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Dutchy wrote:There has been some to and fro between the parties but at the end of the day the AFL is leading and mediating this

Which is fine but i also don't think it would be unreasonable for the accusers to want an independent investigation.

Dutchy wrote:

daysofourlives wrote:From what i can gather, the people making the allegations arent willing to speak to the investigators, correct??

Now if this was anyone else, any other group of people, they would be told if youre not going to speak we will have no other option but to close the investigation and move on. Not that this helps Clarkson, Fagan or Burt as mud sticks but this is the way it should go. The tip toeing through the tulips because the accusers are indigenous is the problem here. None of this is politically correct so its not an option the AFL will take.

The indigenous lads have been let down by the AFL also here, 8 months and nothing has happened, 8 months and zero leadership by the AFL.

Jordan Lewis was very strong on 360 tonight about how the Hawks have handled this, sounds like they have made some serious errors here.

Frustratingly North cop the fall out from this despite having no role in it at all.

What realistically can the AFL do if the indigenous lads refuse to be interviewed as has been mentioned?

Isnt it that they are unwilling to be interviewed as part of an AFL run investigation.

If it was an independent investigation, they would have no problems being interviewed.

amber_fluid wrote:

Dutchy wrote:

daysofourlives wrote:From what i can gather, the people making the allegations arent willing to speak to the investigators, correct??

Now if this was anyone else, any other group of people, they would be told if youre not going to speak we will have no other option but to close the investigation and move on. Not that this helps Clarkson, Fagan or Burt as mud sticks but this is the way it should go. The tip toeing through the tulips because the accusers are indigenous is the problem here. None of this is politically correct so its not an option the AFL will take.

The indigenous lads have been let down by the AFL also here, 8 months and nothing has happened, 8 months and zero leadership by the AFL.

Jordan Lewis was very strong on 360 tonight about how the Hawks have handled this, sounds like they have made some serious errors here.

Frustratingly North cop the fall out from this despite having no role in it at all.

What realistically can the AFL do if the indigenous lads refuse to be interviewed as has been mentioned?

Close it and move on.

amber_fluid wrote:

Dutchy wrote:

daysofourlives wrote:From what i can gather, the people making the allegations arent willing to speak to the investigators, correct??

Now if this was anyone else, any other group of people, they would be told if youre not going to speak we will have no other option but to close the investigation and move on. Not that this helps Clarkson, Fagan or Burt as mud sticks but this is the way it should go. The tip toeing through the tulips because the accusers are indigenous is the problem here. None of this is politically correct so its not an option the AFL will take.

The indigenous lads have been let down by the AFL also here, 8 months and nothing has happened, 8 months and zero leadership by the AFL.

Jordan Lewis was very strong on 360 tonight about how the Hawks have handled this, sounds like they have made some serious errors here.

Frustratingly North cop the fall out from this despite having no role in it at all.

What realistically can the AFL do if the indigenous lads refuse to be interviewed as has been mentioned?

Perhaps they will take it to court and out of the AFL’s hands

It was reported 4 months ago that most of the families had agreed to take part in the league's investigation.
I can understand why some wouldn't since they'd already taken part in Hawthorn's investigation and none of the findings were acted upon nor did it remain confidential.
Let's not assinate the true victims here.

Isn't one of the main holdups because the author of the original report won't take part but that is because he signed a non-disclosure agreement with Hawthorn when writing the review?

Going by Jordan Lewis's reaction last night the main source of everyone's anger atm is the Hawthorn Footy Club.

Wedgie wrote:It was reported 4 months ago that most of the families had agreed to take part in the league's investigation.
I can understand why some wouldn't since they'd already taken part in Hawthorn's investigation and none of the findings were acted upon nor did it remain confidential.
Let's not assinate the true victims here.

Isn't one of the main holdups because the author of the original report won't take part but that is because he signed a non-disclosure agreement with Hawthorn when writing the review?

Going by Jordan Lewis's reaction last night the main source of everyone's anger atm is the Hawthorn Footy Club.

Jeff Kennett had a different spin on this, on SEN this morning.

Corona Man wrote:

Wedgie wrote:It was reported 4 months ago that most of the families had agreed to take part in the league's investigation.
I can understand why some wouldn't since they'd already taken part in Hawthorn's investigation and none of the findings were acted upon nor did it remain confidential.
Let's not assinate the true victims here.

Isn't one of the main holdups because the author of the original report won't take part but that is because he signed a non-disclosure agreement with Hawthorn when writing the review?

Going by Jordan Lewis's reaction last night the main source of everyone's anger atm is the Hawthorn Footy Club.

Jeff Kennett had a different spin on this, on SEN this morning.

Jeff Kennett would

Wedgie wrote:

Corona Man wrote:

Wedgie wrote:It was reported 4 months ago that most of the families had agreed to take part in the league's investigation.
I can understand why some wouldn't since they'd already taken part in Hawthorn's investigation and none of the findings were acted upon nor did it remain confidential.
Let's not assinate the true victims here.

Isn't one of the main holdups because the author of the original report won't take part but that is because he signed a non-disclosure agreement with Hawthorn when writing the review?

Going by Jordan Lewis's reaction last night the main source of everyone's anger atm is the Hawthorn Footy Club.

Jeff Kennett had a different spin on this, on SEN this morning.

Jeff Kennett would

I didn't even attempt to write what Jeff said. I have no idea where the truth actually lies in all of this. The fact that Clarkson has walked on North now...... what does that imply? We are just mere punters having our 2 cents worth. In some ways I doubt the full truth, either way, will ever be known, nor an acceptable outcome for anyone be achieved. As a previous poster said, the only winners here are the lawyers.

Corona Man wrote:

Wedgie wrote:

Corona Man wrote:

Wedgie wrote:It was reported 4 months ago that most of the families had agreed to take part in the league's investigation.
I can understand why some wouldn't since they'd already taken part in Hawthorn's investigation and none of the findings were acted upon nor did it remain confidential.
Let's not assinate the true victims here.

Isn't one of the main holdups because the author of the original report won't take part but that is because he signed a non-disclosure agreement with Hawthorn when writing the review?

Going by Jordan Lewis's reaction last night the main source of everyone's anger atm is the Hawthorn Footy Club.

Jeff Kennett had a different spin on this, on SEN this morning.

Jeff Kennett would

I didn't even attempt to write what Jeff said. I have no idea where the truth actually lies in all of this. The fact that Clarkson has walked on North now...... what does that imply? We are just mere punters having our 2 cents worth. In some ways I doubt the full truth, either way, will ever be known, nor an acceptable outcome for anyone be achieved. As a previous poster said, the only winners here are the lawyers.

Again!

When do they lose?

The great thing about footy is it looks after its community and its people, except when it gets to the top level it seems. The delays hurt everyone involved in the process and the AFL are the only ones who can (and should) bring this to a head, show some f***ing leadership.

Dutchy wrote:The great thing about footy is it looks after its community and its people, except when it gets to the top level it seems. The delays hurt everyone involved in the process and the AFL are the only ones who can (and should) bring this to a head, show some f***ing leadership.

Leadership from who though
Gill or the Dilll?
Unlikely to come from anyone at afl house.

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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:

Dutchy wrote:The great thing about footy is it looks after its community and its people, except when it gets to the top level it seems. The delays hurt everyone involved in the process and the AFL are the only ones who can (and should) bring this to a head, show some f***ing leadership.

Leadership from who though
Gill or the Dilll?
Unlikely to come from anyone at afl house.

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Any of the 7 executives who all earn $1m+ from the game you would think

Dutchy wrote:

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:

Dutchy wrote:The great thing about footy is it looks after its community and its people, except when it gets to the top level it seems. The delays hurt everyone involved in the process and the AFL are the only ones who can (and should) bring this to a head, show some f***ing leadership.

Leadership from who though
Gill or the Dilll?
Unlikely to come from anyone at afl house.

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Any of the 7 executives who all earn $1m+ from the game you would think

It was put into the hands of the AFL integrity department.... and that's where it's stopped... it would seem.

Corona Man wrote:

Wedgie wrote:It was reported 4 months ago that most of the families had agreed to take part in the league's investigation.
I can understand why some wouldn't since they'd already taken part in Hawthorn's investigation and none of the findings were acted upon nor did it remain confidential.
Let's not assinate the true victims here.

Isn't one of the main holdups because the author of the original report won't take part but that is because he signed a non-disclosure agreement with Hawthorn when writing the review?

Going by Jordan Lewis's reaction last night the main source of everyone's anger atm is the Hawthorn Footy Club.

Jeff Kennett had a different spin on this, on SEN this morning.

The same Kennett that has a collection of over 100 Golliwogs with his favourite one called “Buddy” and dressed in Hawks gear?

Dillon was compromised the day he appointed his great mate Bernard Quinn to run the investigation. He also has three other barristers on the panel. They have subsequently appointed two mediators (despite there not being one minute of mediation, nice work if you can get it).

The daily bill for these six is probably north of 25k per day.

Despite being asked by the client (the AFL) to report by December 31, the gravy train is in full motion. Quinn will not finalise this. Ever.

The sum total of investigation according to Quinn is the panel has conducted multiple interviews (I would say this is probably no more than 4 or he would have quantified it ) and received 20 statements. Yep received.

Quinn has requested 37000 documents from Hawthorn which they expect to receive soon.

Any review of 37000 documents will take an eternity. That's why he has done it.

Clarkson, Fagan and Burt will probably die before they are interviewed.

DOC wrote:Dillon was compromised the day he appointed his great mate Bernard Quinn to run the investigation. He also has three other barristers on the panel. They have subsequently appointed two mediators (despite there not being one minute of mediation, nice work if you can get it).

The daily bill for these six is probably north of 25k per day.

Despite being asked by the client (the AFL) to report by December 31, the gravy train is in full motion. Quinn will not finalise this. Ever.

The sum total of investigation according to Quinn is the panel has conducted multiple interviews (I would say this is probably no more than 4 or he would have quantified it ) and received 20 statements. Yep received.

Quinn has requested 37000 documents from Hawthorn which they expect to receive soon.

Any review of 37000 documents will take an eternity. That's why he has done it.

Clarkson, Fagan and Burt will probably die before they are interviewed.

37000 documents are you ***king kidding me?
I'm thinking some zeros have been accidentally added.

Nope.

Jim05 wrote:

Corona Man wrote:

Wedgie wrote:It was reported 4 months ago that most of the families had agreed to take part in the league's investigation.
I can understand why some wouldn't since they'd already taken part in Hawthorn's investigation and none of the findings were acted upon nor did it remain confidential.
Let's not assinate the true victims here.

Isn't one of the main holdups because the author of the original report won't take part but that is because he signed a non-disclosure agreement with Hawthorn when writing the review?

Going by Jordan Lewis's reaction last night the main source of everyone's anger atm is the Hawthorn Footy Club.

Jeff Kennett had a different spin on this, on SEN this morning.

The same Kennett that has a collection of over 100 Golliwogs with his favourite one called “Buddy” and dressed in Hawks gear?

WTF? I just googled that, it's a thing. Weirdo.

DOC wrote:Nope.

If that number is accurate this won't be sorted for at least another 2 years.
It's a piss take surely.