Crows Vs Dogs

[Felch]

Our tackling and pressure was ok early. But ffs, no wonder our forward line cant function properly ! Talk about over-cooking with the handball !

I thought Tippett was better tonight, starting to crash packs and looked like he was getting a bit of his mojo back.

Cook shows promise, and was impressed with Davis again.

[wycbloods]

Our tackling and pressure was ok early. But ffs, no wonder our forward line cant function properly ! Talk about over-cooking with the handball !

I thought Tippett was better tonight, starting to crash packs and looked like he was getting a bit of his mojo back.

Cook shows promise, and was impressed with Davis again.

He can do what some others can't, in getting the pill, but geez he butchers the ball something chronic.

Davis really looks the goods, has time and is composed.

I like Schmidt he seems to be doing enough good things and showing plenty of promise.

Edwards, Thompson and Vince are just coughing the ball up way too often and easily.

Tippett showed some signs he is on the improve but it can't be easy with the ball he was getting from the midfield.

The crows need to realise it is FOOTBALL not HANDBALL they are playing. Kick the bloody thing every now and again.

[CK]

Quite a painful game to watch, to be brutally honest. I long for the day when AFL teams again have a majority of games when kicks outnumber handball, because for a number of teams that adopt the opposite, it doesn't take them too far. Gives the opposition more opportunity to apply pressure upon the ball carrier and create the turnover. The Bulldogs must have been thrilled to see such a high handball count from the first bounce.

[MW]

At times Vince actually looked scared out there...

[Columbo]

What is happening....

-165 kicks, 226 handballs...and probably a good third of those were ineffective.
-They are indecisive,
-They look slow / tired / unfit or injured, - (At one stage tonight i saw Griffen run away from Jared Petrenko...and having seen everyone of his games at the Eagles I cant say ive seen that happen before...he looked as though he was running up and down on the spot!...add to that Knights and Porps dont look right and there goes 70-100 goals based on last year)
-Disposal by hand and foot is ordinary (think i may have already said that)
-Ive said this in another thread but surely with all these niggly injuries that are happening do the training methods need to be questioned??

On a positive note...good to see Tippet start to have a bit of a presence again, Cook gets the ball ok but needs to work on disposal (better than not being able to get it though), Dangerfield is a star, Davis looks right at home and Henderson showed some signs.

[Felch]

What is happening....

-165 kicks, 226 handballs...and probably a good third of those were ineffective.
-They are indecisive,
-They look slow / tired / unfit or injured, - (At one stage tonight i saw Griffen run away from Jared Petrenko...and having seen everyone of his games at the Eagles I cant say ive seen that happen before...he looked as though he was running up and down on the spot!...add to that Knights and Porps dont look right and there goes 70-100 goals based on last year)
-Disposal by hand and foot is ordinary (think i may have already said that)
-Ive said this in another thread but surely with all these niggly injuries that are happening do the training methods need to be questioned??

On a positive note...good to see Tippet start to have a bit of a presence again, Cook gets the ball ok but needs to work on disposal (better than not being able to get it though), Dangerfield is a star, Davis looks right at home and Henderson showed some signs.

Absolutely agree, but he may be a dead star if he continues to play the way he does. FFS, he almost killed himself on the goalpost tonight !

[NFC]

Our tackling and pressure was ok early. But ffs, no wonder our forward line cant function properly ! Talk about over-cooking with the handball !

I thought Tippett was better tonight, starting to crash packs and looked like he was getting a bit of his mojo back.

Cook shows promise, and was impressed with Davis again.

He can do what some others can't, in getting the pill, but geez he butchers the ball something chronic.

Did he really? I mean after the first few minites, and his OOF, I honestly don't think he wasted a disposal.

Cook showed some SERIOUS class tonight, the stuff he does in traffic, the way he gets hands free, his tackling, he's gonna be a ripper.

Davis looks like a gun already, Schmidt after a wobbly start was very good.

[Felch]

Our tackling and pressure was ok early. But ffs, no wonder our forward line cant function properly ! Talk about over-cooking with the handball !

I thought Tippett was better tonight, starting to crash packs and looked like he was getting a bit of his mojo back.

Cook shows promise, and was impressed with Davis again.

He can do what some others can't, in getting the pill, but geez he butchers the ball something chronic.

Did he really? I mean after the first few minites, and his OOF, I honestly don't think he wasted a disposal.

Cook showed some SERIOUS class tonight, the stuff he does in traffic, the way he gets hands free, his tackling, he's gonna be a ripper.

Davis looks like a gun already, Schmidt after a wobbly start was very good.

I reckon you are right with Cook, his disposal definately wasnt the worse out there tonight. Add some strength and size to his frame, and he will be a quality, inside midfielder.

Schmidt was ok, the jury is still out on him for me though as to whether he will be a consistent AFL footballer.

[Columbo]

Absolutely agree, but he may be a dead star if he continues to play the way he does. FFS, he almost killed himself on the goalpost tonight !

I think they might have to check out the post to make sure he didnt break it....his commitment is sensational....something that appears to be sadly missing from some of his mates at present

[Farmy]

What is wrong with Vince.

[Rik E Boy]

What is wrong with Vince.

I believe that the bad habits he has picked up this year are probably temporary.

1. He's not winning his own ball. Vince is hanging outside the packs waiting for the handball which is a sign of a poor work ethic and a lack of confidence. Obviously he's not an inside midfielder but he's just not getting his hands dirty at all. Occaisonaly even the outside mids have to go ferret the aggot out.

2. No second efforts. If first Vince doesn't get the pill there isn't much gut running coming from him at the moment.

3. Vince's handball to kick ratio has gone to the shithouse. The reason why he is doing this is because at the moment he is either turning the ball over or almost turning the ball over. Again this is down to a lack of confidence.

4. Craig has him doing the kick out duties when his confidence in his disposal is shot. Madness!

As a club champion it's obvious the guy can play but he has to rank as the most disappointing Crow this season in my book. Yes, Tippett has been poor but no forward is going to gun it with the delivery the Blackbirds are currently serving up. Have a go son you're part of the problem.

regards,

REB

[JK]

What is wrong with Vince.

I believe that the bad habits he has picked up this year are probably temporary.

1. He's not winning his own ball. Vince is hanging outside the packs waiting for the handball which is a sign of a poor work ethic and a lack of confidence. Obviously he's not an inside midfielder but he's just not getting his hands dirty at all. Occaisonaly even the outside mids have to go ferret the aggot out.

2. No second efforts. If first Vince doesn't get the pill there isn't much gut running coming from him at the moment.

3. Vince's handball to kick ratio has gone to the shithouse. The reason why he is doing this is because at the moment he is either turning the ball over or almost turning the ball over. Again this is down to a lack of confidence.

4. Craig has him doing the kick out duties when his confidence in his disposal is shot. Madness!

As a club champion it's obvious the guy can play but he has to rank as the most disappointing Crow this season in my book. Yes, Tippett has been poor but no forward is going to gun it with the delivery the Blackbirds are currently serving up. Have a go son you're part of the problem.

regards,

REB

Post breakout year blues I'd guess .. Not uncommon.

[Sojourner]

What l found interesting last night was that the Dogs seemed very adapt at breaking the Crows zone with some very long kicking whilst the Crows focused on a handball type chipping game. Many times the Dogs got the ball forward to Hall with momentum and run, after Crows players appeared from the tv broadcast to be left a distance behind.

[The Dark Knight]

0-5 with a showdown to come

Not looking good for the crows, but I reckon it will be a cracker of a game.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Cook showed some SERIOUS class tonight, the stuff he does in traffic, the way he gets hands free, his tackling, he's gonna be a ripper.

Davis looks like a gun already, Schmidt after a wobbly start was very good.

I have to laugh at how highly you rate players who have done SFA.

J Brown is a gun.

P Davis is just struggling to find his feet.

[whufc]

Cook showed some SERIOUS class tonight, the stuff he does in traffic, the way he gets hands free, his tackling, he's gonna be a ripper.

Davis looks like a gun already, Schmidt after a wobbly start was very good.

I have to laugh at how highly you rate players who have done SFA.

J Brown is a gun.

P Davis is just struggling to find his feet.

here here, finally someone who agrees.

Cook, MacKay, Walker, Maric, Davis are all average at best footballers in the AFL currently.

[Gingernuts]

0-5 with a showdown to come

Not looking good for the crows, but I reckon it will be a cracker of a game.

Showdown = perfect opportunity for Adelaide to drag themselves off the canvas and build towards a reasonably constructive season still. Sounds like there was some good signs last night (I haven't watched it yet, got it taped), so hopefully the players can take some confidence out of that.

[Gingernuts]

Cook showed some SERIOUS class tonight, the stuff he does in traffic, the way he gets hands free, his tackling, he's gonna be a ripper.

Davis looks like a gun already, Schmidt after a wobbly start was very good.

I have to laugh at how highly you rate players who have done SFA.

J Brown is a gun.

P Davis is just struggling to find his feet.

here here, finally someone who agrees.

Cook, MacKay, Walker, Maric, Davis are all average at best footballers in the AFL currently.

They all have obvious talent though, you can't argue that. A lot of Crows supporters expect them to be match winners already though and that's pretty unfair on the young blokes. Still a fair bit of development needed and just more games under the belt, plain and simple.

It's becoming fairly obvious (and some people did call it) that this year is turning into a bit of a 'gap' year for the squad - old blokes on the way out and young fellas not quite up to the standard needed to fill the gap.

[BestHumanEver]

Davis was easily one of our best last night.

[Psyber]

here here, finally someone who agrees.
Cook, MacKay, Walker, Maric, Davis are all average at best footballers in the AFL currently.

Are you allowed to say that in this forum.
Seriously, enthusiastic fans do tend to get carried away and create stardom status for the players they like rather early.
Those players are promising, but not established, and a lot will depend on their coaching and development from now on.
I believe Neil Craig did a good job early developing the fitness and skills of the players he had, but I think the style has reached its limit.
You can't retain the edge by pushing the limits of cardio-respiratory fitness further and further forever.
The other teams wake up and catch up, and there is a limit to how far anyone's body can go along that route.
Going on trying to do that may harm player development, and the administration at the AFC needs to think about that now..