All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

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Is this racism?

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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby Q. » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:14 pm

HH3 wrote:Where one group of people are given a bigger advantage and assistance, just based on their race, and nothing else.


White people in every day life? Why, yes.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby cripple » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:17 pm

Lets be honest, it never has been an all Australian team because most who make the all Australian side are either "injured" or not suited to the hybrid game so don't play. Some like the trip to ireland but they only go once or twice. By taking this path, those in charge have created some meaning for the concept and actually placed some pride in the jumper for the time being. It's a bit late to cry about perceived rascism because the opportunity has been there in the past and many have refused it


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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby HH3 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:27 pm

Q. wrote:
HH3 wrote:Where one group of people are given a bigger advantage and assistance, just based on their race, and nothing else.


White people in every day life? Why, yes.


Talking about footy here mate. I dont see anyone on an AFL list as disadvantaged.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby Psyber » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:05 pm

Is it a study/test to try to find out whether the Irish are racist? ;)
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby saintal » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:59 pm

Mickey Mouse sporting event, and that was before this ridiculous "selection criteria" was introduced.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby westozfalcon » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:10 pm

Can you imagine the NBA sending an all-Caucasian composite team out to Australia play the Boomers.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby cripple » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:20 pm

Pretty sure the NZRU have sent teams away as NZ Maori so this isn't a first by any stretch.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby on the rails » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:44 am

westozfalcon wrote:Can you imagine the NBA sending an all-Caucasian composite team out to Australia play the Boomers.


Or an all African-American team....oh hang on they do! :lol:
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:45 am

cripple wrote:Pretty sure the NZRU have sent teams away as NZ Maori so this isn't a first by any stretch.


Yep but the don't call them the New Zealand All-blacks, they play under the NZ Maori banner
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby Q. » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:13 am

whufc wrote:
cripple wrote:Pretty sure the NZRU have sent teams away as NZ Maori so this isn't a first by any stretch.


Yep but the don't call them the New Zealand All-blacks, they play under the NZ Maori banner


Yeah, and our team is called the Indigenous All-Stars.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:45 am

Q. wrote:
whufc wrote:
cripple wrote:Pretty sure the NZRU have sent teams away as NZ Maori so this isn't a first by any stretch.


Yep but the don't call them the New Zealand All-blacks, they play under the NZ Maori banner


Yeah, and our team is called the Indigenous All-Stars.


Exactly, which is the only reason I'm not to fussed by it
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:05 pm

Hondo wrote:
HH3 wrote:Apparently the AFL are sending an all Aboriginal team to Ireland

Is it racist to deny people the opportunity to play for their country because of the colour of their skin?

Serious question....


The answer to your question as you've conveniently worded it is of course, yes

But is that what an all-aboriginal team would be ... Australia's national team where white skinned people are denied the opportunity of playing for Australia? No.

We already have a National team for all sports that is not based on skin colour. Outside of the official national sides, in my mind you are allowed to make up teams however you want so long as the motivation is not racist referring to the definition I just posted. Who cares? Make an all red-headed team for all I care.

It's like saying an all-girls school is sexist.


You could be on to something there, an all red-headed team going to Ireland.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby Dog_ger » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:24 pm

Trader wrote:As we saw with the Adam Goodes Saga, the intention of the action doesn't matter, but how it is taken.
Given some people are offended by it, then the answer is clearly yes, it is racist.


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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby gadj1976 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:19 pm

HH3 wrote:
Failed Creation wrote:I agree with what you're saying. The question has to be asked.

If it was an all-white team (picked on that basis, of course) going to Ireland, there'd be a media uproar.


Yeah thats what I was thinking too.

It just seems the AFL seem to be over-complicating what "equality" is.

I saw this the other day. Kinda sums up what equality is.

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One correction to that HH3, it's not justice, it's common sense.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:21 pm

Yep would have been a huge uproar if we sent a British heritage side to take on the irish
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby cripple » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:39 pm

Not if their was some reason for it or something to celebrate about being british. You would also have players of mixed ancestry represent the team e.g. andrew mcleod and his Scottish heritage, so it wouldn't be racist unless you said white players only.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:25 am

Q. wrote:
HH3 wrote:Where one group of people are given a bigger advantage and assistance, just based on their race, and nothing else.


White people in every day life? Why, yes.

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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby AFLflyer » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:52 am

Arguments like this really pi## me off, especially coming from the white middleclass MAJORITY.
AFL has something unique in that 10% of the players are indigenous, nothing close to numbers in society. Why not celebrate that fact and get behind them.
To suggest this is racism is absurd!
The indigenous youth need these roll models to represent their culture on the world stage and give them something to inspire towards. Nothing but a positive move, even though its in a micky mouse competition.
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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby Q. » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:58 am

AFLflyer wrote:Arguments like this are pi## me off, especially coming from the white middleclass MAJORITY.
AFL has something unique in that 10% of the players are indigenous, nothing close to numbers in society. Why not celebrate that fact and get behind them.
To suggest this is racism is absurd!
The indigenous youth need these roll models to represent their culture on the world stage and give them something to inspire towards. Nothing but a positive move, even though its in a micky mouse competition.


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Re: All Aboriginal Team to take on Ireland

Postby Hefty » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:19 pm

Q. wrote:
HH3 wrote:Where one group of people are given a bigger advantage and assistance, just based on their race, and nothing else.


White people in every day life? Why, yes.


Geez you talk some sh!t Q. There is not enough room on this page to highlight the 'assistance' indigenous australians get!
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