Who is Choco having a crack at??

[Rik E Boy]

they'll tell you when your a55 is showing....

[Barto]

******* hell, how many excuses does Choke-o have pre-prepared?

[Booney]

Nothing like thoughtful debate to keep a thread going.

[panther]

choco can complain all he likes but it all comes down to the fact that at the moment their football stinks and they cant as a team go man on man which would slow other teams kicking goals.when you have young players playing in the sanfl but you choose to pick experinced footballers such as toby and kingo you deserve all you get

[doggies4eva]

choco can complain all he likes but it all comes down to the fact that at the moment their football stinks and they cant as a team go man on man which would slow other teams kicking goals.when you have young players playing in the sanfl but you choose to pick experinced footballers such as toby and kingo you deserve all you get

Yeah, but he can't pick the young players cause the naughty SANFL coaches are playing them out of position, BOO HOO

[panther]

williams can blame himself. when you only have 4 midfielders and you send 3 of them off on tagging duties who the hell is gonna get the ball down to tredders,white lade and co.white is showing that he is going to be a great afl footballer now that he has been given a chance

[mick]

choco can complain all he likes but it all comes down to the fact that at the moment their football stinks and they cant as a team go man on man which would slow other teams kicking goals.when you have young players playing in the sanfl but you choose to pick experinced footballers such as toby and kingo you deserve all you get

Yeah, but he can't pick the young players cause the naughty SANFL coaches are playing them out of position, BOO HOO

After the match at Prospect I was talking to a bloke (Power and Magpies) who reckons SANFL coaches should be forced to play AFL players in the positions dictated to them by Craig or Choke-o. How arrogant is that?

[stan]

choco can complain all he likes but it all comes down to the fact that at the moment their football stinks and they cant as a team go man on man which would slow other teams kicking goals.when you have young players playing in the sanfl but you choose to pick experinced footballers such as toby and kingo you deserve all you get

Yeah, but he can't pick the young players cause the naughty SANFL coaches are playing them out of position, BOO HOO

After the match at Prospect I was talking to a bloke (Power and Magpies) who reckons SANFL coaches should be forced to play AFL players in the positions dictated to them by Craig or Choke-o. How arrogant is that?

That is very arrogant. Even though some young afl listed players are trying to develop in the SANFL choco must remember that, the sanfls first priority is to win the game of football and not to bow down to him.

[Punk Rooster]

So now the Pawah are losing, it's the SANFL coache's fault?
I remember Choke-o's GF day speech on the victory dias, where he stated that if it weren't for the SANFL coaches, Port wouldn't have won the flag...

[JK]

Given all AFL coaches penchant for frowning upon players who can only play in one or two positions, I would have thought some of these SANFL coaches were actually doing them a favour??

[doggies4eva]

Given that modern footy requires players to be very flexible and "positions" are not actual places that are occupied as the once were I would be interested to know what players have been played out of position. Chocko himself often swings a player from defence into attack or vice versa. It is also common training to give a forward a run in defence to aid their development. I just can't take the comment seriously.

[portentous]

Come on guys, who ISN'T Choco having a crack at would be a better question.

[doggies4eva]

Given the events of the past couple of rounds I think the question should go back to Chocko about his player selections.

He dropped Stuart Dew for 1 week and then put him back into the team. I'm not sure why but it seems to me that Dew has generally been played out of position or not given a role which really suit his skills. He is one of the best kicks in AFL footy. His value is his ability to kick accurately at goal and deliver to the forwards. When he played for the doggies I thought some of his best games where when he was on the wing. He could put a 50 metre pass onto the chest of the full-forward and set up any easy shot for goal. I have seen him feed Tredrea like this a few times. Why he is not regularly used in this role is beyond me. I note that Symes was named rising star this week. He has play great footy for us when we have not been in particulat form. He played in a winning GF last season but was overlooked for a long time before being given a chance. The same for Ware. In my view he is as good a Symes but has been continually overlooked. Now he is being disciplined. Is this just a cooincident or has he started to get frustrated? I have seen some pretty good quality players been allowed to leave the Power and then play pretty well interstate - Guerra, Schofield to name a couple. Why stevens and Picket were allowed to go is questionable also. I am mainly aware of the player who have played for the doggies but there must be other players running around in the SANFL for other clubs ina similar situation. Being played out of position What crap.

[sydney-dog]

doggies4eva

I agree Dew is best served in a position you can punish sides with his foot skills, he can kick the ball a long way and you can use this to beat the flood.....

The issue is, at SANFL level you can play Dew on a wing and not get exposed, but I don't think he has the engine to play on the wing at AFL level, I don't think he breaks the lines and he definitely does not have the two way run that is required.

So where is he best served, HB is an option, here he can hit targets in the forward 50m from 60m away, but I would play him across HF, I remember Dew playing HF in the doggies GF, but if you play him across HF you don't expect 20 touches, you expect 10 quality touches that result in goals or goal assists

[sydney-dog]

my other issue with the power is, I don't think they thought through the issue of recruiting Motlop

The reason I say this is because I do not think the Power can carry, Dew, Motlop and Hahoney in the same side, purely because they are flankers who do not have the engine to go in the midfield.

When you confirm these three with the Crows Flankers, Knights, Van Berlo, Rielley,Shirley, Rielly, Goody, Skippy, Macca, Edwards, Burton, Mattner, the crows have so much more flexibility in rotating trheir midfield of HB or HF, if you have midfielders playing off HB or HF, it gives you so much strength on every line

[JK]

I'd often thought Dew should be spending more time across HF SD, but I don't think he can really command a permanent position there as he's not overly strong in contested marking, and given the numbers nearly every team throws back there he isn't going to find the space he requires until their midfield and halfback line get back to moving the ball quicker and with more precision ... I would stick with him playing the sweeping role across half-back that will see him venture goal-side of centre on occasions throughout the games ...

[BubblesOfBlue]

Absolutely agree with you SD the power certainly lack enough players who will work all day and win footy games, surely Dew would get a game as the flanker though?

[doggies4eva]

I thought that these days most AFL clubs use the rotation so permanent half forward flankers are a rare breed!

[sydney-dog]

Constance_Perm

I agree on your view, Dew is not that strong in a contested mark situation, but if your playing three talls up front I don't think it is a small forwards job to split packs and take contested marks, his role is at ground level, getting front and centre