Crows 2015

[bennymacca]

$400k pa according to reports, so on above average coin, which makes it hard to trade him also, unless Crows pay some of his contract.

wow, his manager is a genius.

His last season was probably his best, so a good time for a contract renewal.

Apparently his last contract also included trigger clauses to activate his 2015 contract, so it wouldnt surprise me if it was the same with this new deal.

He would wanna have a better season next year than he did this year, or he could find himself on the chopping block

[heater31]

Johnsons contract would have freed up a fair bit of cap space wouldn't it?

And Kelly.

Dangers probably on realestate.com.au scoping out a sweet pad at Torquay right now.

Currently building a house in Torquay is the word on the street....

[Jim05]

How do crows fans view the possibility of Worsfold taking the Essendon job, presumably he was offered or in line for the crows gig.... Is that a slap in the face to the crows list? Surely the crows list (& potential in the short term) is more attractive than the Bombers.... or is it coin?

Discuss...

His wife is against moving here. She has stayed in Perth during this short period but word is she prefers Melbourne and enjoyed her time living there when he was at Carlton. Money would be a huge factor, $1-1.5m a season is hard to resist. The challenge might suit him, if he turns the club around he is lauded as a genius, at worst he leaves in 4-5 years with a full bank balance. Also pretty appealing to play 16 home games in Melbourne which included ANZAC Day, Dreamtime games etc.
The negatives are the list isnt great and we are several drafts away from getting competitive again

[HH3]

Plus the Essendon supporters appear to be very forgiving when it comes to running the club into the ground. He'd get crucified here if Adelaide had a bad season.

[Lightning McQueen]

How do crows fans view the possibility of Worsfold taking the Essendon job, presumably he was offered or in line for the crows gig.... Is that a slap in the face to the crows list? Surely the crows list (& potential in the short term) is more attractive than the Bombers.... or is it coin?

Discuss...

His wife is against moving here. She has stayed in Perth during this short period but word is she prefers Melbourne and enjoyed her time living there when he was at Carlton. Money would be a huge factor, $1-1.5m a season is hard to resist. The challenge might suit him, if he turns the club around he is lauded as a genius, at worst he leaves in 4-5 years with a full bank balance. Also pretty appealing to play 16 home games in Melbourne which included ANZAC Day, Dreamtime games etc.
The negatives are the list isnt great and we are several drafts away from getting competitive again

But we have The Beachouse!

[bennymacca]

Lyon and Barrett reporting that Don Pyke is a strong chance for the Crows job.

Spent time at the crows under Neil Craig, but has been at West coast for a long time, including when Phil Walsh was there

Also reported that it is more likely that Worsfold continues in a similar role to his current role, whether that is at adelaide or at essendon.

Pyke/Worsfold at Adelaide or McKenna/Worsfold at Essendon both make a fair amount of sense

[helicopterking]

Any chance the Crows don't go for someone from West Coast.

[Fricky]

I've been told that the Crows haven't spoken to Pyke yet and it's all a media beat up.

[JK]

I've been told that the Crows haven't spoken to Pyke yet and it's all a media beat up.

I heard over a month ago that they had spoken to him and he was well and truly in the mix.

[Booney]

With future draft picks up for trade, Adelaide could ask for this years and next years first rounder?

[bennymacca]

With future draft picks up for trade, Adelaide could ask for this years and next years first rounder?

i would think that would be their minimum requirement, yes

[HH3]

Do Geelong have to give Adelaide anything if they don't match the offer?

Not really across the new trading system.

[MW]

Do Geelong have to give Adelaide anything if they don't match the offer?

Not really across the new trading system.

No. If Geelong offer him a contract and Adelaide don't match, he goes. AFL give Crows compo pick likely late teens first round.

If Adelaide match, then Geelong need to either trade for him, or Danger nominates for the draft in the hope no other club touch him and he falls to Geelong for nothing

[Booney]

Do Geelong have to give Adelaide anything if they don't match the offer?

Not really across the new trading system.

If Adelaide do not match the offer they will get a compensation pick, most likely the pick after Adelaide's first round pick.

As they finished 6th that would typically be pick 13 as their first pick and pick 14 would be the compensation pick.

That is complicated by, lets say, the AFL deem Lachie Henderson worthy of a first round pick as compensation, thus Carlton get 1 and 2. Adelaide would then be 14/15. 15 for Dangerfield.

If the AFL give anyone below Adelaide a first round pick as compensation for a free agent they lose, it adds to Adelaide's pick #.

[HH3]

Do Geelong have to give Adelaide anything if they don't match the offer?

Not really across the new trading system.

No. If Geelong offer him a contract and Adelaide don't match, he goes. AFL give Crows compo pick likely late teens first round.

Surely if Geelong really want him, they would offer him an amount the Crows can't match. Why offer him something, only to have him stay in Adelaide or enter the Draft.

Also, it would make more sense for Geelong to offer him a good deal, and keep whatever picks they have, because they're gonna need them. Id say this is the most important time for Geelong to get some good early rounders in the last decade.

[MW]

If Geelong offer him overs, it would do more harm to the attitudes of the other players, namely Selwood, Hawkins etc who would be paid way under Danger. It's widely known that Geelong don't over pay hence why they have been able to keep all their stars for so long through such success.

[HH3]

They could offer him close to Selwoods contract, but for 6 or 7 years.

Would the Crows have to match the commitment? I don't think they would if they had to.

[stan]

I think the psd is only a bluff from dangers camp. Could end up at Carlton FFS. Regardless of wanting to get home that would suck.

[Booney]

They could offer him close to Selwoods contract, but for 6 or 7 years.

Would the Crows have to match the commitment? I don't think they would if they had to.

Yes, I think it's money and terms.

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[Jim05]

If Geelong offer him overs, it would do more harm to the attitudes of the other players, namely Selwood, Hawkins etc who would be paid way under Danger. It's widely known that Geelong don't over pay hence why they have been able to keep all their stars for so long through such success.

They dont need to offer him overs, 9 of his rellies work for Frank Costa, im sure they are well compensated