Collingwood v Adelaide - Semi Final

[Footy Smart]

Here's a question...how many more finals can Neil Craig lose before he get the chop?
If we lose a winnable finals game again next year then what?

All this s***t about winabble finals favourites/underdogs etc is just that s***t ina final its a 2 horse race. 5 goals in today football is far from a sure thing and against a good team with one of the best coaches ever ofcourse they were going to come back. UNfortunatly they snuck over the line and good on them. The players on the field and the coaches in the box could have done no more than what they did. Thats football!

This year has been full of positives and 0 negatives but idiots over react and sack the caock cut the players yada yada yada, for god sake the glass is 3/4 full not bone try like some people here are acting....

GO THE CROWS

you didnt answer the question

Thats cos its a stupid question! answer this

Who do you appoint that will do a better job than NC has done and will continue to do?

[overloaded]

Who do you appoint that will do a better job than NC has done and will continue to do?

That implies Neil Craig has done a good job...WTF? Why should we have to tolerate mediorcity and pat ourselves on the back for another year where we tried hard but didnt bring home the bacon. Thats just bullsh!t. We were 6 goals up and lost a final that should have taken us to a prelim against Geelong who we would have beaten and the coach gets let off the hook...WTF?
Under Craigy we have won a pathetic 3 out of 9 finals and that is a joke. That would have never have happened with Malcolm Blight as a coach.

[Footy Smart]

Who do you appoint that will do a better job than NC has done and will continue to do?

That implies Neil Craig has done a good job...WTF? Why should we have to tolerate mediorcity and pat ourselves on the back for another year where we tried hard but didnt bring home the bacon. Thats just bullsh!t. We were 6 goals up and lost a final that should have taken us to a prelim against Geelong who we would have beaten and the coach gets let off the hook...WTF?
Under Craigy we have won a pathetic 3 out of 9 finals and that is a joke. That would have never have happened with Malcolm Blight as a coach.

your kidding yourself.... so all of a sudden we are good enough to beat Collingwood and Geelong???? come back to reality

has NC had the best list in the comp ever in his time as coach? NO
has he had a premiership forward line? NO
has he made the squad he has had competetive? Yes
has the squad improved? yesx10
will it continue to improve? yesx10

has our premiership window closed? of course not its just opening

[overloaded]

Who do you appoint that will do a better job than NC has done and will continue to do?

That implies Neil Craig has done a good job...WTF? Why should we have to tolerate mediorcity and pat ourselves on the back for another year where we tried hard but didnt bring home the bacon. Thats just bullsh!t. We were 6 goals up and lost a final that should have taken us to a prelim against Geelong who we would have beaten and the coach gets let off the hook...WTF?
Under Craigy we have won a pathetic 3 out of 9 finals and that is a joke. That would have never have happened with Malcolm Blight as a coach.

your kidding yourself.... so all of a sudden we are good enough to beat Collingwood and Geelong???? come back to reality

has NC had the best list in the comp ever in his time as coach? NO
has he had a premiership forward line? NO
has he made the squad he has had competetive? Yes
has the squad improved? yesx10
will it continue to improve? yesx10

has our premiership window closed? of course not its just opening

has he got to a grand final? NO
should he have got to a grand final? YES

[Footy Smart]

Who do you appoint that will do a better job than NC has done and will continue to do?

That implies Neil Craig has done a good job...WTF? Why should we have to tolerate mediorcity and pat ourselves on the back for another year where we tried hard but didnt bring home the bacon. Thats just bullsh!t. We were 6 goals up and lost a final that should have taken us to a prelim against Geelong who we would have beaten and the coach gets let off the hook...WTF?
Under Craigy we have won a pathetic 3 out of 9 finals and that is a joke. That would have never have happened with Malcolm Blight as a coach.

your kidding yourself.... so all of a sudden we are good enough to beat Collingwood and Geelong???? come back to reality

has NC had the best list in the comp ever in his time as coach? NO
has he had a premiership forward line? NO
has he made the squad he has had competetive? Yes
has the squad improved? yesx10
will it continue to improve? yesx10

has our premiership window closed? of course not its just opening

has he got to a grand final? NO
should he have got to a grand final? YES

We should/could/would have probably got to the GF they year Trent did his knee but loosing him shot our flimsy forward structure to bits. (once again quality of squad not coaching)

Is it his fault that a player makes a mistake in the heat of battle? NO

[Hondo]

Overloaded, if you think 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th is "mediocrity" then Craigy will never please you (maybe you were spoiled by PAM success over the years but in current day AFL it's not reality). Never missed a finals series and never bottommed out. He has the respect of everyone in the know across the border and would be snapped up if he became available.

You knock him endlessly and then come out and say we would have beaton Geelong If you are that confident then who got us to this point? Not Malcolm Blight.

Of course the finals record needs to balance to 50-50 as it ends up being for most coaches (I think Malthouse is 50-50 over his career - remembering he will likely drop another one this weekend). Craigy is 33-67.

I am confident that it will balance up over the next few years because we have the makings of a really great side. I don't want to see someone swan in at the end and claim the flag that Craigy friggin well earned.

[Footy Smart]

Overloaded, if you think 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th is "mediocrity" then Craigy will never please you (maybe you were spoiled by PAM success over the years but in current day AFL it's not reality). Never missed a finals series and never bottommed out. He has the respect of everyone in the know across the border and would be snapped up if he became available.

You knock him endlessly and then come out and say we would have beaton Geelong If you are that confident then who got us to this point? Not Malcolm Blight.

Of course the finals record needs to balance to 50-50 as it ends up being for most coaches (I think Malthouse is 50-50 over his career - remembering he will likely drop another one this weekend). Craigy is 33-67.

I am confident that it will balance up over the next few years because we have the makings of a really great side. I don't want to see someone swan in at the end and claim the flag that Craigy friggin well earned.

Exactly Hondo players from other clubs when refering to adelaide say how well coached and disciplined Adelaide is. Supporters like you are the only ones that bring our respected name down!

[the big bang]

Overloaded, if you think 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th is "mediocrity" then Craigy will never please you (maybe you were spoiled by PAM success over the years but in current day AFL it's not reality). Never missed a finals series and never bottommed out. He has the respect of everyone in the know across the border and would be snapped up if he became available.

You knock him endlessly and then come out and say we would have beaton Geelong If you are that confident then who got us to this point? Not Malcolm Blight.

Of course the finals record needs to balance to 50-50 as it ends up being for most coaches (I think Malthouse is 50-50 over his career - remembering he will likely drop another one this weekend). Craigy is 33-67.

I am confident that it will balance up over the next few years because we have the makings of a really great side. I don't want to see someone swan in at the end and claim the flag that Craigy friggin well earned.

Exactly Hondo players from other clubs when refering to adelaide say how well coached and disciplined Adelaide is. Supporters like you are the only ones that bring our respected name down!

indeed. there is a fine line between passionate and just plain stupidity.

[silicone skyline]

Overloaded, if you think 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th is "mediocrity" then Craigy will never please you (maybe you were spoiled by PAM success over the years but in current day AFL it's not reality). Never missed a finals series and never bottommed out. He has the respect of everyone in the know across the border and would be snapped up if he became available.

You knock him endlessly and then come out and say we would have beaton Geelong If you are that confident then who got us to this point? Not Malcolm Blight.

Of course the finals record needs to balance to 50-50 as it ends up being for most coaches (I think Malthouse is 50-50 over his career - remembering he will likely drop another one this weekend). Craigy is 33-67.

I am confident that it will balance up over the next few years because we have the makings of a really great side. I don't want to see someone swan in at the end and claim the flag that Craigy friggin well earned.

Exactly Hondo players from other clubs when refering to adelaide say how well coached and disciplined Adelaide is. Supporters like you are the only ones that bring our respected name down!

indeed. there is a fine line between passionate and just plain stupidity.

I don't think the line is fine at all.

[overloaded]

Overloaded, if you think 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th is "mediocrity" then Craigy will never please you.

No sh!t Sherlock. I reckon his record of 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th says it all. That is five opporunities to make a grand final that have not been realised. It is total mediocrity Hondo.
The Adelaide Football club has a culture of accepting the fact that we overachieved and didnt have the best list and so on, so it was OK we didnt make it where we should have and that is what upsets me. The truth is we were 6 goals up and blew it, and yes Geelong are beatable and in fact I reckon Collingwood will beat them this week which willmake our loss even more sour.

[Gingernuts]

Overloaded, if you think 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th is "mediocrity" then Craigy will never please you.

No sh!t Sherlock. I reckon his record of 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th says it all. That is five opporunities to make a grand final that have not been realised. It is total mediocrity Hondo.
The Adelaide Football club has a culture of accepting the fact that we overachieved and didnt have the best list and so on, so it was OK we didnt make it where we should have and that is what upsets me. The truth is we were 6 goals up and blew it, and yes Geelong are beatable and in fact I reckon Collingwood will beat them this week which willmake our loss even more sour.

The AFC doesn't have a culture of accepting mediocrity as you suggest - rather it has a culture of eating their own thanks to attitudes like yours.

At any sign of trouble ignorant supporters turn on them and savage them, no wonder the players are scared of losing. John Harms highlighted it very well in his article about Dangerfield mid season. Neil Craig is beginning to turn this negative culture around and we have the makings of a winning club instead of a 'scared of losing' club. If that means a few pessimistic fools hand in their membership along the way then so be it.

[lincolnsdirtysecrets]

We need a new coach. The writing is on the wall. Read it. He is a SANFL level coach at best

[NO-MERCY]

has he had a premiership forward line? NO
has he made the squad he has had competetive? Yes
has the squad improved? yesx10
will it continue to improve? yesx10

has our premiership window closed? of course not its just opening

has he got to a grand final? NO
should he have got to a grand final? YES[/quote]

We should/could/would have probably got to the GF they year Trent did his knee but loosing him shot our flimsy forward structure to bits. (once again quality of squad not coaching)

Is it his fault that a player makes a mistake in the heat of battle? NO[/quote]

The talk over the last half of the season has been how good the Crows forward line is with three vertual 50+ goal players.
They were talked up as the best forward line combination the Crows have ever had, all of a sudden they lose "another" final.
Just not quite ready yet?

[the big bang]

Overloaded, if you think 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th is "mediocrity" then Craigy will never please you.

No sh!t Sherlock. I reckon his record of 4th, 4th, 8th, 8th and 5th says it all. That is five opporunities to make a grand final that have not been realised. It is total mediocrity Hondo.
The Adelaide Football club has a culture of accepting the fact that we overachieved and didnt have the best list and so on, so it was OK we didnt make it where we should have and that is what upsets me. The truth is we were 6 goals up and blew it, and yes Geelong are beatable and in fact I reckon Collingwood will beat them this week which willmake our loss even more sour.

every year there is 14 teams that dont make the GF mate, the way you're talking here seems like you think that making the finals means you got a great chance of making the GF. sure ya gotta be in the finals to have a shot in the first place, but ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING has to happen right in the last 3 or 4 games for a club to make that last saturday in september. as we seen on saturday night, 1 decision could end it all.


DECENT CLUBS MAKE FINALS
GOOD CLUBS MAKE GRAND FINALS
GREAT CLUBS WIN PREMIERSHIP

[CUTTERMAN]

has he had a premiership forward line? NO
has he made the squad he has had competetive? Yes
has the squad improved? yesx10
will it continue to improve? yesx10

has our premiership window closed? of course not its just opening

has he got to a grand final? NO
should he have got to a grand final? YES

We should/could/would have probably got to the GF they year Trent did his knee but loosing him shot our flimsy forward structure to bits. (once again quality of squad not coaching)

Is it his fault that a player makes a mistake in the heat of battle? NO[/quote]

The talk over the last half of the season has been how good the Crows forward line is with three vertual 50+ goal players.
They were talked up as the best forward line combination the Crows have ever had, all of a sudden they lose "another" final.
Just not quite ready yet?[/quote]
Did hawthorn win the GF in 07 when franklin knocked them out with a late goal? No, and they would've had one of the best young forward lines in the comp.

[bulldogs]

for my mind the biggest issue out of this loss is the failure of the Crows to win another final while holding a lead at half time. Time and time again they have done this only to fall over. I think the coach and the Players need to share the blame, to me it lies between the ears and shows a lack of mental strength and a real hard edge. i also think there is the panic factor from the box 9 17 players behind the ball. goals win matches, options for defenders up fwd create goals. I think Craig has one more year to see if he and the players can take that next big step in finals footy ( i know not all youngsters have been around for all finals). If they cant do it bye bye craig and bring a coach in who maybe able to teach the talented kids all about mental toughness.

[Footy Smart]

If they cant do it bye bye craig and bring a coach in who maybe able to teach the talented kids all about mental toughness

Like who Bulldog? share with everyone the coach who would do better!

[McChip]

the way crows go in finals they are better off throwing the first half and being behind!
that stretches back as far as 93 to

[overloaded]

If they cant do it bye bye craig and bring a coach in who maybe able to teach the talented kids all about mental toughness

Like who Bulldog? share with everyone the coach who would do better!

Dean Laidley

[Footy Smart]

If they cant do it bye bye craig and bring a coach in who maybe able to teach the talented kids all about mental toughness

Like who Bulldog? share with everyone the coach who would do better!

Dean Laidley

Stop embarrassing yourself