The Tasmanian Siren Fiasco

[GWW]

to: Brian Cunningham
Are you doing anything at the moment?
from: Andy Demitriou

The AFL had their chance to get Bucky, now hes doing other things.....he wouldnt waste his time now to work for/with a bunch of incompetent fools.

[Footy Chick]

Its all very well to say that the score should stand, but if freo miss the finals on percentage, I could imagine that they would be mighty peeved, or alternatavely if the saints made the finals due to the 2 points they shouldnt have recieved.

It would also peeve a lot of other clubs off as well if they got a home final based on the 2 points they just shouldnt have got.

The blokes on the investigation committee need to look at the long term effect of throwing it in the too hard basket and just keeping the draw.

The TAB will spew if they have to pay out on freo winning AS WELL as the draw...they'll go broke!

[MightyEagles]

What if they reverse the result and the Saints miss out on the finals they would be upset that they missed out. The Saints would miss out is they had they same No of wins as the team above them in 8th.

[Booney]

Its all very well to say that the score should stand, but if freo miss the finals on percentage, I could imagine that they would be mighty peeved, or alternatavely if the saints made the finals due to the 2 points they shouldnt have recieved.

It would also peeve a lot of other clubs off as well if they got a home final based on the 2 points they just shouldnt have got.

The blokes on the investigation committee need to look at the long term effect of throwing it in the too hard basket and just keeping the draw.

The TAB will spew if they have to pay out on freo winning AS WELL as the draw...they'll go broke!

The TAB could fund a week of the war in Iraq,they wont go broke.How many people do you think would have backed the draw,then how many on Freo?

[doggies4eva]

They are in a no-win situation. Half the footy community thinks that fairness should prevail and Freo gets the points and the other half think that the rules should prevail which says that the umpire has control of the game not the time-keeper so the situation should remain as is.

I wonder if they can dig themselves into any bigger hole?

[Footy Chick]

What if they reverse the result and the Saints miss out on the finals they would be upset that they missed out. The Saints would miss out is they had they same No of wins as the team above them in 8th.

BOO HOO to the Saints, they should have played better football

Well of course they would miss out, cos they would have finished 9th

St Kilda can crack as many hissey fits as they like, at the end of the day they wouldnt have deserved to be there if thats the case, its all about percentage.


Crack open another tinny Mightyeagles.. .

[sydney-dog]

Your right, it is a no win situation, but for me we need to apply the current rules that govern our game, if we fail to do this it could create even more chaos for the future, everytime their is a touch and go decision near the siren, we will have supporters storming the ground demanding a protest, this is why this part of the game has always been controlled by the umps.......

I just can't understand, that with all this technology that is available these days, why can't the umps have some sort of sensor that alerts them when the siren has sounded, maybe a 100 volt electric shock......

In all serious, if we can minimise the manual intervention, this may minimise the risk of this happening again

[Rik E Boy]

LMAO Go Fashion Chick you are on fire

A tough one for the AFL but it isn't making life any easier by getting the highly unconvincing Adrian Anderson to say bugger all the other night while Andy D hid behind the petition. Absolute farce with the Dockers ripped off. However, if they give the Docks the four points then they are actually ripping the Saints off as the game isn't deemed to be over until the officials hear the siren.

No the draw should stand and improvements must be made to ensure this farce is not repeated again. Expect the poor Tassie timekeeper to be the sacrifical lamb.

regards,

REB

[Footy Chick]

LMAO Go Fashion Chick you are on fire


No the draw should stand and improvements must be made to ensure this farce is not repeated again. Expect the poor Tassie timekeeper to be the sacrifical lamb.

regards,

REB

What the hell......lets just give 'em both 4 points

[sydney-dog]

it wasn't a poor tassie time keeper, it was an official from the AFL from Victoria who was on a junket officiating at the game

[doggies4eva]

Didn't anyone ever tell the Freo players you keep playing until the ump blows the whistle?

[sydney-dog]

Question

If the AFL commission awards the four points to Freo, given that after the match the AFL also authorised betting agencies to pay the draw, what happens here, do these agencies also pay the froe win....

How much will this impact on the AFL's decision ?

[doggies4eva]

Question

If the AFL commission awards the four points to Freo, given that after the match the AFL also authorised betting agencies to pay the draw, what happens here, do these agencies also pay the froe win....

How much will this impact on the AFL's decision ?

I expect that the agencies will have to pay out on the amended result and will then claim damages from the AFL for the stuff up.

[JK]

Didn't anyone ever tell the Freo players you keep playing until the ump blows the whistle?

The message I'd received in 20 years of playing the game was to play to the whistle in terms of free kicks, however we were instructed to fight every game out until the final siren ... I'm pretty sure they did that ..

[stan]

The result from the AFL commision. Freo wins the game. They ruled the game ended whens the siren went, and hence the points go to freo.

[spell_check]

Plenty of times when the siren has gone in any comp in the past the game hasn't finished.

I'm surprised they gave them the win, but I'm not really bothered that they have.

As long as this doesn't happen in the SANFL, I'm fine.

[sydney-dog]

Legally it goes against the rules of the game
but obviously the afl have ruled that it is an issue of fairness, this ruling would also indicate that the afl take full responsibility in what has occured, so someone should lose their job over this

im betting that it wont be anderson

[Mr66]

Justice is done. And I support St.Kilda.

[duncs7]

This was the best result for the AFL. They will cop less flak for the rest of the week coz most people supported the Freo win.
Thats what its all about. Keeping the heat off as much as possible.

[sydney-dog]

they may cop less flack from the public but it leaves them with greater legal risk, the AFL will be banking on that St Kilda will not take additional legal action, maybe the wont unless they miss out on the top 4 or top 8 by percentage only