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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby MatteeG » Tue May 01, 2012 12:24 pm

goraw wrote:thats what shits me though, punch for a punch, but the starter should get games where the retaliater shoudnt get any, only my opinion. its like some prick breaks in while ur asleep, but if u hit him,its ur fault :shock: :?


Retaliator should definitely get no more, provided they dont retaliate with 5 or 6 haymakers.

Funny thing is Selwood would surely have carry over points from his 4 week holiday last year? Even the most minor infringement would mean a game I would have thought.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby Johno6 » Tue May 01, 2012 12:45 pm

i dont see how what montagna did is worth 3 weeks also....
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby Booney » Tue May 01, 2012 12:48 pm

Johno6 wrote:The MRP really does boggle the mind.
i cannot believe walker and sellwood both got off


Agreed.

Sliding in knees first must have some consequenses. I thought Jetta was lucky the other week in the Rowan broken leg incident, sliding in "studs up" is a dog act on the soccer pitch and should be viewed the same way by those in charge of aussie rules comps. Although, the umpires penalise players for going in and putting their hands on the ball, so what are you supposed to do?

Selwood smacked a bloke in the face, plain and simple, and it isn't the first time he has been looked at in recent times and certainly wont be the last. Not sure how Raines cops some punishment but Selwood doesn't.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby HH3 » Tue May 01, 2012 12:59 pm



How the eff can Selwood (1 min, 46 secs) not get games for that??

Its a full swing. Almost identical to what connected with his glass jaw...what a joke. Apparently who you are is what matters, not what you did.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby LMA » Tue May 01, 2012 1:38 pm

Full swing =)) I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby HH3 » Tue May 01, 2012 1:46 pm

LMA wrote:Full swing =)) I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.


Id be happy for neither of them to be suspended. But if ones going to be rubbed out, so should the other. Its called favouritism and its a load of shit. The most unknown player in the AFL should get the same treatment by the tribunal as the greatest players.

I like Selwood, but I dont see any difference in the punches, besides Selwoods many concussions catching up with him.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby LMA » Tue May 01, 2012 1:53 pm

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LMA wrote:Full swing =)) I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.


Id be happy for neither of them to be suspended. But if ones going to be rubbed out, so should the other. Its called favouritism and its a load of shit. The most unknown player in the AFL should get the same treatment by the tribunal as the greatest players.

I like Selwood, but I dont see any difference in the punches, besides Selwoods many concussions catching up with him.


You might be right about the concussions, I believe medical reports from the clubs bears a bit of weight on the outcome, still reckon Raines strike was alot more forceful though.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby HH3 » Tue May 01, 2012 1:58 pm

LMA wrote:
HH3 wrote:
LMA wrote:Full swing =)) I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.


Id be happy for neither of them to be suspended. But if ones going to be rubbed out, so should the other. Its called favouritism and its a load of shit. The most unknown player in the AFL should get the same treatment by the tribunal as the greatest players.

I like Selwood, but I dont see any difference in the punches, besides Selwoods many concussions catching up with him.


You might be right about the concussions, I believe medical reports from the clubs bears a bit of weight on the outcome, still reckon Raines strike was alot more forceful though.


Yeah, if some little prick punched me in the face, Id get him back a bit better too. I just think it was placement more than force that did the damage.
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Re: Re: Match Review Panel

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue May 01, 2012 2:31 pm

LMA wrote:Full swing =)) I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.

You say people are soft, but whinge about some legal tactics that teams employ to win footy games.

Selwood isn't as hard as nails. You are getting that confused with courageous.

Raines and Baker have been entertaining in recent years.
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Re: Re: Match Review Panel

Postby LMA » Tue May 01, 2012 3:24 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
LMA wrote:Full swing =)) I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.

You say people are soft, but whinge about some legal tactics that teams employ to win footy games.

Selwood isn't as hard as nails. You are getting that confused with courageous.

Raines and Baker have been entertaining in recent years.


How often has a tag or legal tactics as you put it won a game of footy, very rarely I would think otherwise we wouldn't of had midfielders winning the brownlow for the last 10-15 years and if it wins footy games why don't they draft taggers. Not one person in the AFL would have been drafted because they are a good tagger.
In terms of football, courageos = hard IMO and as for Raines and Baker I must of missed that game
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Re: Re: Match Review Panel

Postby HH3 » Tue May 01, 2012 3:39 pm

LMA wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
LMA wrote:Full swing =)) I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.

You say people are soft, but whinge about some legal tactics that teams employ to win footy games.

Selwood isn't as hard as nails. You are getting that confused with courageous.

Raines and Baker have been entertaining in recent years.


How often has a tag or legal tactics as you put it won a game of footy, very rarely I would think otherwise we wouldn't of had midfielders winning the brownlow for the last 10-15 years and if it wins footy games why don't they draft taggers. Not one person in the AFL would have been drafted because they are a good tagger.
In terms of football, courageos = hard IMO and as for Raines and Baker I must of missed that game


Ever heard the term "the best offence is a good defence"?

Im sure there would be cases where an influential player has been shut down by a tagger, and its had a big impact on who won the game. If it had no effect on the game, and there was no incentive for a team to employ tagging tactics, why does it happen?

Im sure most teams have someone they regard as a tagger, that does a job for team when it needs to be done.

Off the top of my head,

North Melbourne - Brady Rawlings
Port - Kane Cornes
Richmond - Jake King
Fremantle - Hayden Ballentyne, Ryan Crowley
Hawthorn - Brad Sewell

Even the mighty Geelong had Ling that did it when needed.

Saying stopping your opponent getting the ball doesnt help win a game of footy makes the whole "man-up" tactic redundant. Who cares about accountabilty, it doesnt win a game of footy. Lets just try and get a kick, worked in under 9s.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby Banker » Tue May 01, 2012 3:40 pm

The opposition medical report seems to be the main infulence on the MRP decision :?
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby saintal » Tue May 01, 2012 4:11 pm

Maybe I'm biased..but why did Montagna's deserve weeks? :oops: Looked like a bit of push and shove, followed by a minor whack across the face.
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Re: Re: Re: Match Review Panel

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue May 01, 2012 4:13 pm

HH3 wrote:
LMA wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
LMA wrote:Full swing =)) I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.

You say people are soft, but whinge about some legal tactics that teams employ to win footy games.

Selwood isn't as hard as nails. You are getting that confused with courageous.

Raines and Baker have been entertaining in recent years.


How often has a tag or legal tactics as you put it won a game of footy, very rarely I would think otherwise we wouldn't of had midfielders winning the brownlow for the last 10-15 years and if it wins footy games why don't they draft taggers. Not one person in the AFL would have been drafted because they are a good tagger.
In terms of football, courageos = hard IMO and as for Raines and Baker I must of missed that game


Ever heard the term "the best offence is a good defence"?

Im sure there would be cases where an influential player has been shut down by a tagger, and its had a big impact on who won the game. If it had no effect on the game, and there was no incentive for a team to employ tagging tactics, why does it happen?

Im sure most teams have someone they regard as a tagger, that does a job for team when it needs to be done.

Off the top of my head,

North Melbourne - Brady Rawlings
Port - Kane Cornes
Richmond - Jake King
Fremantle - Hayden Ballentyne, Ryan Crowley
Hawthorn - Brad Sewell

Even the mighty Geelong had Ling that did it when needed.

Saying stopping your opponent getting the ball doesnt help win a game of footy makes the whole "man-up" tactic redundant. Who cares about accountabilty, it doesnt win a game of footy. Lets just try and get a kick, worked in under 9s.

Good post.

A good tagger is worth their weight in gold. Especially the ones who can stop an opponent and get the ball themselves. Ling and Kirk were prime examples. Employing a hard tag on players like Judd etc works because they don't have a defensive bone in their body.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby Banker » Tue May 01, 2012 4:18 pm

MRP :oops:

From twitter:
Leigh Montagna Tribunal Charge withdrawn this afternoon by AFL legal counsel Jeff Gleeson. Montagna now clear to play v Hawthorn in rd six.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby Bum Crack » Tue May 01, 2012 4:34 pm

Raines was lucky not to get 6 weeks for the Selwood hit. Can't believe Selwood's hit was even looked at.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby Booney » Tue May 01, 2012 4:50 pm

Bum Crack wrote:Raines was lucky not to get 6 weeks for the Selwood hit. Can't believe Selwood's hit was even looked at.


:shock:

Raines should have got 6, but Selwood not even looked at? Selwood threw the first one! Went down like a sack of shit though, did Selwood.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby HH3 » Tue May 01, 2012 4:51 pm

Booney wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:Raines was lucky not to get 6 weeks for the Selwood hit. Can't believe Selwood's hit was even looked at.


:shock:

Raines should have got 6, but Selwood not even looked at? Selwood threw the first one! Went down like a sack of shit though, did Selwood.


I didnt watch the game, but did Selwood play the rest of the game?
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby Bum Crack » Tue May 01, 2012 4:52 pm

HH3 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:Raines was lucky not to get 6 weeks for the Selwood hit. Can't believe Selwood's hit was even looked at.


:shock:

Raines should have got 6, but Selwood not even looked at? Selwood threw the first one! Went down like a sack of shit though, did Selwood.


I didnt watch the game, but did Selwood play the rest of the game?

He did, but only because he's the toughest player in the comp.
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Re: Match Review Panel

Postby Booney » Tue May 01, 2012 4:54 pm

HH3 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:Raines was lucky not to get 6 weeks for the Selwood hit. Can't believe Selwood's hit was even looked at.


:shock:

Raines should have got 6, but Selwood not even looked at? Selwood threw the first one! Went down like a sack of shit though, did Selwood.


I didnt watch the game, but did Selwood play the rest of the game?


Sure did,but, it makes you wonder how much weight you can place on the medical report then, doesn't it?
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