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Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Wedgie » Tue May 29, 2007 5:10 pm

PORT v NORTH
2.15pm Saturday June 2nd @ Alberton Oval
1907-2007 Record :
Played 244, Port won 165, North won 79
1907-2007 @ Alberton : Played 89, Port won 62, North won 27
All Recent Encounters : North have won 7 of the last 8
Recent @ Alberton : North won the last 3, Port the previous 5

Recent Results
2006 Rd 23 Sept 7 @ Adelaide North 20.16.136 d Port 16.6.102 by 34pts
2006 Rd 16 July 22 @ Alberton North 22.14.146 d Port 11.8.74 by 82pts
2006 Rd 7 May 13 @ Prospect North 17.13.115 d Port 14.7.91 by 24pts
2005 Rd 16 July 17 @ Alberton North 16.13.109 d Port 11.11.77 by 32pts
2005 Rd 5 April 23 @ Prospect Port 14.14.98 d North 12.12.84 by 14pts

Last Draw – Never Drawn

RECORDS NORTH PORT
Highest Score North - 25.14.164 (Rd 16 July17 1982 @FP) Port - 29.21.195 (Rd 5 Apr 29 1978 @Al)
Lowest Score North -1.8.14 (2 times, last GF 1989) Port 1.6 12(GF 1905)
Highest Losing Score North - 19.13.127 (Rd 9 May 26 1984 @Al) Port - 21.10.136 (Rd 15 Aug22 1936 @Al)
Lowest Winning Score North - 5.8.38 (Rd 2 May 10 1919 @Ad) Port - 5.7.37 (Rd 12 June28 1919 @Al)
Biggest Winning Margin North - 83pts (Rd 6 May 8 1971 @Pr) Port - 130pts (Rd 5 Apr29 1978 @Al)

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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Dog_ger » Tue May 29, 2007 6:24 pm

How bad is the 2007 draw...!

Poor ROOSTERS
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Wedgie » Thu May 31, 2007 5:56 pm

North's team for Saturday:

F Gill M.Wundke Ladhams
HF Younie Alleway Krieg
C Ryswyk Wintle Bamford
HB Ivens Schubert Hart
FB Cubillo Gallman Sporn

Ruck O'Hara Howard Allan

I/C: (from) Wakelin, Delvins, Pfieffer, Kaesler, Campbell

In: Wintle, Delvins, M.Wundke, Pfieffer, Kaesler

Out:S.Motlop - Ankle, Kurzel, Cunningham
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby JK » Thu May 31, 2007 6:12 pm

Should be a cracker this game ... A North loss and it puts them under a little more pressure, a Port loss and they come right back to the pack ... Hard to see the Pies losing 3 at Alberton so early in the year, but North have a good recent record there.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Jar Man Out » Thu May 31, 2007 7:09 pm

Can Ben Hart play two games in a row ???

Ports tall forwards could pose some serious problems for Norths defence.Whilst Ahchee and Perry pose good match ups for Alleway and Gill. North made need Ladhams to kick a bag.

Kreig usually does a good job on J.Clayton. Ports midfield is down (apart from Summerton) so whether Wintle plays becomes very important.

North seem to have a gone a bit defensive this year. A point noted by a few of the rooster faithful. I wonder if Jars will stand by his "if my boys don't entertain me. Ive told them Im going home" statement . Or was that just for the first three years of his coaching.???
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Dutchy » Thu May 31, 2007 7:42 pm

Fari call MD....has Jars changed this year? for the better? to win a flag?
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby RoosterMarty » Thu May 31, 2007 9:06 pm

The defence has definitely improved, I would think Ben Hart has made a big difference. We played tougher man on man footy against Centrals for 2.5 quarters which we don't usually do in the past, we just have to do it for 4 quarters. We haven't started playing a more defensive game, I would like to know what you base that claim on? We still attack but we also have to try and play accountable footy if we are any chance of knocking off Centrals and the Eagles.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Jar Man Out » Thu May 31, 2007 9:30 pm

Jars has changed his game plan. Danger signs for a coach.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby redden whites » Thu May 31, 2007 9:40 pm

On Jars,I did think it was a bit wierd that he called for Alistair Clarkson and Ross Lyon to be suspended from the AFL for a week for the HFC v St.KFC style of game( on his ch10 drivel piece) then put a massive flood on himself verses the dogs 4 days later at Prospect. Central 1-1; North 0-1 at quarter time :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby BPBRB » Thu May 31, 2007 9:52 pm

redden whites wrote:On Jars,I did think it was a bit wierd that he called for Alistair Clarkson and Ross Lyon to be suspended from the AFL for a week for the HFC v St.KFC style of game( on his ch10 drivel piece) then put a massive flood on himself verses the dogs 4 days later at Prospect. Central 1-1; North 0-1 at quarter time :shock: :shock: :shock:


And Centrals didn't flood at any stage in the first half??? :shock:
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Wedgie » Thu May 31, 2007 9:58 pm

I didn't think either side flooded, I thought it was one of the best quarters (and halves) of footy I'd seen at SANFL for a long time. It wasn't a defensive game but the defensive pressure at all parts of the park was incredible (that should make sense to most).
And just on Jars subtleley changing his game plan, every coach changes his game plan week in week out, even in different quarters. Hardly a danger sign, anyone with one game plan for a season let alone a career wouldn't last even half of that season. If a coach came into the SANFL with one game plan and never changed it despite never winning a premiership that would be the smart thing to do? Why would you have new assistant coaches or why would you even bother having assistant coaches if you were never going to change a game plan from week to week, year to year or even from quarter to quarter?

To suggest a coach is showing danger sides because he's demonstrating some flexibility as all good coaches do is ridiculous to say the least.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Aerie » Thu May 31, 2007 10:19 pm

Wedgie wrote:I didn't think either side flooded, I thought it was one of the best quarters (and halves) of footy I'd seen at SANFL for a long time. It wasn't a defensive game but the defensive pressure at all parts of the park was incredible (that should make sense to most).
And just on Jars subtleley changing his game plan, every coach changes his game plan week in week out, even in different quarters. Hardly a danger sign, anyone with one game plan for a season let alone a career wouldn't last even half of that season. If a coach came into the SANFL with one game plan and never changed it despite never winning a premiership that would be the smart thing to do? Why would you have new assistant coaches or why would you even bother having assistant coaches if you were never going to change a game plan from week to week, year to year or even from quarter to quarter?

To suggest a coach is showing danger sides because he's demonstrating some flexibility as all good coaches do is ridiculous to say the least.


I saw most of the first quarter on tv and Central, at least, put on a massive flood. Every time North kicked into forward 50 there were at least 2 or 3 extra Central players.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby redden whites » Thu May 31, 2007 10:23 pm

BPBRB wrote:
redden whites wrote:


And Centrals didn't flood at any stage in the first half??? :shock:


Did not say they didn't !!
Numerous times 1 pair of players inside 50m zone with the ball down other the end and both sides did it especially in the first half.If that aint a flood what is????

I enjoyed and was encouraged by Norths performance in many areas after some previous hammerings at home .Unlike some doomsday posts on another site . I actually support the tactics used just not the bad-mouthing other coaches to fill in air-time.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby RoosterMarty » Thu May 31, 2007 10:26 pm

It was a low scoring first half but I thought it was great footy to watch as Wedgie said, it was tough footy and an enthralling contest. When you see a similar score in the AFL it is a boring game but I thought Saturday's first half was great.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Dog_ger » Thu May 31, 2007 10:36 pm

It's time Andrew Jarman and the North Adelaide Football club Stood Up for themselves...!

Only a win here is good enough..!

Anything less and resignations should be up coming.....
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:23 am

big game in regard to ladder position for the loser....

north should win with their record there and i reckon they may just be too good altho port look good on paper.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby THE CHIEF » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:10 am

Extra motivation for Port this weekend with the sad passing of Von Williams overnight.

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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Jar Man Out » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:38 am

Centrals the team that was 6-0 going into the game flooded not north a team with an under strength defence due to injury. Interesting theory boys not at all correct but interesting . jarman has been very critical of afl coaches playing possesion or tempo style footy. Now he is apart of it.

Couldnt disagree more with the rooster fans on this one. A slight change in tactics is one thing. But to change the teams game style is another. Worrying signs for Jars when doesnt hold enough conviction in his own game style.

Probably why ultimately he has been unsuccesful as a coach.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby Wedgie » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:53 am

mark ducker wrote:Centrals the team that was 6-0 going into the game flooded not north a team with an under strength defence due to injury. Interesting theory boys not at all correct but interesting . jarman has been very critical of afl coaches playing possesion or tempo style footy. Now he is apart of it.

Couldnt disagree more with the rooster fans on this one. A slight change in tactics is one thing. But to change the teams game style is another. Worrying signs for Jars when doesnt hold enough conviction in his own game style.

Probably why ultimately he has been unsuccesful as a coach.


But he hasn't significantly changed the game plan or style, that's the thing, have you been to every North game this year??
Their defense is set up different but that is because there is a new defence coach in Ben Hart. If you think that their style has changed then you have absolutely no idea about the game my friend.

But I will agree with you that Centrals didn't flood, neither team did, but Central did play more in the defensive half of centre but always had at least a couple of blokes forward, North similarly but had at least 4 or 5 always forward.
I suppose it depends on what you deem a "flood" is in football, I deem it as when at times you see all 18 players in the back half (or close to it) for large portions of the game, that didn't happen last week.
Glenelg always play players behind the ball but I wouldn't call it a flood nor would I if a ruckman was playing a kick behind the play, some people these days are a bit paranoid about the f word after the way it was used in the AFL.
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Re: Rd 9 2007 Port v North

Postby JK » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:00 am

mark ducker wrote:Centrals the team that was 6-0 going into the game flooded not north a team with an under strength defence due to injury. Interesting theory boys not at all correct but interesting . jarman has been very critical of afl coaches playing possesion or tempo style footy. Now he is apart of it.

Couldnt disagree more with the rooster fans on this one. A slight change in tactics is one thing. But to change the teams game style is another. Worrying signs for Jars when doesnt hold enough conviction in his own game style.

Probably why ultimately he has been unsuccesful as a coach.


I can understand why you say that MD, as at times it can be a sign of fragility and loss of belief from a coach ... However, in this instance I reckon Jars has seen that he's come up short in recent seasons and identified some area's that require(d) addressing ... Takes a strong leader to be open minded enough to adopt change, perhaps best to judge his performance at seasons end?
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