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well has the mental edge port had/has over most teams evaporated over the last few years ? i think it has

is it fair to say it only half affected us 10 days ago?

There intimidating style worked in previous decades but wont work in this generation

They haven't had a mental edge over anyone since Knights took over. Just another side. The Port Adelaide dynasty busted about the same time Central came along. There is no doubt in my mind Central are the new Port Adelaide (and that is said with intended respect!). Hopefully Central's dominance doesn't span the best part of two decades like Port's did and its more like Sturt of the late 60's (i.e. it's over now!).

I've long thought that anything Port had over the competition changed hands in the 2000 Qualifying Final.

spell_check wrote:I've long thought that anything Port had over the competition changed hands in the 2000 Qualifying Final.

Agreed, Spelly.
We smashed a lot of history with that 12 goal + win.

Then Sturt knocked them out in the semi. How many times have Port gone out in straight sets?

Still got the Brown/Geddes bump barto ?

Question here, has Port won a premiership in the past half century under any other coach than Cahill or Williams? I have been thinking recently that perhaps Port were just blessed with two master coaches having their careers run consecutively. Imagine if Oatey's career was followed up by as equal a coaching genius who held the reins at Unley for the following 25 years. During the time of Port's strangle hold over the SANFL, it appeared that there was something intrinsic about the Magpies that would ensure that they'd always be about the mark, now I am thinking that perhaps it had more to do with those two brilliant coaches than anything else I used to think about Port.

Wasn't that a ripper Smithy?

Was one of the hardest hits I've seen on a player.

One only has to remember back to that awful 5AA calling of that final between Port and the Eagles .It was all Port this and that and back in the old days Port Adelaide etc. The only people surprised with the result were the radio callers ie cunningham and ebert .

I agree with two things written earlier firstly Central has taken the mantle from Port Adelaide that can not be disputed .
The other being about the Coaches Cahill and Williams .But it should be pointed out that the Coach alone can not be the only answer here.
How many flags in the SANFL did the Coaching names Cahill/Williams produce outside of Port Adelaide ?

And in the AFL we all know that the name Williams has been the only one associated with an AFL Flag as a coach.

Oatey's name being mentioned here is interesting Sturt did not have as pointed out another coach to carry on for another 25 years .But i think that his legacy may have lasted longer outside Sturt due to the fact that his pupils left Unley and took his run on style with them.

I hope that the above makes sense.As a fan of a side who at the height of Port Adelaide and Sturts etc hold on the league was always watching as his team lost week after week ,this is only my very own point of view.

Cheers
And go you eagles

Ask and ye shall recieve.





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Cambridge Clarrie wrote:Wasn't that a ripper Smithy?

Was one of the hardest hits I've seen on a player.

McCormacks and Delany's was better

therisingblues wrote:Question here, has Port won a premiership in the past half century under any other coach than Cahill or Williams? I have been thinking recently that perhaps Port were just blessed with two master coaches having their careers run consecutively. Imagine if Oatey's career was followed up by as equal a coaching genius who held the reins at Unley for the following 25 years. During the time of Port's strangle hold over the SANFL, it appeared that there was something intrinsic about the Magpies that would ensure that they'd always be about the mark, now I am thinking that perhaps it had more to do with those two brilliant coaches than anything else I used to think about Port.

Yes - Geof Motley in 1959.

The premierships that have been credited to coaches for Port other than a Williams or Cahill (remembering that clubs did not have a designated coach in the early days) are: 1910 - Arch Hosie; 1928, 1936, 1937 - Sampson Hosking; 1939 - Bob Quinn; 1959 - Geof Motley.

spell_check wrote:

therisingblues wrote:Question here, has Port won a premiership in the past half century under any other coach than Cahill or Williams? I have been thinking recently that perhaps Port were just blessed with two master coaches having their careers run consecutively. Imagine if Oatey's career was followed up by as equal a coaching genius who held the reins at Unley for the following 25 years. During the time of Port's strangle hold over the SANFL, it appeared that there was something intrinsic about the Magpies that would ensure that they'd always be about the mark, now I am thinking that perhaps it had more to do with those two brilliant coaches than anything else I used to think about Port.

Yes - Geof Motley in 1959.

The premierships that have been credited to coaches for Port other than a Williams or Cahill (remembering that clubs did not have a designated coach in the early days) are: 1910 - Arch Hosie; 1928, 1936, 1937 - Sampson Hosking; 1939 - Bob Quinn; 1959 - Geof Motley.

Only Spell Check would know the answer .
Have any of the Port adelaide flag winning coaches won flags at any other SANFL clubs ?

Barto wrote:Then Sturt knocked them out in the semi. How many times have Port gone out in straight sets?

13 times

(All 2nd Semi; Prelim unless stated)
1909 - 2nd Semi; Challenge Final
1915 - 1st Semi; Challenge Final
1931
1940
1947
1952
1960
1961
1970
1982
1986 - Qualifying, 1st Semi
1987 - Qualifying, 1st Semi
2000 - Qualifying, 1st Semi

spell_check wrote:

Barto wrote:Then Sturt knocked them out in the semi. How many times have Port gone out in straight sets?

13 times

(All 2nd Semi; Prelim unless stated)
1909 - 2nd Semi; Challenge Final
1915 - 1st Semi; Challenge Final
1931
1940
1947
1952
1960
1961
1970
1982
1986 - Qualifying, 1st Semi
1987 - Qualifying, 1st Semi
2000 - Qualifying, 1st Semi

Should've remembered '82. Dirty tricks still didn't get them any further.

Barto wrote:

Should've remembered '82. Dirty tricks still didn't get them any further.

yep, first we got rid of you and then Port....

*cue the Norwood fans to trump me*

Mickyj wrote:

spell_check wrote:

therisingblues wrote:Question here, has Port won a premiership in the past half century under any other coach than Cahill or Williams? I have been thinking recently that perhaps Port were just blessed with two master coaches having their careers run consecutively. Imagine if Oatey's career was followed up by as equal a coaching genius who held the reins at Unley for the following 25 years. During the time of Port's strangle hold over the SANFL, it appeared that there was something intrinsic about the Magpies that would ensure that they'd always be about the mark, now I am thinking that perhaps it had more to do with those two brilliant coaches than anything else I used to think about Port.

Yes - Geof Motley in 1959.

The premierships that have been credited to coaches for Port other than a Williams or Cahill (remembering that clubs did not have a designated coach in the early days) are: 1910 - Arch Hosie; 1928, 1936, 1937 - Sampson Hosking; 1939 - Bob Quinn; 1959 - Geof Motley.

Only Spell Check would know the answer .
Have any of the Port adelaide flag winning coaches won flags at any other SANFL clubs ?

No.

spell_check wrote:

Mickyj wrote:

spell_check wrote:

therisingblues wrote:Question here, has Port won a premiership in the past half century under any other coach than Cahill or Williams? I have been thinking recently that perhaps Port were just blessed with two master coaches having their careers run consecutively. Imagine if Oatey's career was followed up by as equal a coaching genius who held the reins at Unley for the following 25 years. During the time of Port's strangle hold over the SANFL, it appeared that there was something intrinsic about the Magpies that would ensure that they'd always be about the mark, now I am thinking that perhaps it had more to do with those two brilliant coaches than anything else I used to think about Port.

Yes - Geof Motley in 1959.

The premierships that have been credited to coaches for Port other than a Williams or Cahill (remembering that clubs did not have a designated coach in the early days) are: 1910 - Arch Hosie; 1928, 1936, 1937 - Sampson Hosking; 1939 - Bob Quinn; 1959 - Geof Motley.

Only Spell Check would know the answer .
Have any of the Port adelaide flag winning coaches won flags at any other SANFL clubs ?

No.

Does that sum it all up for the rest of footy fans .Cahill did nothing or not much to be fairer at Collingwood and West adealdie .Williams did about the same at Glenleg.Ebert did nothing at woodville and was not considered as the first Coach at WWT.
So to me it was a combination of Cahill/Williams coaching style and the players playing at alberton.Take the coach to another club and the formula didn't really work.