Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:57 pmPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:57 pmMW wrote:What else can we find? Oh that's right, we are cheats again cause of the Talia brothers.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:58 pmLightning McQueen wrote:whufc wrote:The Crows would have to be filthy on the timing of Patty leaving
They put in all the hard yards with his development, catered for him when he was first drafted by allowing him to stay back and study, they have got a squad that is verging on cracking the top 4 and Dangerfield is about to hit his prime, and then bang gone!!!
Considering they never made a gf or were a genuine premiership threat during his time at the club its hard to know whether his drafting has ultimately been a great success especially considering there were always question marks over how long he would stay in Adelaide
This is really going to set them backs few years imho
If you draft a kid out of their home state, you're going to have to expect them to go home eventually.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:00 pmHefty wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:whufc wrote:The Crows would have to be filthy on the timing of Patty leaving
They put in all the hard yards with his development, catered for him when he was first drafted by allowing him to stay back and study, they have got a squad that is verging on cracking the top 4 and Dangerfield is about to hit his prime, and then bang gone!!!
Considering they never made a gf or were a genuine premiership threat during his time at the club its hard to know whether his drafting has ultimately been a great success especially considering there were always question marks over how long he would stay in Adelaide
This is really going to set them backs few years imho
If you draft a kid out of their home state, you're going to have to expect them to go home eventually.
Jonathan Brown got drafted interstate as a 17yo and went on to win 3 flags for the ONE club. Travis Boak decided to stay at Port after Geelong went after him hard. I'm disappointed that he's leaving after we've built ourselves back into a finals team since 2012......wasn't his decisioned based on team success??? Hypocrite............
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:02 pmJK wrote:Corona Man wrote:Your "fans" or at least a good percentage of them is a large factor. For me it's the slogans - the team for all south Australians, and the team song - the pride of south Australia..... and worst of all.... admiration of the nation. Nothing like a bit of self proclamation!
Can you imagine any of the Melbourne clubs using "the team for all victorians" as their positioning statement?? Not likely!
Good points - Have often wondered how the Victorian or Western Australians in the group would feel about claiming to be the pride of a different state. The club feels plastic and purely corporaqte most of the time, although I will say they earnt a bit of respect for the way they rallied throughout the adversity they faced this year.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:04 pmMW wrote:One man leaves and now our club song is crap, we have the worst supporters in the league judging from some poll that I have never seen and we won't win a flag for the next 10 years. Amazing.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:05 pmTEX07 wrote:MW wrote:One man leaves and now our club song is crap, we have the worst supporters in the league judging from some poll that I have never seen and we won't win a flag for the next 10 years. Amazing.
I saw the poll somewhere on social media this morning. Im not able to check again now but my point is that we were voted the team most others love to hate and I seriously dont think that this has much to do with the actual club but more the supporters - just my opinion.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:06 pmMagellan wrote:JK wrote:Corona Man wrote:Your "fans" or at least a good percentage of them is a large factor. For me it's the slogans - the team for all south Australians, and the team song - the pride of south Australia..... and worst of all.... admiration of the nation. Nothing like a bit of self proclamation!
Can you imagine any of the Melbourne clubs using "the team for all victorians" as their positioning statement?? Not likely!
Good points - Have often wondered how the Victorian or Western Australians in the group would feel about claiming to be the pride of a different state. The club feels plastic and purely corporaqte most of the time, although I will say they earnt a bit of respect for the way they rallied throughout the adversity they faced this year.
Spot on. IMHO the 'team for all South Australians' bit is a piece of clever marketing designed to attract fans who don't have or understand what it means to have a genuine or traditional footy allegiance (and by that, I mean those who never grew up pre-1991 following a 'local' SANFL team or are too young to know any better).
What it's saying is if you want to barrack for this club, all you have to do is live in SA (with over a million other people) and then you can identify as part of the club. It 's a very low bar that doesn't ask much of its new fans to get on board. The subtext is if you're a South Australian but don't support the Crows then there's something wrong. On the other hand, I think the suburban Vic clubs, and Port and Freo, who each represent a particular piece of turf and have a separate footy history, ask its fans to identify with that suburban area and its unique social fabric and identity. It's pretty easy to identify simply with an entire state.
This means that the Crows position themselves as an SA state side in a club-based comp. Most of their fans are too patriotic to the SA 'cause', the echoes of 'Kick-a Vic' from the 80s that you still see peddled in West End Draught adverts, and the club's appetite for slick marketing bullshit to realise there's a difference, particularly when for example on the weekend Hawthorn had more Victorians playing than the Crows.
In the end, their marketing approach has worked, so good on them for that, but it means that most of their fans are absolute pains in the arse.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:06 pmMW wrote:TEX07 wrote:MW wrote:One man leaves and now our club song is crap, we have the worst supporters in the league judging from some poll that I have never seen and we won't win a flag for the next 10 years. Amazing.
I saw the poll somewhere on social media this morning. Im not able to check again now but my point is that we were voted the team most others love to hate and I seriously dont think that this has much to do with the actual club but more the supporters - just my opinion.
Oh dear lord
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:07 pmPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:08 pmCorona Man wrote:Magellan wrote:JK wrote:Corona Man wrote:Your "fans" or at least a good percentage of them is a large factor. For me it's the slogans - the team for all south Australians, and the team song - the pride of south Australia..... and worst of all.... admiration of the nation. Nothing like a bit of self proclamation!
Can you imagine any of the Melbourne clubs using "the team for all victorians" as their positioning statement?? Not likely!
Good points - Have often wondered how the Victorian or Western Australians in the group would feel about claiming to be the pride of a different state. The club feels plastic and purely corporaqte most of the time, although I will say they earnt a bit of respect for the way they rallied throughout the adversity they faced this year.
Spot on. IMHO the 'team for all South Australians' bit is a piece of clever marketing designed to attract fans who don't have or understand what it means to have a genuine or traditional footy allegiance (and by that, I mean those who never grew up pre-1991 following a 'local' SANFL team or are too young to know any better).
What it's saying is if you want to barrack for this club, all you have to do is live in SA (with over a million other people) and then you can identify as part of the club. It 's a very low bar that doesn't ask much of its new fans to get on board. The subtext is if you're a South Australian but don't support the Crows then there's something wrong. On the other hand, I think the suburban Vic clubs, and Port and Freo, who each represent a particular piece of turf and have a separate footy history, ask its fans to identify with that suburban area and its unique social fabric and identity. It's pretty easy to identify simply with an entire state.
This means that the Crows position themselves as an SA state side in a club-based comp. Most of their fans are too patriotic to the SA 'cause', the echoes of 'Kick-a Vic' from the 80s that you still see peddled in West End Draught adverts, and the club's appetite for slick marketing bullshit to realise there's a difference, particularly when for example on the weekend Hawthorn had more Victorians playing than the Crows.
In the end, their marketing approach has worked, so good on them for that, but it means that most of their fans are absolute pains in the arse.
Pretty good analysis mate.... mind you I had to get to the last line until I had a chuckle!
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:14 pm
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:15 pmbennymacca wrote:Collingwood, Essendon Geelong port Adelaide all talk about winning some sort of premiership but a little by of admiration makes us arrogant? Turn it up
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:16 pmbennymacca wrote:Collingwood, Essendon Geelong port Adelaide all talk about winning some sort of premiership but a little by of admiration makes us arrogant? Turn it up
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:18 pmbennymacca wrote:Collingwood, Essendon Geelong port Adelaide all talk about winning some sort of premiership but a little by of admiration makes us arrogant? Turn it up
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:19 pmWedgie wrote:bennymacca wrote:Collingwood, Essendon Geelong port Adelaide all talk about winning some sort of premiership but a little by of admiration makes us arrogant? Turn it up
Could be even more unrealistic, apparantley when North Adelaide are down they fight, fight, fight!
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:19 pm