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Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:50 pm
by Jim05
Ted E Bear wrote:Wouldn't the Carlton Crew help them out financialy?

The days of Mokbel and the crew funding Carlton are long gone

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:26 pm
by Ted E Bear
Any news from Carlton this morning?

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:26 pm
by gadj1976
Ted E Bear wrote:Any news from Carlton this morning?


tumbleweeds...

The President is backing the coach. He should, he masterminded the whole bloody thing!

Captain says Mick's the man for the job.

Luke Darcy said recently that it's a 5 or 6 year rebuild and that they should extend Malthouse. But he's 60 already!

Now I hear we're in the market for Frawley at 800k per year. No doubt we'll give up something ridiculous for him.

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:31 pm
by Ted E Bear
Robbo wasn't to happy with Mick last night on 360.
He claims Mick had a meeting with the board and Mick put it plain and simple this list is 'no good' but continued to sell 'the dream' to members

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:33 pm
by gadj1976
Ted E Bear wrote:Robbo wasn't to happy with Mick last night on 360.
He claims Mick had a meeting with the board and Mick put it plain and simple this list is 'no good' but continued to sell 'the dream' to members


Was that just on? I've flicked it to 504 to watch it now.

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:34 pm
by Ted E Bear
last night, would be a replay now yes.

I think you would have missed it, think it was early in the show

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:39 pm
by gadj1976
Ted E Bear wrote:last night, would be a replay now yes.

I think you would have missed it, think it was early in the show


cool, cheers I'll watch with interest.

Interesting Mick is saying the list is no good. Almost played in a prelim three years ago with the same squad - only "improved" by his draft choices!

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:42 pm
by Ted E Bear
If you were president what would you do at carlton gadg?

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:43 pm
by Jim05
Finey on SEN had me in stitches last night. Said Mick can be a little prickly at times, then he said na he is just a prick

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:49 pm
by Jim05
Ted E Bear wrote:If you were president what would you do at carlton gadg?

Stand down?
Seems that most of the crap decisions have been made by him.
Carlton need a new start, they were a powerhouse in the VFL because they always had the biggest cheque book and just went out and brought flags, now with salary cap and drafts they are finding it harder to do. They thought Judd would be a quick fix and now they think Thomas will be their saviour. Doesnt help that their so called gun top 10 picks havnt gone on with it like many expected. With the ammount of top 10's in that side it either means the selections were poor or that the players have not improved under Carlton's system.
Gibbs, Murphy and co should be elite players in their prime by now

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:58 pm
by Ted E Bear
How much is Thomas getting a year?

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:00 pm
by Jim05
Ted E Bear wrote:How much is Thomas getting a year?

$2.8m over 4 years

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:52 pm
by gadj1976
Ted E Bear wrote:If you were president what would you do at carlton gadg?


Honestly, I don't know.

Sacking coaches does nothing, however we're in situation now were we have a 60 year old coach that will be/is past his prime and won't be around for our next push - if he's in fact saying we've got a shocking list.

NB. personally I don't think we have, I don't think we've recruited well (by position) and have some gaping holes in our list. Those guys we have recruited have added depth but they either haven't developed as well as they should, or haven't been allowed to develop. I understand we have the oldest or near oldest list going around at the moment.


Anyway, I digress. Malthouse will stay - he has to, we have no money to pay him out - unless Mathieson or Edelsten rock up with open cheque books.

So anyway, what would I do. I'd be seeking to get a senior assistant in to Malthouse to take over the reins a la Buckley. I'm not judging that as a success or failure but we have to have some plan. At the moment, I don't see one!

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:56 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
Out of curiosity, if Carlton sacked Malthouse and paid him out, would it matter where they got the money from to pay him out?

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:01 pm
by bennymacca
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Out of curiosity, if Carlton sacked Malthouse and paid him out, would it matter where they got the money from to pay him out?


Given there is no cap on football department spending just yet, no

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:13 pm
by Ted E Bear
What about approaching John Elliot for the coin ?

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:14 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
Who would Carlton get to coach then though if they got rid of Malthouse?

Surely new coach mid season isn't in the best interests of the footy club!?

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:14 pm
by Jim05
bennymacca wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Out of curiosity, if Carlton sacked Malthouse and paid him out, would it matter where they got the money from to pay him out?


Given there is no cap on football department spending just yet, no

Wont ever be a cap and nor should there be.
May be a luxury tax but thats about it.

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:19 pm
by Ted E Bear
Maybe the Carlton Crew could work out another way?

Re: Carlton 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:22 pm
by bennymacca
Jim05 wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Out of curiosity, if Carlton sacked Malthouse and paid him out, would it matter where they got the money from to pay him out?


Given there is no cap on football department spending just yet, no

Wont ever be a cap and nor should there be.
May be a luxury tax but thats about it.


well they are talking about it