Essendon 2013

[The Sleeping Giant]

Tim Watson still work for 7?

[The Sleeping Giant]

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[kickinit]

Surely common sense would say having a bloke admit to taking a banned substance is enough to warrant the AFL suspending the bloke until the ASADA findings are released.

Comical that a bloke like Tippett can be suspended for 12 weeks while a player who openly admits he took a banned substance is running around.

What reason will Watson get off this, as you said it's your body your system your responsible for what goes in it regardless

Also I think admitting to using a banned substance on a high rating tv show is probably enough to trot out the old 'bringing the game into disrepute' line

Is there anything the AFL does that you just don't follow and agree with

I don't agree with it and I think it's a absolute disgrace it's taken this long. But at the same time we are only hearing what the media have been saying. I know Jim05 said on here but i'm pretty sure the media was also saying watson played no part in the supplement program. We have only heard about watson this week, the question also has to be asked, is this the first ASADA have heard about it? Has ASADA just discovered something that has turned the investigation upside down, and it's the reason watson has come out? Watson could also be a major piece of the puzzle, you ban him straight away and he could accept his ban and stop talking.

You have to look at it from the AFL prospective they aren't the one doing the investigation, they basically have to sit back and wait on ASADA. For ASADA not to put a immediate ban on him makes me think either it wasn't banned at the time, or there is something big about to rock the AFL. They could go the disrepute route but what happens when he is cleard in a couple of weeks or month. Look at how quick Armstrong lost everything, you don't think watson would be seeing the AFL in court.

[kickinit]

We will have to wait for the ASADA report but im fairly confident we will escape with minimal damage.
The ACC report is still claiming that AOD was not on the WADA banned list last year.
Still reckon the AFL will give us the biggest whack not ASADA

The ACC only claimed it wasn't on WADA s2 banned list, which is correct. But it was on WADA s0 banned list, which means watson has taken a banned substance. The difference between s0 and s2 is,

s2 is any substance that has been deemed not to be taken by any athlete e.g. steroids
s0 is a substance that has no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use, which is basically a untested substance. And with this any substance that falls under s0 is banned at all times.

[whufc]

I think tonights commentators have forgotten Jobe Watson admitted to taking a band substance.

[smac]

I think tonights commentators have forgotten Jobe Watson admitted to taking a band substance.

Beatles?

[cripple]

I think tonights commentators have forgotten Jobe Watson admitted to taking a band substance.

Luke Darcy has been the worst. Biggest fan boy of all time, just wants everyone to be his friend.

[helicopterking]

I think tonights commentators have forgotten Jobe Watson admitted to taking a band substance.

Luke Darcy has been the worst. Biggest fan boy of all time, just wants everyone to be his friend.

He is trying so hard, really doesnt want to commentate Netball anymore

[helicopterking]

Hibberd can seriously play

[tigerpie]

Yeah commentators were sickening at times last night. The crowd were very vocal yes, but thats footy.
Lots of players have copped just as much from the crowd, for belting someone, going to a new club,....or just being Dermott Brereton @ footy park.

Alastair Lynch's steroid taking is not a valid argument in this case.
He took prescribed drugs to aid recovery from a very serious condition, no different from someone trying to piss off cancer.
I may be wrong but he had to stop taking prescribed medication once he got back to actually playing again.

Again this is about prescribed medication.
Essendons case is about a drug not passed for human consumption.

Good on ya Jobe for being honest but the shits hit the fan now!

[RustyCage]

We will have to wait for the ASADA report but im fairly confident we will escape with minimal damage.
The ACC report is still claiming that AOD was not on the WADA banned list last year.
Still reckon the AFL will give us the biggest whack not ASADA

WADA have said that it was 100% definitely banned

[Q.]

You would expect that if those VFL players got banned for a couple of years for buying a pre-workout with DMAA (on WADA banned list but not illegal at the time), then the penalty would be similar for the Essendon players.

[on the rails]

I don't agree with it and I think it's a absolute disgrace it's taken this long. But at the same time we are only hearing what the media have been saying. I know Jim05 said on here but i'm pretty sure the media was also saying watson played no part in the supplement program. We have only heard about watson this week, the question also has to be asked, is this the first ASADA have heard about it? Has ASADA just discovered something that has turned the investigation upside down, and it's the reason watson has come out? Watson could also be a major piece of the puzzle, you ban him straight away and he could accept his ban and stop talking.

You have to look at it from the AFL prospective they aren't the one doing the investigation, they basically have to sit back and wait on ASADA. For ASADA not to put a immediate ban on him makes me think either it wasn't banned at the time, or there is something big about to rock the AFL. They could go the disrepute route but what happens when he is cleard in a couple of weeks or month. Look at how quick Armstrong lost everything, you don't think watson would be seeing the AFL in court.

Trust you to come up with absolute rubbish! The AFL silence on this is digraceful. They came out and commented on the Milne issue and that is under investigation by a regulated law enforcement body as is ASADA - hard to see the difference in terms of media silence!

[Booney]

Watson admitted guilt. The only disputed fact ( I believe ) is if the drug is banned. If it is indeed on the banned list, he must be suspended immediately. I see that the AFL has no option but to do so.

[cennals05]

If this had been the Bulldogs or North Melbourne would the silence be so deafening? Essendon bring in the crowds and make money for the AFL. The last thing the AFL want is to have to ban them.

[Barto]

If this had been the Bulldogs or North Melbourne would the silence be so deafening? Essendon bring in the crowds and make money for the AFL. The last thing the AFL want is to have to ban them.

Spot on. Any other team, any other sport where a player admits to taking a banned substance would see them on the sidelines straight away. The AFL is a joke.

[the wonder elephant]

If this had been the Bulldogs or North Melbourne would the silence be so deafening? Essendon bring in the crowds and make money for the AFL. The last thing the AFL want is to have to ban them.

Spot on. Any other team, any other sport where a player admits to taking a banned substance would see them on the sidelines straight away. The AFL is a joke.

if this was the crows , west coast , freo , port , Brisbane , gold coast etc . they would already be banned stood down . what are the afl gonna do come august when the investigation will apparently be complete and the dons are gonna be top 4 ??? will Jobe lose his brownlow .... I don't think so

[Jim05]

If this had been the Bulldogs or North Melbourne would the silence be so deafening? Essendon bring in the crowds and make money for the AFL. The last thing the AFL want is to have to ban them.

Spot on. Any other team, any other sport where a player admits to taking a banned substance would see them on the sidelines straight away. The AFL is a joke.

if this was the crows , west coast , freo , port , Brisbane , gold coast etc . they would already be banned stood down . what are the afl gonna do come august when the investigation will apparently be complete and the dons are gonna be top 4 ??? will Jobe lose his brownlow .... I don't think so

Nathan Bock has admitted to using the same drug as Jobe several months ago.
Maybe the AFL have swept that under the carpet aswell

[the wonder elephant]

If this had been the Bulldogs or North Melbourne would the silence be so deafening? Essendon bring in the crowds and make money for the AFL. The last thing the AFL want is to have to ban them.

Spot on. Any other team, any other sport where a player admits to taking a banned substance would see them on the sidelines straight away. The AFL is a joke.

if this was the crows , west coast , freo , port , Brisbane , gold coast etc . they would already be banned stood down . what are the afl gonna do come august when the investigation will apparently be complete and the dons are gonna be top 4 ??? will Jobe lose his brownlow .... I don't think so

Nathan Bock has admitted to using the same drug as Jobe several months ago.
Maybe the AFL have swept that under the carpet aswell
Sorry I missed that one the point I was trying to make was that if it wasn't one of the big 4 in Melbourne the book would have been well an truly thrown by now ... Main point being the AFL needs the revenue what happens when the bombers finish top 4 and the AFL has to ban them ... The last thing the AFL will want is a tainted premier ..... ohh hang on theve already got a tainted brownlow why not a premier as well

[daysofourlives]

Essendon will be stripped of all points for this when the decision is handed down convieniently some time in August. At a guess i reckon after R23 thus minimising the loss of $$$ to the club and the AFL.
Its not that important that Essendon play finals from a $$$ perspective as many people both attend and watch finals no matter who is playing.

As to the individuals i dont think there is any choice, the precedent was set with the VFL players.

I think i am right in saying if anyone gets 2 years the lose all awards they may have gained plus any endorsments, not sure about salary though.