Crows v Power

Talk on the national game

Postby stan » Sun May 07, 2006 2:47 pm

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wishiwas wrote:just on port (as much as i hate to), who is missing from there premiership team?
the ones i can think of (on top of 10 beers) kingsley, wanganeen, montgomery, carr, james, pickett,


From last night, also...

Wilson, Thurstans, Schofield, Hardwick, Dew.

Season going pretty much as expected.

Wildly inconsistent from one quarter to the next let alone one game to the next.

The kids are showing some promising signs.

Motlop has been disappointing thus far - shades of Byron 2003. But he managed to turn it around halfway through that year. Desperatley need Motlop to do the same.

Short term pain for long-term gain...


Yeah pity the crows are missing, Burton, Welsh, Ruccitio, Torney, Hudson, Bock, and Perrie from their best team.

But let me guess only two of those are premiership players so they don't count I susppose.......


When the cows get those players back then they will be quite formitable. Bock back at CHB will enable McGregor to push forward and if Welsh can get fit then the forward lines looks damn fine. Although it seems to be working well at the moment lol.
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Postby RoostersRuleTheWorld ! » Sun May 07, 2006 2:58 pm

:D Great win Fruit Tingles !
Proberly equalivent to a 100 point win in the Dry !
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Postby giffo » Sun May 07, 2006 5:15 pm

Magpiespower wrote:
wishiwas wrote:just on port (as much as i hate to), who is missing from there premiership team?
the ones i can think of (on top of 10 beers) kingsley, wanganeen, montgomery, carr, james, pickett,


From last night, also...

Wilson, Thurstans, Schofield, Hardwick, Dew.
..


I know the picture was hard to see at times bit I'm sure Dew was out there.
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Postby Wedgie » Sun May 07, 2006 5:19 pm

Christ, I'd hardly get excited about Thurstans getting back in the Power side, he wouldn't get a game with North's league side.
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Postby Magpiespower » Sun May 07, 2006 6:24 pm

giffo wrote:
I know the picture was hard to see at times bit I'm sure Dew was out there.


My mistake then.

But let me guess only two of those are premiership players so they don't count I susppose.......


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Postby sydney-dog » Sun May 07, 2006 8:41 pm

I do not think Port's current group of players that have played between 0-50 games are as good as the group in 2000, so I am not sure where the club is heading

Last nights game highlight for me was Maric's goal, and his celebration was what footy is all about
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Postby portentous » Sun May 07, 2006 11:00 pm

The result was pretty much what I expected. Our senior players are performing well below par (except for a couple) and our younger ones haven't come on quickly enough. The Crows are about 2 years ahead of us at the moment.

The wheel will turn again sooner or later-once Riccuito, McLeod, Hart all retire at around the same time.
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Postby sydney-dog » Mon May 08, 2006 7:54 am

No Doubt that one day when Roo, McCleod and Hart retire this will impact the club, but in saying that I am confident that the club is currently executing a succession plan to minimise the impact during that transition period.

Hopefully the likes of Rielly, Van Berlo, Knights, Douglas and Maric will be among our leaders, remembering Rutten is only 22.

Craigy also seems to be developing a culture off the field and a game plan on the field which is not focused on the stars, it's about sharing the load and I think this has been evident in the past couple of wins
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Postby JK » Mon May 08, 2006 10:18 am

I've always thought that the best way to rate a team is to look at their worst 6 players ... During their heyday at Alberton their worst 6 would have made virtually any team in the AFL, such was the consistency and likeness of their group, Crows at a pretty similar stage at the moment ...
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Postby doggies4eva » Mon May 08, 2006 10:50 am

Constance_Perm wrote:I've always thought that the best way to rate a team is to look at their worst 6 players ... During their heyday at Alberton their worst 6 would have made virtually any team in the AFL, such was the consistency and likeness of their group, Crows at a pretty similar stage at the moment ...


They've got some reasonable young players. They need to get a decent coach.
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Postby JK » Mon May 08, 2006 11:36 am

doggies4eva wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:I've always thought that the best way to rate a team is to look at their worst 6 players ... During their heyday at Alberton their worst 6 would have made virtually any team in the AFL, such was the consistency and likeness of their group, Crows at a pretty similar stage at the moment ...


They've got some reasonable young players. They need to get a decent coach.


Not denying that mate, and I'm sure they'll progress to be very good AFL players, but at the moment I think their worst 6 tapers off .. To be honest I think they've also got several of the experienced players performing inconsistently and perhaps on name alone ...
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Postby Booney » Mon May 08, 2006 11:40 am

The exact same thing could have been said about the Crows 3 years ago CP,the tide has turned in the Crows favour,their turn for a tilt at the flag,and our chance to rebuild a core group for a shot at it again in 3 or 4 years.

Just goes to show,as Port and Brisbane have this season,you have to make hay while the sun shines,or its a long way back.
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Postby JK » Mon May 08, 2006 11:53 am

Agreed Booney, and I addressed that in my initial post .. The draft pretty much ensures the competition is cyclic these days, and I certainly think the Crows and Power are mirrir images of one another from a few years back, hell Brisbane are a shadow of their former selves these days and it was only about 30 games ago they were playing for their 4th consecutive flag!!

Certainly not trying to slag the Power, just calling it as I see it.
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Postby Booney » Mon May 08, 2006 12:28 pm

I know you weren't slagging us mate.I think most footy fans knew what the out come was going to be Saturday night,hence the lack of build up,probably the quietest lead up to a Showdown ever.

As you said,the draft ensures a cycle of success,the secret is not to have to go from top to 14/15th before you rise up again.The problem with finishing 9th to 14th is you get no draft picks,are hardly attractive to players looking for a move,and sponsors dont exactly come out of the woodwork.As Essendon have shown,you dont want to get stuck in this bracket for too long.
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Postby BubblesOfBlue » Mon May 08, 2006 1:42 pm

Good point Booney about the quiet build up for the showdown I had not really thought about it but normally it is all you hear about. Would be great if Port and Crows could get in more similar cycle so they are either both strong or both struggling to make great showdowns!!
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Postby Blue Boy » Mon May 08, 2006 1:56 pm

I thought some of the second tier players stood up for the crows on the weekend

Doughty played his best game for the club - Hentschel played very well in the conditions and I thought Van berlo is reaping the rewards with more game time.

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Postby JK » Mon May 08, 2006 2:45 pm

Booney wrote:I know you weren't slagging us mate.I think most footy fans knew what the out come was going to be Saturday night,hence the lack of build up,probably the quietest lead up to a Showdown ever.

As you said,the draft ensures a cycle of success,the secret is not to have to go from top to 14/15th before you rise up again.The problem with finishing 9th to 14th is you get no draft picks,are hardly attractive to players looking for a move,and sponsors dont exactly come out of the woodwork.As Essendon have shown,you dont want to get stuck in this bracket for too long.


Yep agreed mate, although changes to the BS Priority Pick rule might alleviate this somewhat.
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Postby Magpiespower » Mon May 08, 2006 4:52 pm

It was only last year that everyone was tipping the Crows to finish bottom three.

Things can turn around quick - all you need is a strong nucleus to build around and you can be back up there in 2-3 years.

Both Essendon and Adelaide in recent times are proof of that.
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Postby doggies4eva » Tue May 09, 2006 11:21 am

I'm not sure that draft picks are the whole story. Do draft picks 1 - 20 always do better than picks 21 - 40?

Surely with a population base the size of Australia the are more than 50 or 60 potential AFL players coming through each year?
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