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Salary Cap Amount of $305,000

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:15 am
by Wedgie
I thought I would start a seperate topic on this as it takes a slightly different tangent.

Is $305,000 enough if you're going to keep it?

Think about it, clubs have up to 60 players on their senior list, on average that works out to about $5k per player per year.
Now I know its ridiculous to assume the worse ressies player is going to get the same payment as the best leage player but its stuff all really.

I know the SANFL has dropped a peg or 2 in standard since the 80s but there was probably players in the late 80s/early 90s getting paid more than some holding down the same position now. Even if the standard has dropped players these days put in more a lot more hours at their footy club than players did 15-20 years ago. I'm sure a few could back me up on that.

I'm not sure if the $305k is dicated to the SANFL by the AFL but its incredibly low IMHO. Should SANFL players look at forming their own union?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:17 am
by Dog_ger
$305,000 isn't that much is it..? Thats why everyone is complaining...!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:43 am
by redandblack
I would think the cap only applies to payments for league games played, but if not, reserves payments are only peanuts usually.

Therefore you are only looking at the payments of 21 players per week.

$305,000 for 20 games (I don't know if finals payments count?) is $15,250 per week, an average of $726 per player per game. The average SANFL player would be on much less than this, but AFL recruits would be on much, much more.

An increase of modest proportions each year would appear to be reasonable.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:00 am
by Booney
I tend to think it is to low.I also feel an open market would spell disaster for our competition.

I suggest:

1: A cap set for players who have come through the ranks,lets say,home grown talent,must have played U/19's and reserves for the club,set a cap at $250,000.
2: A cap for imports,players with <3 years at the club at $120,000.
3: A new recruit cap,for first year imports,at $40,000.

This means new imports would be limited to one a year and recent (less than 3 years), would be under there own cap.This way imports would be in the first 3 years limited to about $40,000.

Just an idea,a bit of a format,some may care to squash it,or elaborate.Off you go..............

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:19 am
by am Bays
Just what we need another thread about the salary cap, I cant remember which thread I last posted on....

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:36 am
by JK
Perhaps another suggestion (using the same squash/elaboration proviso as Booney) could be something along the lines of what they're doing in the A-League soccer, whereby all clubs have a cap ($1.5Mil) but can sign one "Marquee" player who is exempt from that cap ... Perhaps we could run with something like this in the SANFL with ex-number of Cap-Exempt players ... Again, just throwing out other idea's ...

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:44 am
by am Bays
In all seriousness as I have posted elsewhere, increase it in line with inflation each year.

Rather than limit the number of recruits limit the amount of the cap that can be spent on players from outside the state, $100 000 for arguements sake. A residential qualification could be five years i.e. Sherwood would be a local at the Bay, but Butcher has four more years to go....

Ex South Australians would be classed as locals for their original club but not for other clubs (don't know if that is a restraint of trade....)

Hey, just thought I'd chuck it out there....

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:47 am
by doggies4eva
These comments seem to based on the false premis that a salary cap works. I can't think of a league or sport where this approach has worked - make it $10m so we can see what clubs really pay players.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:47 am
by am Bays
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:In all seriousness as I have posted elsewhere, increase it in line with inflation each year.

Rather than limit the number of recruits limit the amount of the cap that can be spent on players from outside the state, $100 000 for arguements sake. A residential qualification could be five years i.e. Sherwood would be a local at the Bay, but Butcher has four more years to go....

Ex South Australians would be classed as locals for their original club but not for other clubs (don't know if that is a restraint of trade....)

Hey, just thought I'd chuck it out there....


Sorry Booney just read your post, once again Glenelg has been beaten by Port......

Inother words I wholeheartedly agree with you.....

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:50 am
by Blue Boy
This is what I think

Yes we should have a cap but there must be some sort of better auditing of this system - 305K is just not enough and obviously there are to many loop holes.

With this new AFL TV deal they should be pouring some of the revenue back in to the SANFL to pass on to the clubs because this is where they take the talent from to produce there revenue.

just a though hey

Go you Blues

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:18 pm
by Wedgie
Ive actually heard this morning that allegedly an ex AFL player, for anonymities sake let's call him Aussie "Smith", I've heard (rightly or wrongly) that he will be playing in the Mornington Peninsula league for a package of $100,000. $50000 to play and a "job" for $50000.

The SANFL is really going to struggle to attract and retain players if regional leagues can pay that much with the current cap.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:24 pm
by Spiritof64
Does anyone know the salary caps in the WAFL and VFL TFL etc?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:26 pm
by Wedgie
Spiritof64 wrote:Does anyone know the salary caps in the WAFL and VFL TFL etc?

By memory it was 160k in 2003 for the WAFL, Im not sure if this has gone up or not.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:26 pm
by Booney
If, allegedly, this "Smith" (LOL Wedgie) character is getting such an astronomical amount to play in a regional league,then yes,any SANFL club would struggle to match such an offer.However,I would think the chances of a Mornington Peninsula club paying/affording that amount would be impossible.It would be like Serena Williams trying to fit in Victoria Beckham's pants.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:27 pm
by Wedgie
Booney wrote:If, allegedly, this "Smith" (LOL Wedgie) character is getting such an astronomical amount to play in a regional league,then yes,any SANFL club would struggle to match such an offer.However,I would think the chances of a Mornington Peninsula club paying/affording that amount would be impossible.It would be like Serena Williams trying to fit in Victoria Beckham's pants.


I must admit I find it hard to believe he's paid that much but even if it was half of that no other SANFL clubs except for a couple would offer that sort of dosh.
lmao@Serena in Posh's pants. :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:54 pm
by doggies4eva
I wouldn't mind trying to get into Posh's pants.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:11 pm
by Blue Boy
Yes Yes I do agree to that and maybe sportys to hey

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:11 pm
by JK
Probably depends on how well you can "Bend It" ...

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:18 pm
by am Bays
I think Sporty's lack of Sport anyone could fit into her pants, She makes Tractor Prime look like Twiggy at the minute sheesh, Something about flour......

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:18 pm
by doggies4eva
Constance_Perm wrote:Probably depends on how well you can "Bend It" ...


Yes Bend It like the salary cap rules. Thanks for getting us back on topic.