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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:30 pm
by Booney
3 from 3 in Shanghai, do we all have to move there?

Port Adelaide are/were averaging the most I50’s per game this year and up until the weekend just gone were 14th for goals scored. Clearly the front half has been lacking a link to the back half to make most of those forward 50’s, we saw something different on Sunday. Drilling 22 goals to bury the Saints by 70 points in Shanghai has changed the second stat for the good. About bloody time, but will it stand up in the coming weeks?

A couple of noticeable changes to the Port line up, with Bonner coming back in there was no room for Burton, Houston, Bonner, DBJ and Broadbent in the back half so someone had to move and it was Houston who was thrust into the middle to replace Rockliff. His presence was noticeable all day, he uses to ball beautifully, knows how to find it and offered something different in a midfield that can look one dimensional at times. The other noticeable move was Dougal Howard forward, he kicked the first goal of the game and offered Port the link between half back and half forward we’ve been crying out for. Howard can take a grab in a pack, something Ryder, Westhoff, Marshall and Frampton have struggled to do this year. With those two changes (and a couple of tweaks defensively) Port looked like the run and carry team Hinkley promised over the summer. Granted, the Saints have been a plucky unit in the early part of 2019 but they’re not a genuine top 4 aspirant and they had spent too much time with the runs to match Port on the run late on a day in the 30°’s and high humidity.

Early on both sides traded blows but Port looked to have the upper hand. Lycett, back from a week off had 3 marks in the first quarter, Jonas (instead of Clurey-the tweak mentioned above) was playing the “deep full back” role behind the ball and ended up with 13 marks for the day, many of them in space allowing him to use his 16 kicks at 84%, Duursma was playing his role inside and outside the contest, Burton and DBJ were following Bonner’s lead and attacking from half back and importantly the likes of Motlop and Amon were pitching in. The load was being spread and this allowed Robbie Gray to come into the contest when we needed sure hands on the ball, it allowed Bonner to use his left and right foot to great effect just outside 50 to end up with 3 goals from the wing/half back while Butters and Farrell were on the end of some hard work from Rozee ( 6 tackles, 4 I50 ) and Sam Gray ( 4 tackles, 3 I50 ) with two goals each. All the while Travis Boak continued his stellar season with 33 disposal, 7 clearances, 7 I50’s and 2 goals. Another 3 votes for Boak and at $17 he might still offer some value when the last Monday before the GF rolls around. All this saw Port have 7 multiple goal kickers and 13 in all. If this was U12’s footy the coach would have put “All played well” in the school newsletter on Wednesday.

Whilst I thoroughly enjoyed my Sunday on the lounge it just made for more ongoing frustration. There’s no argument, Port Adelaide’s best and worst is further a part than any other team in the competition and we are infuriatingly inconsistent. 30 minutes of the football we played yesterday and the Hawthorn game is there for the taking. 30 minutes of the football we played yesterday and the Richmond game is there for the taking.
We’re our own worst enemy. Individually and collectively. As noted above, when you get individuals across the board contributing it makes the collective’s job easier. More of yesterday, please!

Boon’s best : Boak, R.Gray, Houston, Howard, Bonner, Jonas, Lycett

We head into the bye 6-5 and have the weekend off before heading to Perth. It’s likely Rockliff and Ebert will be available for the trip West, not too far behind is Wines while Hartlett gets another run at SANFL level this weekend against Sturt at Alberton and could be joined by Dixon the following week against Norwood. Some troops are coming back, those in the side will need to perform to hold their place and with some pressure for spots looming it can only be a good thing.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:55 pm
by Lightning McQueen
I put a SGM on, had Port to win, Port to win by 40+, Robbie to score a goal, Robbie to score 3 goals, SPP to score a goal, SPP to get 20 disposals.


I obviously watched SPP closely and thought he is a very lazy footballer and players choose to not pass to him.

I watched him handball sideways to contests and not move forward with any intensity to get the ball back or help out down the field at the next contest, he spends a lot of time just loafing along.

He seems to only get the ball when he feels like making an effort, I had sort of thought it previously but it really stood out yesterday, especially in a big win where he really could've torn the game a new one.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:05 pm
by Dutchy
Lightning McQueen wrote:I put a SGM on, had Port to win, Port to win by 40+,


Surely you cannot back Port to win and to win 40+ in the same bet?

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:07 pm
by Booney
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I put a SGM on, had Port to win, Port to win by 40+,


Surely you cannot back Port to win and to win 40+ in the same bet?


That's what I thought....

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:13 pm
by carey
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I put a SGM on, had Port to win, Port to win by 40+,


Surely you cannot back Port to win and to win 40+ in the same bet?


That's what I thought....



I think you can but he value doesnt change. A bloke at work was on about this not long ago it basically just gives you another leg he was trying to do it for the 3 legs and if one fails money back scheme.

I honestly dont know if its right or not tho

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:19 pm
by Lightning McQueen
carey wrote:

I think you can but he value doesnt change. A bloke at work was on about this not long ago it basically just gives you another leg he was trying to do it for the 3 legs and if one fails money back scheme.

I honestly dont know if its right or not tho

Your mate is right, I just checked it out and the margin market makes the H2H redundant, but yeah, still gives you an extra leg to cash in on the 1 leg fails thing, doesn't matter when you've done 6 legs though I guess, lesson learnt, thank you.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:23 pm
by Brodlach
carey wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I put a SGM on, had Port to win, Port to win by 40+,


Surely you cannot back Port to win and to win 40+ in the same bet?


That's what I thought....



I think you can but he value doesnt change. A bloke at work was on about this not long ago it basically just gives you another leg he was trying to do it for the 3 legs and if one fails money back scheme.

I honestly dont know if its right or not tho


That’s correct

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:24 pm
by Booney
So you can back Port H2H at say $1.88 and then at 40+ at say $3.65 and it doesn't add any value?

Who with?

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:27 pm
by Brodlach
Booney wrote:So you can back Port H2H at say $1.88 and then at 40+ at say $3.65 and it doesn't add any value?

Who with?



Nope no extra value as if you back them 40+ and it gets up of course they have won H2H

Sportsbet

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:30 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Booney wrote:So you can back Port H2H at say $1.88 and then at 40+ at say $3.65 and it doesn't add any value?

Who with?

Sportsbet.

I just tried it out again with the Richmond vs Geelong match.

Geel/Geel 1-39/Geel (-10.5)/Under 163.5 (5.25), drop the H2H out and stays 5.25.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:30 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:So you can back Port H2H at say $1.88 and then at 40+ at say $3.65 and it doesn't add any value?

Who with?



Nope no extra value as if you back them 40+ and it gets up of course they have won H2H

Sportsbet

Does give you the extra leg though for the special.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:32 pm
by Brodlach
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:So you can back Port H2H at say $1.88 and then at 40+ at say $3.65 and it doesn't add any value?

Who with?



Nope no extra value as if you back them 40+ and it gets up of course they have won H2H

Sportsbet

Does give you the extra leg though for the special.

I’ve been doing Any Time Goalkickers with that special with a decent return the last 2 weeks

11 wins
4 Moneybacks
1 loss

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:36 pm
by Booney
I had Boak most touches / Farrell most goals at $38 yesterday.

Boak, most touches, yep.

Farrell 2 goals. R.Gray and Bonner with 3.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:42 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Brodlach wrote:I’ve been doing Any Time Goalkickers with that special with a decent return the last 2 weeks

11 wins
4 Moneybacks
1 loss

Fair average, I chuck in 20 disposals, margins and total scores, I go stupid though and generally do 16-20 leggers and wonder why I dip out on a couple.

I've been within a kick of winning $1500+ for a $5 bet.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:44 pm
by reppoh_eht
Must've been the game for it... Jagged a SGM with:

Port -60.5
Match Overs 155.5
Port Half Time/Full Time
Any Time Goal Scorer - Boak, Rozee and R. Gray

$20 on $560 return :D

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:56 pm
by Lightning McQueen
reppoh_eht wrote:Must've been the game for it... Jagged a SGM with:

Port -60.5
Match Overs 155.5
Port Half Time/Full Time
Any Time Goal Scorer - Boak, Rozee and R. Gray

$20 on $560 return :D

Money for jam, well done.

As soon as I head about the food poisoning I knew Port were gonna win big, I should've been a bit more daring with the goal spread.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:25 pm
by LMA
Seb Ross cost me mine, had him for 25 disposals among 5 other legs which I had wrapped up by 3qtr time, only to see him fall short by 2 for a $508 return

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:32 pm
by Lightning McQueen
LMA wrote:Seb Ross cost me mine, had him for 25 disposals among 5 other legs which I had wrapped up by 3qtr time, only to see him fall short by 2 for a $508 return

Ouch.

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:37 pm
by Brodlach
LMA wrote:Seb Ross cost me mine, had him for 25 disposals among 5 other legs which I had wrapped up by 3qtr time, only to see him fall short by 2 for a $508 return


Fasolo cost me big time yesterday but I got money back

Re: Port Adelaide 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:44 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Brodlach wrote:
LMA wrote:Seb Ross cost me mine, had him for 25 disposals among 5 other legs which I had wrapped up by 3qtr time, only to see him fall short by 2 for a $508 return


Fasolo cost me big time yesterday but I got money back

Did you back him to get a possession?