Essendon 2013

[Jim05]

At that stage of his career he broke down more often than Waite.
Since the correct diagnosis was made and he has had surgery he has hardly missed a game.
He has been through a lot and id live him to stay but just cant see many opportunities for him

[Turbo]

At that stage of his career he broke down more often than Waite.
Since the correct diagnosis was made and he has had surgery he has hardly missed a game.
He has been through a lot and id live him to stay but just cant see many opportunities for him

Yeah obviously a talent. Taken pick 2 or 3 in the draft?

[GWW]

This bloke from Fox Sports thinks he's heard AFL's first punishment "offer" to Essendon:

https://twitter.com/ChrisStubbsFOX

"Chris Stubbs ‏@ChrisStubbsFOX

Heard the AFL's '1st offer' for Ess is no finals, Jobe loses Brownlow and no 1st rd draft pick for 3 years! Players escape. Imagine that!"

[Sky Pilot]

This bloke from Fox Sports thinks he's heard AFL's first punishment "offer" to Essendon:

https://twitter.com/ChrisStubbsFOX

"Chris Stubbs ‏@ChrisStubbsFOX

Heard the AFL's '1st offer' for Ess is no finals, Jobe loses Brownlow and no 1st rd draft pick for 3 years! Players escape. Imagine that!"

Won't happen

[dedja]

do the crime ...

[Jim05]

This bloke from Fox Sports thinks he's heard AFL's first punishment "offer" to Essendon:

https://twitter.com/ChrisStubbsFOX

"Chris Stubbs ‏@ChrisStubbsFOX

Heard the AFL's '1st offer' for Ess is no finals, Jobe loses Brownlow and no 1st rd draft pick for 3 years! Players escape. Imagine that!"

Sounds like crap to me
ASADA havnt finalised their report yet, the AFL wont act until they see the outcome of the report

[Turbo]

Maybe this is what he's on about. Something's about to hit the fan?




Leaked ASADA file reveals favourable AFL treatment
Rebecca Wilson, James Hooper and Josh Massoud
July 22, 2013 12:00AM

EXCLUSIVE: THE AFL and Federal Government cut a private deal in February for ASADA to "explore all avenues" to spare Essendon players from suspension over the systemic use of supplements last season.
The deal is outlined in a document obtained exclusively by The Daily Telegraph.
Its existence has outraged NRL officials, who suspected the AFL had received favourable treatment from ASADA and the Federal Sports Ministry shortly after the drugs-in-sport investigation was announced on February 7.
When NRL chief executive Dave Smith initially learned of the deal he was fuming, raising it with ex-Prime Minister Julia Gillard in March.


The revelation of the private deal, which excluded the NRL, comes less than a week after sections of the Melbourne media began a campaign blaming ASADA for providing incorrect advice in relation to Essendon's use of AOD-9604, suggesting the anti-doping watchdog informed the club it was not prohibited.
Less than two weeks after the Australian Crime Commission released its report into drugs in sport and organised crime on February 7, the AFL deal was drafted to give Essendon players "an immediate level of comfort".

AFL boss Andrew Demetriou.
Dated February 20, the document informs the players, some of whom are alleged to have had multiple injections of AOD-9604, about their chances of receiving a "complete elimination of sanction" pursuant to the "no fault" or "negligence" defences.
Outlined in the nine separate dot points, the document begins: "ASADA met with you on 18 February 2013 to give you an overview of the (sic) ASADA's investigation process and of the possible outcomes of the investigation.
"Today (20 February 2013), we have come back to you to take you through an agreement we have reached with the Australian Football League about how the investigation is going to proceed from this point.
"The AFL understands that the investigation is likely to be protracted, complex and lengthy. To provide an immediate level of comfort for Essendon players it is proposed that the following assistance be given to the players."
The nine heads of agreement are then stated, assuring players they will be given every chance to escape the mandatory two-year ban for illicit drug use.
"ASADA will explain to the players that these are exceptional circumstances and the defence of no fault or negligence may be available," the letter reads.
"It will be explained to the players that under a no fault or negligence defence a player can receive a complete elimination of sanction.
"Where a player does come forward and provides a sworn statement regarding his involvement or the involvement of any other person, ASADA and the AFL will fully explore all avenues in an attempt to provide a no fault or negligence defence or substantial assistance.
"ASADA agrees that a significant contributing factor in the consideration of a no fault or negligence defence will be the extent to which players knew or suspected they had used prohibited substances at the instigation of sports science staff and took utmost caution in relation to the treatments they were receiving.
"Where ASADA forms the view that the defence of no fault or negligence is available in relation to a particular player, ASADA and the AFL agree that they will support the application of that defence to that player in proceedings before relevant sports tribunals."
The "no fault" defence is only granted in exceptionally rare circumstances, such as an athlete being treated with banned drugs while unconscious.
In contrast, Cronulla and the NRL were only offered the lesser "no significant fault" defence that reduces bans to a minimum of six months.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said Sunday night: "The AFL met with ASADA and representatives of the Federal Government to establish a framework to enable the investigation to proceed and be completed with full cooperation of the Essendon Football Club and the Essendon players.
"All parties have complied with this framework to date. This framework did not provide for any guaranteed outcomes re recommendations or sanctions."
ASADA said Sunday it had never offered a zero sanction to any athlete or support person.
ASADA's investigation into Essendon is being finalised, with an outcome expected next month.
In contrast, the probe into Cronulla and 21 other current NRL players is expected to take much longer after all interviews were suspended in May.
The NRL will this week announce the restart of a series of interviews with Sharks players from next Monday.

[Jim05]

ASADA have released a statement today saying that they have never offered up any deals or bargains and that the WADA law is the only one that matters.
They have totally refuted the so called leaked document from the AFL

[Turbo]

ASADA have released a statement today saying that they have never offered up any deals or bargains and that the WADA law is the only one that matters.
They have totally refuted the so called leaked document from the AFL

If true some journalists putting their jobs on the line

[woodublieve12]

Anyone hear the camel spit last night the 'rush hour'???

Allegedly the bombers will lose all the points, hird and thompson sacked and Paul Roo's appointed. Could be all rubbish but interesting none the less.

[Booney]

David Evans gone. Given notice, effective immediately.

[Jim05]

David Evans gone. Given notice, effective immediately.

Yep sad day for the club.
Genuine club man who has given his all for the club over many years.
Not surprised at all, several people at the club are doing it tough ATM

[the joker]

Hird last man standing
Hird dead man standing

[daysofourlives]

David Evans gone. Given notice, effective immediately.

Yep sad day for the club.
Genuine club man who has given his all for the club over many years.
Not surprised at all, several people at the club are doing it tough ATM

Cry us a river Jim.
Self inflicted cheating scum.

Nothing would make me happier than to see them fall apart, well maybe beating the Cats in a grannie again

[Turbo]

Hird last man standing
Hird dead man standing

He's next. Gone very soon

[Jim05]

Hird last man standing
Hird dead man standing

He's next. Gone very soon

Only if ASADA or the AFL whack him
He wont stand down and he wont be sacked.
There is a strong rumour that Roos hasnt taken the Melbourne job yet because he is waiting on the outcome of this saga

[prowling panther]

From how I saw and read into the Hird interview, he wants it finished now to protect a few ar$e$ at E$$endon, including his own. Hird knew exactly what was going on, but he cannot soften the blow.

Even if Evans quits and walks away now, does he think he will be forgotten as it all comes out, me thinks his passport should be held by the AWFUL.

Demetrou wont come up smelling of roses either.

The again I don't have much time for teams that don't play by the rules

[Jim05]

One version of events that has been floated is that the AFL has outlined its penalties to Essendon.
Demetriou is pushing for loss of points, loss of draft picks and a fine but players all spared. Evans was reportedly in agreement but Hird and several other board members dont want to accept any punishment and want the club to take a hard line and take it to court.
Once again hopefully everything will be done and dusted within a fortnight

[Turbo]

Well dean Robinson is supposedly doing a 'tell all' interview Monday night. It is expected that he'll implicate Hird as the ring leader of the supplements program

[Jim05]

Well dean Robinson is supposedly doing a 'tell all' interview Monday night. It is expected that he'll implicate Hird as the ring leader of the supplements program

Yeah saw that.
There is no doubt that he will can the club for giving him the flick but id be surprised if he implicates himself in any doping saga. He would be facing a huge ban if he dobs himself in