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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:17 pm
by Booney
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
I would bet there's people in your circle who are regular drug users and you have no idea they do.

The Fun Police and I were having a discussion over this a couple of weeks ago when the radio suggested that 10% of the Adelaide adult population is an ice user.

I didn't believe it, it's trying to say one in every ten people I know is on it?


I think the national number was something like 6% and the SA number was around 8%, this is a number devised from testing at waste treatment plants so I don't really know how they arrive at that conclusion.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:17 pm
by Jim05
morell wrote:Valid points, all.

I took Jim to be a stout kind of campaigner requiring shaking.

I wouldn't have spoken in the same manner to other posters. If he's upset, then I apologise for my lack of awareness.

Why would I be upset, I love robust confrontation. One thing I can’t stand is treating people like babies, I deal with **** at work all day and I give them abuse and expect back the other way

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:20 pm
by bennymacca
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
I would bet there's people in your circle who are regular drug users and you have no idea they do.

The Fun Police and I were having a discussion over this a couple of weeks ago when the radio suggested that 10% of the Adelaide adult population is an ice user.

I didn't believe it, it's trying to say one in every ten people I know is on it?


Doesn’t mean it’s evenly distributed - would be groups of people where it’s 0% (maybe your and my social circles) and then other groups would be much higher

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:23 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Booney wrote:
I think the national number was something like 6% and the SA number was around 8%, this is a number devised from testing at waste treatment plants so I don't really know how they arrive at that conclusion.

We distinctly heard 10% on the radio, I can only find literature stating less. and yes, what can the waste water really determine accurately?

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:27 pm
by Lightning McQueen
bennymacca wrote:
Doesn’t mean it’s evenly distributed - would be groups of people where it’s 0% (maybe your and my social circles) and then other groups would be much higher

Yeah, growing up in the northern suburbs I thought I'd be confronted with it or hear more about it than what I do.

I'm that far away from knowing what they do with it I was looking at people strangely because they were sucking on one of those vape thingy's, I thought that was a fancy ice pipe at first.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:31 pm
by JK
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
I think the national number was something like 6% and the SA number was around 8%, this is a number devised from testing at waste treatment plants so I don't really know how they arrive at that conclusion.

We distinctly heard 10% on the radio, I can only find literature stating less. and yes, what can the waste water really determine accurately?


Without having proof, I reckon most people on here would know people that use, without being aware of it.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:35 pm
by Bum Crack
JK wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
I think the national number was something like 6% and the SA number was around 8%, this is a number devised from testing at waste treatment plants so I don't really know how they arrive at that conclusion.

We distinctly heard 10% on the radio, I can only find literature stating less. and yes, what can the waste water really determine accurately?


Without having proof, I reckon most people on here would know people that use, without being aware of it.

I would have thought everyone on here would know and be aware of someone that uses.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:42 pm
by Mr Beefy
Lightning McQueen wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Doesn’t mean it’s evenly distributed - would be groups of people where it’s 0% (maybe your and my social circles) and then other groups would be much higher

Yeah, growing up in the northern suburbs I thought I'd be confronted with it or hear more about it than what I do.

I'm that far away from knowing what they do with it I was looking at people strangely because they were sucking on one of those vape thingy's, I thought that was a fancy ice pipe at first.
The vapey things are for the hash oil dopey. [emoji30]

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:45 pm
by MW
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:I drink alcohol because it's legal. I'd hate to think what I might take if drugs were legal...


The question is would you drink alcohol if it was illegal?


Good question. Probably not.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:52 pm
by JK
Bum Crack wrote:
JK wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
I think the national number was something like 6% and the SA number was around 8%, this is a number devised from testing at waste treatment plants so I don't really know how they arrive at that conclusion.

We distinctly heard 10% on the radio, I can only find literature stating less. and yes, what can the waste water really determine accurately?


Without having proof, I reckon most people on here would know people that use, without being aware of it.

I would have thought everyone on here would know and be aware of someone that uses.


Yep, I think both cases would be happening for most.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:56 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Mr Beefy wrote:[The vapey things are for the hash oil dopey. [emoji30]

I thought you just dripped that on top of your packed cone.

Is that stuff still around?

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:03 pm
by Mr Beefy
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:[The vapey things are for the hash oil dopey. [emoji30]

I thought you just dripped that on top of your packed cone.

Is that stuff still around?
You're so old school, odour free vaping is the way to go nowadays. Well i have encountered this once so i have vast experience and am an internet expert!

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:08 pm
by Bombers4EVA
You think it'll be harder to get and more expensive if it was legalised?[/quote]
Do we want to limit access and increase the price? Or actually solve the problem of drug addiction?

When someone is willing to rob a petrol station after already selling everything they have just to feed a habit, the "threat" of a criminal conviction for drug use aint going to do shit other than put these people further into a spiral.

The price is also moot. As one drug goes up in price, people find a cheaper alternative. The cheaper the product, usually the more dangerous the ingredients - again, causing more issues.[/quote]


How does legalising it help solve the problem of drug addiction?
Like you said the price of it is almost irrelevant and making it easier to access(even thought it's easy already) won't fix that problem.[/quote]
What country has the best laws and stats to prove them when it comes to drugs in their country?

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:19 pm
by westcoastpanther
Bombers4EVA wrote:You think it'll be harder to get and more expensive if it was legalised?

Do we want to limit access and increase the price? Or actually solve the problem of drug addiction?

When someone is willing to rob a petrol station after already selling everything they have just to feed a habit, the "threat" of a criminal conviction for drug use aint going to do shit other than put these people further into a spiral.

The price is also moot. As one drug goes up in price, people find a cheaper alternative. The cheaper the product, usually the more dangerous the ingredients - again, causing more issues.[/quote]


How does legalising it help solve the problem of drug addiction?
Like you said the price of it is almost irrelevant and making it easier to access(even thought it's easy already) won't fix that problem.[/quote]
What country has the best laws and stats to prove them when it comes to drugs in their country?[/quote]

Holland :)

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:39 pm
by valleys07
:lol:

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:06 pm
by Bombers4EVA
When someone is willing to rob a petrol station after already selling everything they have just to feed a habit, the "threat" of a criminal conviction for drug use aint going to do shit other than put these people further into a spiral.

The price is also moot. As one drug goes up in price, people find a cheaper alternative. The cheaper the product, usually the more dangerous the ingredients - again, causing more issues.[/quote]


How does legalising it help solve the problem of drug addiction?
Like you said the price of it is almost irrelevant and making it easier to access(even thought it's easy already) won't fix that problem.[/quote]
What country has the best laws and stats to prove them when it comes to drugs in their country?[/quote]

Holland :)[/quote]

What I meant was what country's have the most severe penalties for drugs suppliers / users? And do those penalties work in reducing the amount of drug users / suppliers.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:12 pm
by Lightning McQueen
I'm getting dizzy.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:37 pm
by Q.
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:I drink alcohol because it's legal. I'd hate to think what I might take if drugs were legal...


The question is would you drink alcohol if it was illegal?


If booze was made illegal today we'd all be on MT79s doorstep handing over fistful of cash for his homebrew.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 3:04 pm
by morell
Jim05 wrote:
morell wrote:Valid points, all.

I took Jim to be a stout kind of campaigner requiring shaking.

I wouldn't have spoken in the same manner to other posters. If he's upset, then I apologise for my lack of awareness.

Why would I be upset, I love robust confrontation. One thing I can’t stand is treating people like babies, I deal with **** at work all day and I give them abuse and expect back the other way
I hear ya. Love a bit of debate.

Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 3:40 pm
by Bum Crack
Mandated sterilization for repeat drug related offenders?