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Lightning McQueen wrote:

Dutchy wrote:Time for the media to leave him alone and let this one play out in court, sitting outside his house for the next 3 weeks ain't good for anyone involved.

That's not gonna happen, James Hird was almost suicidal and they thrived on it.

There seriously needs to be some media self regulation out there, I guess if there is a death that helps with their news cycle

Dutchy wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Dutchy wrote:Time for the media to leave him alone and let this one play out in court, sitting outside his house for the next 3 weeks ain't good for anyone involved.

That's not gonna happen, James Hird was almost suicidal and they thrived on it.

There seriously needs to be some media self regulation out there, I guess if there is a death that helps with their news cycle

I said the same thing to the Mrs last night. 60 minutes, just ran a story on bullying young Dolly alerting everyone to the dangers of bullying, then next thing they are camped out on Bombers footsteps doing the harassing and bullying themselves. Disgraceful really.

Jim05 wrote:Anyway we won’t ever agree on this topic, I think we are too lenient and you think we are too harsh and that’s the way it is

Whilst true, when you're talking about people's lives, this is a cop out.

We're not discussing whether strawberry icecream is better than chocolate icecream here. Your sort of thinking, should it be enacted into policy, puts peoples lives at risk. Including many that I care about. It can never ever gain traction here.

Thankfully you're in the vast minority.

morell wrote:I find that if people rely on their own echo chamber and anecdotal evidence, it can be dramatically wrong.

Dude you might be the worst person on this forum for this, despite what you say otherwise

morell wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Anyway we won’t ever agree on this topic, I think we are too lenient and you think we are too harsh and that’s the way it is

Whilst true, when you're talking about people's lives, this is a cop out.

We're not discussing whether strawberry icecream is better than chocolate icecream here. Your sort of thinking, should it be enacted into policy, puts peoples lives at risk. Including many that I care about. It can never ever gain traction here.

Thankfully you're in the vast minority.

You care about junkies and drug dealers?
I’ve made no secret I’m a massive advocate of corporal punishment and believe all crimes such as murder, paedophilia or drug trafficking should be punished by death

bennymacca wrote:

morell wrote:I find that if people rely on their own echo chamber and anecdotal evidence, it can be dramatically wrong.

Dude you might be the worst person on this forum for this, despite what you say otherwise

I was about to say the same thing. I just skip past his comments now.

bennymacca wrote:

morell wrote:I find that if people rely on their own echo chamber and anecdotal evidence, it can be dramatically wrong.

Dude you might be the worst person on this forum for this, despite what you say otherwise

We are all victims of it. And it's getting harder and harder to avoid.

But. I make a concerted effort to reinforce my opinions with non anecdotal non biased evidence. And at risk of sounding like a knob, take pride in it.

If there is evidence out there that the war on drugs has been successful and/legalising it hadn't been - post it. If I post some you feel needs corroboration, tell me.

Thus far it's been "I know someone over there and they told me" or "I felt safer".

The current method of policing drugs isn't working, simple as that.

What's going to be the best way going forward? Who knows, but change needs to take place.

morell wrote:

bennymacca wrote:

morell wrote:I find that if people rely on their own echo chamber and anecdotal evidence, it can be dramatically wrong.

Dude you might be the worst person on this forum for this, despite what you say otherwise

We are all victims of it. And it's getting harder and harder to avoid.

But. I make a concerted effort to reinforce my opinions with non anecdotal non biased evidence. And at risk of sounding like a knob, take pride in it.

If there is evidence out there that the war on drugs has been successful and/legalising it hadn't been - post it. If I post some you feel needs corroboration, tell me.

Thus far it's been "I know someone over there and they told me" or "I felt safer".

Risk assessment not a strong point then?

Jim05 wrote:

morell wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Anyway we won’t ever agree on this topic, I think we are too lenient and you think we are too harsh and that’s the way it is

Whilst true, when you're talking about people's lives, this is a cop out.

We're not discussing whether strawberry icecream is better than chocolate icecream here. Your sort of thinking, should it be enacted into policy, puts peoples lives at risk. Including many that I care about. It can never ever gain traction here.

Thankfully you're in the vast minority.

You care about junkies and drug dealers?
I’ve made no secret I’m a massive advocate of corporal punishment and believe all crimes such as murder, paedophilia or drug trafficking should be punished by death

Absolutely I do. Under a regime like Duarte I would have likely lost two of my siblings to state sanctioned murder.

As I said, we have very different moral compasses.

Also as I said, thankful you're in the vast minority.

Dutchy wrote:
There seriously needs to be some media self regulation out there, I guess if there is a death that helps with their news cycle

Yep, vultures.

Booney wrote:The current method of policing drugs isn't working, simple as that.

What's going to be the best way going forward? Who knows, but change needs to take place.

Correct!

Honestly it's like Bart and the cupcake.

The war on drugs has been one of the world's most monumental **** ups and is was and always will be an abject failure.

Mythical Creature wrote:
I said the same thing to the Mrs last night. 60 minutes, just ran a story on bullying young Dolly alerting everyone to the dangers of bullying, then next thing they are camped out on Bombers footsteps doing the harassing and bullying themselves. Disgraceful really.

I don't watch news or documentary's but the missus made me watch that as it hit close to home and having a teenage daughter she felt that I should get in touch with what occurs nowadays, it was very compelling viewing.

And to refute bennymacca further.

I used to be staunchly anti legalising drugs. Vehemently so.

Changed my mind after researching it extensively.

Jim05 wrote:In every war there is collateral damage. Manila is a far safer place to visit now than it once was thanks to him. I feel far safer walking the streets of Manila at 3am than I do Adelaide and if that means a few drug users or traffickers have to bite the bullet so to speak I’m comfortable with that.

I don't think genocide of urban poor is the answer. Let's not model ourselves on a maniac running a banana republic.

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Mythical Creature wrote:
I said the same thing to the Mrs last night. 60 minutes, just ran a story on bullying young Dolly alerting everyone to the dangers of bullying, then next thing they are camped out on Bombers footsteps doing the harassing and bullying themselves. Disgraceful really.

I don't watch news or documentary's but the missus made me watch that as it hit close to home and having a teenage daughter she felt that I should get in touch with what occurs nowadays, it was very compelling viewing.

Exactly, and I have it all in front of me with a 6 and nearly 4 year old.
The media are being definite bullies towards Thompson, hounding him with questions on his doorstep. I mean the matter is before the courts, as if he is or can say anything anyway. Report the story that he has been arrested, show some old footage of him coaching/playing whatever, then move on to next story.

There is a lot of big words in this thread...I'm getting edumacated

morell wrote:And to refute bennymacca further.

I used to be staunchly anti legalising drugs. Vehemently so.

Changed my mind after researching it extensively.

you realise that your method of taking people to task is doing the exact opposite of your intention thought right?

I am on your side somewhat - i dont agree with corporal punishment and i think decriminalising possession could be a good thing. same with legalising marijuana and some of the other lower level drugs. but i also have zero sympathy for trafficking.

bennymacca wrote:

morell wrote:And to refute bennymacca further.

I used to be staunchly anti legalising drugs. Vehemently so.

Changed my mind after researching it extensively.

you realise that your method of taking people to task is doing the exact opposite of your intention thought right?

I am on your side somewhat - i dont agree with corporal punishment and i think decriminalising possession could be a good thing. same with legalising marijuana and some of the other lower level drugs. but i also have zero sympathy for trafficking.

No, I do not realise that. Someone spoke to me when I was in my 20s in a very similar way that I am posting on this topic and it altered my world view. I am literally posting the opposite to what the group think would be. That might be seen as polarising, I see it as educational.

Good stuff. I knew you were a clever man.

your way of "educating" is extremely grating and makes people turn off straight away - even if your argument has merit