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PAP smears in prison bars

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:15 pm
by Pseudo
Just wondering what the Magpies fans think about the PAPs planning to line up in the prison bars jumper. If I was a Port fan (God forbid) I'd be annoyed at having those johnny-come-latelys in my team's jumper.

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:30 pm
by Footy Chick
AGREED...

Mixed emotions really... how dare they try and wear a "real" Port jumper.. you cant have heritage when your 10 years old... :evil:

on the other hand...

If it pisses Collingwood off... why not?? :wink:

next question

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:48 pm
by redden whites
Is the jumper going to have actual holes to make it look a lace-up or fake ones to make it look like a lace up even though its not........Can anyone tell me what the hell is up with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: PAP smears in prison bars

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:44 pm
by eaglehaslanded
Pseudo wrote:Just wondering what the Magpies fans think about the PAPs planning to line up in the prison bars jumper. If I was a Port fan (God forbid) I'd be annoyed at having those johnny-come-latelys in my team's jumper.


let's respect the Powers heritage. F#*@ knows I can't stand them or the Magpies but let's face it they were born from the Port Adelaide Magpies club unlike the Crows who were born to represent the SANFL as a whole so as a neutral supporter I feel they have every right to wear the black & white prison bars. Afterall it is back to the 70's for god sake what did Port wear in the 70's it was the blsck & white prison bar strip.

Re: PAP smears in prison bars

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:48 pm
by BPBRB
eaglehaslanded wrote:
Pseudo wrote:Just wondering what the Magpies fans think about the PAPs planning to line up in the prison bars jumper. If I was a Port fan (God forbid) I'd be annoyed at having those johnny-come-latelys in my team's jumper.


let's respect the Powers heritage. F#*@ knows I can't stand them or the Magpies but let's face it they were born from the Port Adelaide Magpies club unlike the Crows who were born to represent the SANFL as a whole so as a neutral supporter I feel they have every right to wear the black & white prison bars. Afterall it is back to the 70's for god sake what did Port wear in the 70's it was the blsck & white prison bar strip.


Well said eaglesHL and in this case Port have every right to insist on wearing it no matter who you follow. I still can't see the logic of some of the final agreement conditions from what I read. They can possibly wear it again in future heritage rounds but only at home but only if the opponent is not Collingwood. Does it matter if they wear it "away" if they are not playing Collingwood FFS??? :shock:

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:58 pm
by Il Duce
I Think that Power should were there own heratige jumper they have had 10 jumpers in 11 years. 1 should be able to be used as a heratige jumper. they dont need to were our black and white prison bars.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:05 am
by therisingblues
eaglehaslanded wrote:let's respect the Powers heritage. F#*@ knows I can't stand them or the Magpies but let's face it they were born from the Port Adelaide Magpies club unlike the Crows who were born to represent the SANFL as a whole so as a neutral supporter I feel they have every right to wear the black & white prison bars. Afterall it is back to the 70's for god sake what did Port wear in the 70's it was the blsck & white prison bar strip.


I agree with EHL. The Victorian representative teams in the AFL are the traditional clubs that made up the old VFL, which IMO was the Victorian equivalent to the old SANFL. It shits me that just because Port come from SA they have to observe a heap of clauses to satisfy a Vic club, based purely on where they came from. When Port were denied their Magpie guernsey in the AFL, I took it as a snub to all SANFL clubs.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:51 am
by Punk Rooster
therisingblues wrote: When Port were denied their Magpie guernsey in the AFL, I took it as a snub to all SANFL clubs.
*sigh*
When Port Adelaide signalled their intention to join the AFL, there was already a Black & White team called the Magpies, who quite rightly objected.
Therefore, Port were required to come up with an alternate nickname & colours if they wanted to join, & as they still wanted to join after those conditions were placed, they came up with the alternate "Port Power" & a jumper consisting of black, teal, white & silver (although silver was no immediately introduced).

Perhaps theri you should take it as a snub that Port wished to turn it's back on the SANFL- not the AFL for insisting the conditions they joined under are upheld....

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:25 am
by Hondo
It's irrelevant that the team is now nick-named the Power and have teal in the colours. The heritage of the PAFC is the B&W prison bars and it's heritage round. Throw the standard guernseys (and sometimes the colours) out and have some fun with it.

FGS, West Coast are wearing the original WA State-of-Origin jumper. It's black and gold .... not their original colours ..... it's Richmond's colours .... West Coast agreed to not use the traditional state colours when they joined ..... yawn .... yawn .... yawn .....

Heritage round is a nostalgic throw-back - one for the fans. Everyone take a chill pill about it, including Eddie.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:31 am
by Punk Rooster
hondo71 wrote:It's irrelevant that the team is now nick-named the Power and have teal in the colours. The heritage of the PAFC is the B&W prison bars and it's heritage round. Throw the standard guernseys (and sometimes the colours) out and have some fun with it.

FGS, West Coast are wearing the original WA State-of-Origin jumper. It's black and gold .... not their original colours ..... it's Richmond's colours .... West Coast agreed to not use the traditional state colours when they joined ..... yawn .... yawn .... yawn .....

Heritage round is a nostalgic throw-back - one for the fans. Everyone take a chill pill about it, including Eddie.
they are wearing the PAM jumper for heritage round- what's the problem?

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:40 am
by Hondo
Punk Rooster wrote:Perhaps theri you should take it as a snub that Port wished to turn it's back on the SANFL- not the AFL for insisting the conditions they joined under are upheld....


Punk Rooster wrote:they are wearing the PAM jumper for heritage round - what's the problem?


You tell me

Re: PAP smears in prison bars

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:42 am
by Punk Rooster
hondo71 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Perhaps theri you should take it as a snub that Port wished to turn it's back on the SANFL- not the AFL for insisting the conditions they joined under are upheld....


Punk Rooster wrote:they are wearing the PAM jumper for heritage round - what's the problem?


You tell me
you're quoting me out of context- my original reply is directed at a statement made by therisingblues.
To get the correct meaning of my response, you need to read it in conjunction with his original post.
cheers

Re: PAP smears in prison bars

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:03 am
by rod_rooster
Punk Rooster wrote:
therisingblues wrote: When Port were denied their Magpie guernsey in the AFL, I took it as a snub to all SANFL clubs.
*sigh*
When Port Adelaide signalled their intention to join the AFL, there was already a Black & White team called the Magpies, who quite rightly objected.
Therefore, Port were required to come up with an alternate nickname & colours if they wanted to join, & as they still wanted to join after those conditions were placed, they came up with the alternate "Port Power" & a jumper consisting of black, teal, white & silver (although silver was no immediately introduced).

Perhaps theri you should take it as a snub that Port wished to turn it's back on the SANFL- not the AFL for insisting the conditions they joined under are upheld....


I understand there was already a team nicknamed the Magpies. Fair enough Port had to come up with another nickname. If Port wanted to wear the Collingood jumper (and god only knows why anyone would want to wear the current abomination they mascaraed around in) then i can inderstand Collingwood objecting. If Port wanted to wear Black and White against Collingwood i can also understand Collingwood's issue. I can't, however, work out the reason why Collingwood care if Port wear the prison bar guernsey whenever they like. So what if it is the same colours the design is completely different. As has been pointed out no other club has such insecurities as to not allow another to wear the same colurs providing they have a different design. I really hate sticking up for Port but i can't help but feel Collingwood have some sort of inferiority complex as to insist no other club wears Black and White.

Personally i'd like to See Port wear the prison bars every week just so there is the chance to see that guernsey lose.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:27 am
by Barto
They'd better wear mullet wigs if they want authenticity.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:18 am
by Booney
Bloody hell Punky,get over it.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:02 pm
by Punk Rooster
Booney wrote:Bloody hell Punky,get over it.
sorry for posting on topic & using facts/defending my posts...

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:33 pm
by doggies4eva
rod_rooster wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:
therisingblues wrote: When Port were denied their Magpie guernsey in the AFL, I took it as a snub to all SANFL clubs.
*sigh*
When Port Adelaide signalled their intention to join the AFL, there was already a Black & White team called the Magpies, who quite rightly objected.
Therefore, Port were required to come up with an alternate nickname & colours if they wanted to join, & as they still wanted to join after those conditions were placed, they came up with the alternate "Port Power" & a jumper consisting of black, teal, white & silver (although silver was no immediately introduced).

Perhaps theri you should take it as a snub that Port wished to turn it's back on the SANFL- not the AFL for insisting the conditions they joined under are upheld....


I understand there was already a team nicknamed the Magpies. Fair enough Port had to come up with another nickname. If Port wanted to wear the Collingood jumper (and god only knows why anyone would want to wear the current abomination they mascaraed around in) then i can inderstand Collingwood objecting. If Port wanted to wear Black and White against Collingwood i can also understand Collingwood's issue. I can't, however, work out the reason why Collingwood care if Port wear the prison bar guernsey whenever they like. So what if it is the same colours the design is completely different. As has been pointed out no other club has such insecurities as to not allow another to wear the same colurs providing they have a different design. I really hate sticking up for Port but i can't help but feel Collingwood have some sort of inferiority complex as to insist no other club wears Black and White.

Personally i'd like to See Port wear the prison bars every week just so there is the chance to see that guernsey lose.


So you say that Port player wear mascara? Life is a masquerade old chum :lol:

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:35 pm
by doggies4eva
Punk Rooster wrote:
Booney wrote:Bloody hell Punky,get over it.
sorry for posting on topic & using facts/defending my posts...


Apology accepted. Please read the thread "Rules for this site" which states how many posts are allowed before the thread must go off topic. [-X

Re: PAP smears in prison bars

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:52 pm
by therisingblues
Punk Rooster wrote:
therisingblues wrote: When Port were denied their Magpie guernsey in the AFL, I took it as a snub to all SANFL clubs.
*sigh*
When Port Adelaide signalled their intention to join the AFL, there was already a Black & White team called the Magpies, who quite rightly objected.
Therefore, Port were required to come up with an alternate nickname & colours if they wanted to join, & as they still wanted to join after those conditions were placed, they came up with the alternate "Port Power" & a jumper consisting of black, teal, white & silver (although silver was no immediately introduced).

Perhaps theri you should take it as a snub that Port wished to turn it's back on the SANFL- not the AFL for insisting the conditions they joined under are upheld....


And how many teams wear Blue and White? No problem there.
Weren't the Crows colours the same as the Fitzroy Lions when they joined? What is it with Collingwood?
And I am not takng it as a snub that those conditions were upheld, but rather, those conditions were introduced in the first place.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:47 pm
by Punk Rooster
therisingblues wrote:And how many teams wear Blue and White? No problem there.
something the VFL/clubs at the time failed to address correctly (imo)
therisingblues wrote:Weren't the Crows colours the same as the Fitzroy Lions when they joined? What is it with Collingwood?
did Fitzroy object? No. Hence the AFL had no need to act- also, the Crows weren't trying to call themselves the Lions either.
therisingblues wrote:And I am not taking it as a snub that those conditions were upheld, but rather, those conditions were introduced in the first place.
Collingwood were within their rights to protect their image in a world exceedingly corporatised.
Again, Port joined the AFL knowing they could not wear Black & White & be known as the Magpies- end of story.