? Hold on, I paid my $50k, my jumper appears 23 times, not 22.


Again - I do agree with you BUT the businesses also have to be taken into consideration.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:53 am
by mighty_tiger_79
Dissident wrote:
HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Nice guernsey, nice alternative and could be used as an away strip.

But does anyone else think its ridiculous having 5 businesses advertised on a "heritage" jumper? Did Matrix home loans, Southgate Holden, Centro Colonnades, Vili's and JAX all exist in 1877? I'm all for celebrating your heritage, particularly South as they have kept their original colours, but having so many sponsors on a heritage guernsey tarnishes it a bit.


As much as I agree with you HBT.. there's another side to it, with the sponsors.
You'd be surprised how tight the contracts are with names on things.

Let's say I own a company an dI pay $50000 a year to have my business name appear 23 times at 23 games. That's over $2100 per game I've paid for my name to appear.

Suddenly, a new jumper is made for a game and they want to take my name off? Hold on, I paid my $50k, my jumper appears 23 times, not 22.


Again - I do agree with you BUT the businesses also have to be taken into consideration.


maybe the club needs to look at another way to compensate sponsors in this scenario.......

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:01 pm
by Leaping Lindner
Kudos to the South marketing department - very nice work. It's always good to see club's embracing their history. =D>

Are the activities on the day going to include a Charles Kingston duelling competition? :lol:

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:37 pm
by HeartBeatsTrue
Dissident wrote:
HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Nice guernsey, nice alternative and could be used as an away strip.

But does anyone else think its ridiculous having 5 businesses advertised on a "heritage" jumper? Did Matrix home loans, Southgate Holden, Centro Colonnades, Vili's and JAX all exist in 1877? I'm all for celebrating your heritage, particularly South as they have kept their original colours, but having so many sponsors on a heritage guernsey tarnishes it a bit.


As much as I agree with you HBT.. there's another side to it, with the sponsors.
You'd be surprised how tight the contracts are with names on things.

Let's say I own a company an dI pay $50000 a year to have my business name appear 23 times at 23 games. That's over $2100 per game I've paid for my name to appear.

Suddenly, a new jumper is made for a game and they want to take my name off? Hold on, I paid my $50k, my jumper appears 23 times, not 22.


Again - I do agree with you BUT the businesses also have to be taken into consideration.


I understand that, maybe the SANFL should put a restriction on guernsey sponsors for the entire season. South look like a walking billboard and if the legs adopted the same I would be disappointed also. Surely that's enough, with oval naming rights, signage etc. Are South able to get one guernsey sponsor that can cover the loss of the others? Or are there not enough large companies in Adelaide?

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:04 pm
by Rik E Boy
A lot better than that Carlton strip.....

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:09 pm
by Aerie
The sponsorship on all guernsey's in the SANFL is ugly. Way too much signage all over the guernsey's. In this case I wish the SANFL took the AFL's stance of limiting where the signage can be displayed.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:15 pm
by Dogsbody
I like it... I wouldn't mind having an unworn one if I could get the siggies of the team that wears it.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:59 pm
by Wedgie
Great guernsey, well done South, very impressed with some of the stuff going on off the field down there.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:00 pm
by Hondo
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:maybe the club needs to look at another way to compensate sponsors in this scenario.......


Why? It's just an alternative guernsey no need to treat it like the holy grail.

Heritage guernseys attract more media coverage than normal so of course you put as many sponsors as you can on it. Too often people have a go at SANFL clubs trying to raise funds and I don't understand it.

Good one Panthers, nice work

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:04 pm
by Wedgie
hondo71 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:maybe the club needs to look at another way to compensate sponsors in this scenario.......


Why? It's just an alternative guernsey no need to treat it like the holy grail.

Heritage guernseys attract more media coverage than normal so of course you put as many sponsors as you can on it. Too often people have a go at SANFL clubs trying to raise funds and I don't understand it.

Good one Panthers, nice work


Dunno about that one, North have managed to keep their sponsor off their heritage guernseys off the past when sponsors didn't exist on guernseys, I assume that will change this year when we wear the candy stripe as sponsors were around in those days.

I agree some SANFL guernseys have shocking efforts of sponsors on them contrasting terribly with the guernsey but doing what the sponsor would want in standing out, its one of the few areas we can learn off the AFL.

Re: South going back to the 70’s...the 1870’s

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:34 pm
by doggies4eva
Scoop wrote:Replica of Inaugural SANFL Premiership Jumper to be worn during SA History Week

1877 was the first year of an organised football competition in South Australia, South Adelaide one of eight clubs involved including Port, Kensington, Woodville, Bankers, South Park, Adelaide and Victorian.



South Park!

Re: South going back to the 70’s...the 1870’s

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:45 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
doggies4eva wrote:
Scoop wrote:Replica of Inaugural SANFL Premiership Jumper to be worn during SA History Week

1877 was the first year of an organised football competition in South Australia, South Adelaide one of eight clubs involved including Port, Kensington, Woodville, Bankers, South Park, Adelaide and Victorian.



South Park!


I BELIEVE the clubrooms are on the corner of west tce and sth tce

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:13 pm
by Hondo
Wedgie wrote:
hondo71 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:maybe the club needs to look at another way to compensate sponsors in this scenario.......


Why? It's just an alternative guernsey no need to treat it like the holy grail.

Heritage guernseys attract more media coverage than normal so of course you put as many sponsors as you can on it. Too often people have a go at SANFL clubs trying to raise funds and I don't understand it.

Good one Panthers, nice work


Dunno about that one, North have managed to keep their sponsor off their heritage guernseys off the past when sponsors didn't exist on guernseys, I assume that will change this year when we wear the candy stripe as sponsors were around in those days.

I agree some SANFL guernseys have shocking efforts of sponsors on them contrasting terribly with the guernsey but doing what the sponsor would want in standing out, its one of the few areas we can learn off the AFL.


North arguably have a more long-term, generous sponsor who maybe doesn't mind giving up the logo for 1 game. Correct me if I am wrong there, you would know better than I. Are you trying to say logos don't stand out or clash on the AFL guernseys BTW? Scott's red tag is pretty obvious on the Power outfit. Even Eddie has allowed a red logo on the back of the sacred black & white.

Regardless of all that, I stand by my comment, don't knock SANFL clubs for looking at ways of raising funds. We all know they need it. I don't think a logo on a heritage guernsey is 'selling out'. It's not a replica guernsey otherwise it would be made of canvas and have a lace-up.

Re: South going back to the 70’s...the 1870’s

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:13 pm
by RustyCage
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:
Scoop wrote:Replica of Inaugural SANFL Premiership Jumper to be worn during SA History Week

1877 was the first year of an organised football competition in South Australia, South Adelaide one of eight clubs involved including Port, Kensington, Woodville, Bankers, South Park, Adelaide and Victorian.



South Park!


I BELIEVE the clubrooms are on the corner of west tce and sth tce


And from what Ive read the Adelaide clubrooms were where the Barr Smith Library at the Adelaide Uni is now, and if what I read is true, the club moved from there to the corner of Nth Tce and Dequetivlle Tce, where the Thorndon Park Resivour pump is (across the road from the Wine Centre), but until I reread the old newspaper article I had, dont quote me.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:59 pm
by Wedgie
hondo71 wrote: Are you trying to say logos don't stand out or clash on the AFL guernseys BTW? Scott's red tag is pretty obvious on the Power outfit. Even Eddie has allowed a red logo on the back of the sacred black & white.

I wasn't clear but I meant that they just have a small sponsors logo on their left breasts where SANFL clubs have huge sponsors logo going over the entire chest of each player.
There's also only 1 sponsor on AFL backs where there can be 2 on SANFL guernseys.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:10 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
hondo71 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:maybe the club needs to look at another way to compensate sponsors in this scenario.......


Why? It's just an alternative guernsey no need to treat it like the holy grail.

Heritage guernseys attract more media coverage than normal so of course you put as many sponsors as you can on it. Too often people have a go at SANFL clubs trying to raise funds and I don't understand it.

Good one Panthers, nice work


i was responding to HEARTSBEATSTRUE and DISS comments directly above mine, in which sponsors were being discussed, and i just thought that if the club wanted to do a heritage round and keep sponsors off it, maybe re-imburse the jumper sponsors in another manner....

I didnt think it was an alternative guernsey but a replica of the one they wore to their first flag..

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:19 pm
by Hondo
Wedgie wrote:
hondo71 wrote: Are you trying to say logos don't stand out or clash on the AFL guernseys BTW? Scott's red tag is pretty obvious on the Power outfit. Even Eddie has allowed a red logo on the back of the sacred black & white.

I wasn't clear but I meant that they just have a small sponsors logo on their left breasts where SANFL clubs have huge sponsors logo going over the entire chest of each player.
There's also only 1 sponsor on AFL backs where there can be 2 on SANFL guernseys.


Yes, fair enough