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bennymacca wrote:This is true, but he definitely isn’t.

West coast did pretty well in getting vardy Petrie and Giles for basically nothing and it helped them compensate for the shitty durability of their rucks.

Reckon port could have done the same.

Reckon it’s poor planning on ports part given they traded away their two backup rucks (lobbe and trengove) and clearly didn’t have faith in frampton yet

Jordan Roughead, Zac Smith, Tom Nicholls, reckon there are a few around that could be gettable as a backup for next year and port should look at that if they don’t get Lycett.

bennymacca wrote:

The Bedge wrote:It's all what ifs and hindsight is always so wonderful.

If Ryder was as durable as Jacobs it wouldn't have been a talking point.

This is true, but he definitely isn’t.

West coast did pretty well in getting vardy Petrie and Giles for basically nothing and it helped them compensate for the shitty durability of their rucks.

Reckon port could have done the same.

Reckon it’s poor planning on ports part given they traded away their two backup rucks (lobbe and trengove) and clearly didn’t have faith in frampton yet

Jordan Roughead, Zac Smith, Tom Nicholls, reckon there are a few around that could be gettable as a backup for next year and port should look at that if they don’t get Lycett.

The Bedge wrote:

Booney wrote:Hartlett, Houston, Bonner, Pittard, Broadbent all have 50m legs on them, why oh ******* why they've been asked to chip-chip-chip 20m at a time to each other in the back half isn't using their best weapons to effect. We have to move the ball faster with more purpose from the back half.

Flow on, the forwards are leading up, doubling back, leading up, going in ******* circles and the opposition midfield drops back to outnumber us ahead of the ball and we cough it up under pressure..

Most sides setup their zones pretty quickly, as seen on occasions this year, the "chip-chip-chip" style, whilst frustrating, does force the zones to roll and readjust, and once Port can find an opening then they've broken and gone fast/long.

Biggest downside to this IMO, is that when they break and go, they are trying to pump a 50m+ kick from the middle of the ground over the back of the zone and the result is a chaos ball on Dixon's head. The upside however, is the ball is ahead of majority players which allows time for forwards to push in and pressure while the defenders are able to set up their zone effectively and quickly.

Forwards leading up, and going in circles as you said, also forces movement from opposition players to disrupt their zones - without repeat leading patterns Port would be absolutely stuffed.

Genuine outside leg speed + efficient mids is the biggest issue for Port I think - SPP, Wines, Rockliff might win the inside hard ball, but when it comes to foot skills they're (more SPP & Wines) pretty bloody ordinary. Win a clearance and it's just a slam on the boot ineffective kick down the line.

Brodlach wrote:

Dutchy wrote:

Brodlach wrote:I guarantee that even if Lobbe didn’t got to Carlton he wouldn’t have been on the Power’s list this season

Why? he was contracted

Agreement was made

bennymacca wrote:So what’s happened to him then?

Booney wrote:Time for the coach(es) to implement a game plan that suits the playing group.

Hartlett, Houston, Bonner, Pittard, Broadbent all have 50m legs on them, why oh ******* why they've been asked to chip-chip-chip 20m at a time to each other in the back half isn't using their best weapons to effect. We have to move the ball faster with more purpose from the back half.

Flow on, the forwards are leading up, doubling back, leading up, going in ******* circles and the opposition midfield drops back to outnumber us ahead of the ball and we cough it up under pressure.

Flow on from that is we've got a wall built up of our mids and defenders and clubs struggle to score against us, 2nd best defence last year, 3rd best at the moment. Half our game works. The movement from defence is slow, sloppy and gives our forwards no chance.

My biggest concern is the midfield, we're second for clearances so the likes of Wines, Wingard, SPP, Rockliff etc do their job on the inside but we're lacking in outside run and pace in general. We don't have enough outside runners or really quick mids who can burst away from contests.

Ryder my biggest concern, we haven't got any back up ruckman for a bloke going 30 with an achilles that will need to be managed for the rest of his days. Lycett has to be a priority.

Booney wrote:I fully appreciate the intent of the chip-chip-chip and find myself waiting for the inevitable breakdown of ball movement because of it. Our foot skills when trying to possess the ball are not anywhere near as good as our foot skills when we move the ball with intent. We move the ball long and direct and we can then get our defensive zone up high on the wing and lock it in. This works for us.

Booney wrote:I'm happy to chip-chip if there's a risk taken at the end of the chain to transfer the play around the zone, we don't do that. We invariably kick down the line to an outnumbered contest and our defence can't get the zone high and we're vulnerable.

daysofourlives wrote:

Booney wrote:Time for the coach(es) to implement a game plan that suits the playing group.

Hartlett, Houston, Bonner, Pittard, Broadbent all have 50m legs on them, why oh ******* why they've been asked to chip-chip-chip 20m at a time to each other in the back half isn't using their best weapons to effect. We have to move the ball faster with more purpose from the back half.

Flow on, the forwards are leading up, doubling back, leading up, going in ******* circles and the opposition midfield drops back to outnumber us ahead of the ball and we cough it up under pressure.

Flow on from that is we've got a wall built up of our mids and defenders and clubs struggle to score against us, 2nd best defence last year, 3rd best at the moment. Half our game works. The movement from defence is slow, sloppy and gives our forwards no chance.

My biggest concern is the midfield, we're second for clearances so the likes of Wines, Wingard, SPP, Rockliff etc do their job on the inside but we're lacking in outside run and pace in general. We don't have enough outside runners or really quick mids who can burst away from contests.

Ryder my biggest concern, we haven't got any back up ruckman for a bloke going 30 with an achilles that will need to be managed for the rest of his days. Lycett has to be a priority.

#coachinwaiting

daysofourlives wrote:

Booney wrote:Time for the coach(es) to implement a game plan that suits the playing group.

Hartlett, Houston, Bonner, Pittard, Broadbent all have 50m legs on them, why oh ******* why they've been asked to chip-chip-chip 20m at a time to each other in the back half isn't using their best weapons to effect. We have to move the ball faster with more purpose from the back half.

Flow on, the forwards are leading up, doubling back, leading up, going in ******* circles and the opposition midfield drops back to outnumber us ahead of the ball and we cough it up under pressure.

Flow on from that is we've got a wall built up of our mids and defenders and clubs struggle to score against us, 2nd best defence last year, 3rd best at the moment. Half our game works. The movement from defence is slow, sloppy and gives our forwards no chance.

My biggest concern is the midfield, we're second for clearances so the likes of Wines, Wingard, SPP, Rockliff etc do their job on the inside but we're lacking in outside run and pace in general. We don't have enough outside runners or really quick mids who can burst away from contests.

Ryder my biggest concern, we haven't got any back up ruckman for a bloke going 30 with an achilles that will need to be managed for the rest of his days. Lycett has to be a priority.

#coachinwaiting

Dutchy wrote:

Brodlach wrote:

Dutchy wrote:

Brodlach wrote:I guarantee that even if Lobbe didn’t got to Carlton he wouldn’t have been on the Power’s list this season

Why? he was contracted

Agreement was made

to do what?

bennymacca wrote:Not hats Morrell?

stan wrote:

bennymacca wrote:Not hats Morrell?

No that's Morrell. What's wrong with you today Benny.

stan wrote:

bennymacca wrote:Not hats Morrell?

No that's Morrell. What's wrong with you today Benny.

Armchair expert wrote:Brendon Lade doesn't come across well in the media, thoughts on him Power fans?