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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby bennymacca » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:12 pm

Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:I have been downloading the whateley podcast, been good


yep outstanding, I reminder that there are some actual journalist's out there, he gets some brilliant guests on there also (probably cause they know they won't get hysterical questioning)


yep, i enjoy his interview style. reasoned and thoughtful.

its an hour long cut down version of what i presume is a 3 hour show (mostly all of the talkback is taken out)

i almost want to hear the talkback given how well gerard would interact with them.

may have to start streaming it live too
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Fricky » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:32 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:I have been downloading the whateley podcast, been good


yep outstanding, I reminder that there are some actual journalist's out there, he gets some brilliant guests on there also (probably cause they know they won't get hysterical questioning)


yep, i enjoy his interview style. reasoned and thoughtful.

its an hour long cut down version of what i presume is a 3 hour show (mostly all of the talkback is taken out)

i almost want to hear the talkback given how well gerard would interact with them.

may have to start streaming it live too

Just get the SEN or TuneIn app on your phone and listen to him each morning. Even though it's Melbourne based SEN Sh!ts all over any sports shows we have here
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:00 am

Interesting read, there were a couple of comments made at the Members Convention by Hinkley that correlate with this.

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https://amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/por ... ssion=true

Despite an aggressive post-season recruiting campaign in which they landed three players, Port Adelaide’s salary cap position in 2018 has the club positioned to snare another significant player.

The Power are understood to be among the top four clubs in the AFL for space in the salary cap, based on the AFL estimates for 2018 player payments – a remarkable outcome given they have acquired free agents Tom Rockliff and Steven Motlop and traded for Jack Watts, while adding a further three seasoned recruits.

The Power have created space in their total player payments in 2018 and, based on the amount available, would have the scope to bring in a player of Rockliff’s ilk.

Rockliff crossed from the Lions as a free agent on a four-year deal worth close to $2.8 million. Motlop, too, was handed a four-year deal by the Power on close to $550,000 a season – and controversially earned his old club, Geelong, an end-of-first-round draft pick as compensation.

Port also recruited Lindsay Thomas from North Melbourne, Gold Coast’s Trent McKenzie and ex-Demons captain Jack Trengove for a total haul of six seasoned players.

While Port paid plenty for Rockliff and Motlop – who was pursued by Adelaide and Gold Coast as well – the club traded Jarman Impey to Hawthorn, lost Jackson Trengove (Bulldogs) to free agency and traded Matthew Lobbe to Carlton and Aaron Young to Gold Coast. Veteran Angus Monfries retired.

Trengove, Lobbe, Monfries and Impey were on relatively significant contracts. The cumulative effect was that the Power’s incoming recruits were more or less covered by the players leaving.

Port’s salary cap room was assisted by the fact Melbourne are paying a portion of Watts’ contract, and while the Power are doing the same with Lobbe’s two-year contract worth close to $1 million, they have still saved significantly by offloading him to the Blues.

Another saving that has helped Port, to a lesser degree, was Essendon paying a portion of Paddy Ryder and Monfries’ contracts during their WADA suspensions in 2016.

Port are entering the season with a list that is, on average, younger than in 2017 – a surprising outcome in view of their aggression at the trading table. They drafted five teenagers, in addition to those mature-age recruits.

Port took umbrage at widespread suggestions from other clubs that they had a player payments squeeze as a result of huge payments to a number of players, including Hamish Hartlett, Robbie Gray, Travis Boak, Chad Wingard, Ryder and Charlie Dixon.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby heater31 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:09 am

Means those players already at Port are being paid peanuts [emoji44]
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:11 am

Wines must be rubbing his hands together with all this salary cap room
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:16 am

heater31 wrote:Means those players already at Port are being paid peanuts [emoji44]


Good management with front/back ended contracts and/or potentially the benefit of long term deals where they can up/down monies from year to year to keep some wiggle room into the future.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:21 am

MW wrote:Wines must be rubbing his hands together with all this salary cap room


So are we. :D
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Brodlach » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:11 am

bennymacca wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:I have been downloading the whateley podcast, been good


yep outstanding, I reminder that there are some actual journalist's out there, he gets some brilliant guests on there also (probably cause they know they won't get hysterical questioning)


yep, i enjoy his interview style. reasoned and thoughtful.

its an hour long cut down version of what i presume is a 3 hour show (mostly all of the talkback is taken out)

i almost want to hear the talkback given how well gerard would interact with them.

may have to start streaming it live too


I’ve listened to 31 minutes this morning and I suggest I’ve had 24 minutes of ads. The 7 minutes had been good listening though. Podcast sounds like the way tibgo
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby hawks21 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:27 am

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:Wines must be rubbing his hands together with all this salary cap room


So are we. :D

Hartlett and Boak would be coming to the end of no doubt front ended deals, Lobbe off the books and Watts has half his wage paid by Melbourne. They also had a million dollars freed up with Monfries and Ryder not being paid due to the drug saga for a season, hence the reason they could afford to bring in Rockliff, Watts, Motlop etc on decent coin last year. They would have had a squeeze back in 2015/16 but now i think they would be in a similar position to most top end clubs.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Brodlach » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:28 am

I reckon Port would be paying some of Lobbe’s contract
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Dutchy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:34 am

MW wrote:Wines must be rubbing his hands together with all this salary cap room


Or maybe they dont want to overpay Wines to keep the space which will cause issues...I bet Wines's manager printed off the article for their next meeting.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:40 am

Brodlach wrote:I reckon Port would be paying some of Lobbe’s contract


We are, yes, but we're not paying him $450k to play SANFL anymore.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:42 am

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Booney wrote:
MW wrote:Wines must be rubbing his hands together with all this salary cap room


So are we. :D

Hartlett and Boak would be coming to the end of no doubt front ended deals, Lobbe off the books and Watts has half his wage paid by Melbourne. They also had a million dollars freed up with Monfries and Ryder not being paid due to the drug saga for a season, hence the reason they could afford to bring in Rockliff, Watts, Motlop etc on decent coin last year. They would have had a squeeze back in 2015/16 but now i think they would be in a similar position to most top end clubs.


Harlett's deal coming to an end? Not yet mate, he's locked away until 2021.

As the article notes, Impey, Trengove and Lobbe were all on decent coin, Young only had a one year deal for 2017 after a solid 2016 so his would have been above average.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:06 am

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hawks21 wrote:Hartlett and Boak would be coming to the end of no doubt front ended deals, Lobbe off the books and Watts has half his wage paid by Melbourne. They also had a million dollars freed up with Monfries and Ryder not being paid due to the drug saga for a season, hence the reason they could afford to bring in Rockliff, Watts, Motlop etc on decent coin last year. They would have had a squeeze back in 2015/16 but now i think they would be in a similar position to most top end clubs.


Harlett's deal coming to an end? Not yet mate, he's locked away until 2021.

As the article notes, Impey, Trengove and Lobbe were all on decent coin, Young only had a one year deal for 2017 after a solid 2016 so his would have been above average.

Yeah, Hartlett signed for 26 years and then immediately became a dud.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Jim05 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:37 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
hawks21 wrote:Hartlett and Boak would be coming to the end of no doubt front ended deals, Lobbe off the books and Watts has half his wage paid by Melbourne. They also had a million dollars freed up with Monfries and Ryder not being paid due to the drug saga for a season, hence the reason they could afford to bring in Rockliff, Watts, Motlop etc on decent coin last year. They would have had a squeeze back in 2015/16 but now i think they would be in a similar position to most top end clubs.


Harlett's deal coming to an end? Not yet mate, he's locked away until 2021.

As the article notes, Impey, Trengove and Lobbe were all on decent coin, Young only had a one year deal for 2017 after a solid 2016 so his would have been above average.

Yeah, Hartlett signed for 26 years and then immediately became a dud.

And despite the club shopping him around they have now added him to the leadership group
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:25 pm

Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:I reckon Port would be paying some of Lobbe’s contract


We are, yes, but we're not paying him $450k to play SANFL anymore.


Instead you’re paying him $200k to play for another AFL club.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:26 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
hawks21 wrote:Hartlett and Boak would be coming to the end of no doubt front ended deals, Lobbe off the books and Watts has half his wage paid by Melbourne. They also had a million dollars freed up with Monfries and Ryder not being paid due to the drug saga for a season, hence the reason they could afford to bring in Rockliff, Watts, Motlop etc on decent coin last year. They would have had a squeeze back in 2015/16 but now i think they would be in a similar position to most top end clubs.


Harlett's deal coming to an end? Not yet mate, he's locked away until 2021.

As the article notes, Impey, Trengove and Lobbe were all on decent coin, Young only had a one year deal for 2017 after a solid 2016 so his would have been above average.

Yeah, Hartlett signed for 26 years and then immediately became a dud.


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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:36 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
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Brodlach wrote:I reckon Port would be paying some of Lobbe’s contract


We are, yes, but we're not paying him $450k to play SANFL anymore.


Instead you’re paying him $200k to play for another AFL club.


You think Carlton is an AFL club....cute. :lol:
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:39 pm

Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
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Brodlach wrote:I reckon Port would be paying some of Lobbe’s contract


We are, yes, but we're not paying him $450k to play SANFL anymore.


Instead you’re paying him $200k to play for another AFL club.


You think Carlton is an AFL club....cute. :lol:


The worse part about it is he will probably be our number 1 ruckman to allow Kruezer to spend more time forward.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby carey » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:52 pm

#closetportfan
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