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Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:41 am
by HH3
What? Are they suggesting the players are going to struggle with costs of living while earning $400k plus? Poor blokes...

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:42 am
by Booney
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Hopefully the allowance is increased. Only fair when comparing house prices in Alberton too Surry Hills.


Only fair when comparing house prices in Toorak Melbourne, or New Farm Brisbane, or Sorrento in Perth to Surry Hills. It's outdated and needs to be reviewed.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:43 am
by Booney
HH3 wrote:What? Are they suggesting the players are going to struggle with costs of living while earning $400k plus? Poor blokes...


Exactly. Why should AFL footballers be given compensations that no other person who works receives?

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:56 am
by GWW
Come on, Sydney and Brisbane are in northern states developing AFL markets - we need to keep propping them up with BS excuses.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:58 am
by Booney
GWW wrote:Come on, Sydney and Brisbane are in northern states developing AFL markets - we need to keep propping them up with BS excuses.


5 of the 13 flags and 7 of the 13 GF's since 2000. They're doing ok.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:00 am
by Panther32
Booney wrote:
HH3 wrote:What? Are they suggesting the players are going to struggle with costs of living while earning $400k plus? Poor blokes...


Exactly. Why should AFL footballers be given compensations that no other person who works receives?

Not so sure about that. With all the companies I have worked for which have offices in both NSW and SA, NSW employees always got paid more due to living expenses being more.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:55 pm
by TEX07
Panther32 wrote:
Booney wrote:
HH3 wrote:What? Are they suggesting the players are going to struggle with costs of living while earning $400k plus? Poor blokes...


Exactly. Why should AFL footballers be given compensations that no other person who works receives?

Not so sure about that. With all the companies I have worked for which have offices in both NSW and SA, NSW employees always got paid more due to living expenses being more.


My problem with this isnt the cost of living bonus it is how it seems they are using it. To offer $1mil a season for 4 years seems a lot like where this is going and this would never have been the reason they recieved it.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:05 pm
by GWW
If the AFL truly was seriously about this sort of thing, they would calculate salary caps based on the CPI for all clubs.

All clubs in different states would have a different salary cap (unless prices/costs were the same in different states), and it would fluctuate from year to year according to current inflationary trends.

..and when real estate prices dipped, the clubs in that state would have a corresponding dip in their salary cap.

http://smh.domain.com.au/real-estate-ne ... 21yxs.html

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:25 pm
by scoob
GWW wrote:If the AFL truly was seriously about this sort of thing, they would calculate salary caps based on the CPI for all clubs.

All clubs in different states would have a different salary cap (unless prices/costs were the same in different states), and it would fluctuate from year to year according to current inflationary trends.

..and when real estate prices dipped, the clubs in that state would have a corresponding dip in their salary cap.

http://smh.domain.com.au/real-estate-ne ... 21yxs.html


What about the price of bread or pasta... or sleeping tablets or a gram of coke?

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:30 pm
by HH3
Seriously, when we're talking about people earning that much money, cost of living shouldnt even matter. I dont think any Sydney player that gets regular game time is going to struggle to pay their bills in Sydney. Say Tippet gets $500k a year, thats $9,615 a WEEK!!! Im sure he wont be shopping at Rite Price...

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:31 pm
by Baron Greenback
Booney wrote:
GWW wrote:Come on, Sydney and Brisbane are in northern states developing AFL markets - we need to keep propping them up with BS excuses.


5 of the 13 flags and 7 of the 13 GF's since 2000. They're doing ok.


We've struggled since Ed got it taken away from us.
Plus other things....cough Fev cough.... :lol:

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:04 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
Port 2 GFs in 9 years. 1 flag. Not too bad.

Hope they do bring in a cpi/real estate cost of living linked salary cap. Like I have said, Swans will get more money to play with.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:19 pm
by scoob
Maybe it should be based on time since last flag was won...

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:35 pm
by Mr Beefy
scoob wrote:Maybe it should be based on time since last flag was won...

Fremantle's salary cap would be unlimited

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:23 pm
by Sky Pilot
You could count Footscray and Melbourne to that list. Hopeless and should be relocated to Canberra and Hobart and given a few bucks (like Ports) and told to start again.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:16 pm
by Rik E Boy
Sky Pilot wrote:You could count Footscray and Melbourne to that list. Hopeless and should be relocated to Canberra and Hobart and given a few bucks (like Ports) and told to start again.


Your lot hasn't been all that much better in the last ten years. Twentieth century is over dude.

regards,

REB

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:47 am
by Hondo
So Sydney won't let go of Grundy or Reid and now some senior players are rumbling about the club's decision to go after Tippett because of the impact on the "culture" and I guess because they realise one of their premiership mates is likely going to have to go to do the trade.

Anyone else reminded of Ryan O'Keefe's attempt to move to Hawthorn? That was announced as a done deal but a few weeks later he wasn't a Hawk because Hawthorn didn't want to trade any premiership stars and so the trade fell over. ROK I guess had to skulk back to his team-mates but now a few years on has another premiership medal.

I reckon Sydney and Tippett assumed the alleged agreement on the 2nd round draft pick (meant to apply if he shifted to the GC) would get it done.

I'll call it first - I reckon there's a chance Tippett will end up somewhere other than Sydney. Slim chance I think, but a chance.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:51 am
by heater31
Hondo wrote:So Sydney won't let go of Grundy or Reid and now some senior players are rumbling about the club's decision to go after Tippett because of the impact on the "culture" and I guess because they realise one of their premiership mates is likely going to have to go to do the trade.

Anyone else reminded of Ryan O'Keefe's attempt to move to Hawthorn? That was announced as a done deal but a few weeks later he wasn't a Hawk because Hawthorn didn't want to trade any premiership stars and so the trade fell over. ROK I guess had to skulk back to his team-mates but now a few years on has another premiership medal.

I reckon Sydney and Tippett assumed the alleged agreement on the 2nd round draft pick (meant to apply if he shifted to the GC) would get it done.

I'll call it first - I reckon there's a chance Tippett will end up somewhere other than Sydney. Slim chance I think, but a chance.


Or even worse he stays put :shock:

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:59 am
by Hondo
I doubt it but stranger things have happened

ROK was all over Hawthorn, wanted out of Sydney, had to move to Melbourne for lifestyle reasons, etc, etc

Then 3 weeks later he was still stuck at Sydney because Sydney rightly played hardball with Hawthorn who were pinching one of their best players but didn't want to give anything decent up for him.

Re: Kurt Tippett's playing future?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:14 am
by scoob
Hondo wrote:I doubt it but stranger things have happened

ROK was all over Hawthorn, wanted out of Sydney, had to move to Melbourne for lifestyle reasons, etc, etc

Then 3 weeks later he was still stuck at Sydney because Sydney rightly played hardball with Hawthorn who were pinching one of their best players but didn't want to give anything decent up for him.


Yeah but he is out of contract isnt he? if he doesnt make it to sydney and adelaide play hard ball off to the PSD ala nick stevens... or am I barking up the wrong tree?