2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:47 am

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gadj1976 wrote:I opened my membership renewal notice the other day and put it on my desk to read later.

I had a look tonight. Two players are illustrated. Murphy the captain being one and Cripps the other. The vice captain Gibbs no where to be seen.

Interesting to see Gibbs played every game this year but finished 4th in the B&F. Maybe internally he is not rated as high.


With a long term contact and a family now I think he is content and playing well within himself.
In a good team I think he'd take the step up and become the elite player he always should have been.
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:56 am

Adelaide's flag chances are here and now. Key men Jacobs ( 29 in '17 ), Walker ( 27 in '17), Talia ( 26 in '17), Sloane ( 27 in '17 ) are ripe to lead Adelaide deeper into the finals than this year over the next 2-3 years.

McGovern, while he looks like a very capable player got dropped ( "managed" ) late in the year, he stunk it up in the finals and really is the 5th forward behind Walker, Betts, Lynch and Jenkins. He's expendable with Menzel in the wings, Milera a half forward, and Cameron circling which of course some of them play different roles but Adelaide are ready now and have depth in this area.

If Adelaide are planning for a crack when McGovern is at his best, in 3-5 years then they'll have missed the boat.

If they could get away with McGovern and a future second rounder they would be neck deep in 2017-2019.
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:00 am

Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:03 am

Jim05 wrote:Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in


Lucky it wasn't Geelong or the Bulldogs. Hoops aren't very slimming.
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:04 am

Jim05 wrote:Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in


Didn't he just win the Hawks B&F?
Surely deserves 2 more years at the Hawks.
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby JK » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:07 am

Jim05 wrote:Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in


"Open to the offer" almost an understatement .. Sounded to me like he knows it makes sense for his future and his missus is all for it.
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:08 am

JK wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in


"Open to the offer" almost an understatement .. Sounded to me like he knows it makes sense for his future and his missus is all for it.


Well if the missus is all for it.......... done deal! ;)
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby MW » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:20 am

Jim05 wrote:Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in


What is his value for a trade though? two years left, you won't give much to get him even though BnF winner last year.
Not sure how this one will pan out...
Is he an unrestricted free agent? edit: Just read he is on a one year contract for next year.
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby stan » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:28 am

MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in


What is his value for a trade though? two years left, you won't give much to get him even though BnF winner last year.
Not sure how this one will pan out...
Is he an unrestricted free agent? edit: Just read he is on a one year contract for next year.

Christ this is not a long term strategy. FFS we are talking about Sam Mitchell and Petrie.

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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:31 am

stan wrote:
MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in


What is his value for a trade though? two years left, you won't give much to get him even though BnF winner last year.
Not sure how this one will pan out...
Is he an unrestricted free agent? edit: Just read he is on a one year contract for next year.

Christ this is not a long term strategy. FFS we are talking about Sam Mitchell and Petrie.

Im lost, its 8.30am and the its time for scotch now.


Richmond are looking for support mate. ;)
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby stan » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:33 am

Booney wrote:
stan wrote:
MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Sam Mitchell been offered 2 years and then a coaching role at WC. He was just on radio and is open to the offer as the Hawks will only give him 1 year. Maybe the Hawks will use him to get Tom Mitchell or O'Meara in


What is his value for a trade though? two years left, you won't give much to get him even though BnF winner last year.
Not sure how this one will pan out...
Is he an unrestricted free agent? edit: Just read he is on a one year contract for next year.

Christ this is not a long term strategy. FFS we are talking about Sam Mitchell and Petrie.

Im lost, its 8.30am and the its time for scotch now.


Richmond are looking for support mate. ;)

Seems we are doing our best to turn into then by grabing as many older players as possible. Whilst Mitchell is still plaing decent footy, Petrie is more cooked than Swanny on a Saturday night.
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:36 am

west coast also in touch with the swans for sam reid...
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby hawks21 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:21 am

Booney wrote:Adelaide's flag chances are here and now. Key men Jacobs ( 29 in '17 ), Walker ( 27 in '17), Talia ( 26 in '17), Sloane ( 27 in '17 ) are ripe to lead Adelaide deeper into the finals than this year over the next 2-3 years.

McGovern, while he looks like a very capable player got dropped ( "managed" ) late in the year, he stunk it up in the finals and really is the 5th forward behind Walker, Betts, Lynch and Jenkins. He's expendable with Menzel in the wings, Milera a half forward, and Cameron circling which of course some of them play different roles but Adelaide are ready now and have depth in this area.

If Adelaide are planning for a crack when McGovern is at his best, in 3-5 years then they'll have missed the boat.

If they could get away with McGovern and a future second rounder they would be neck deep in 2017-2019.

I understand where you are coming from but I (and most Crows supporters) saw some brilliance in McGoven last season, he played nearly every game coming off not much of a preseason. 191cm blokes who can mark, jump and run are hard to find, i think we can get the deal done with another player as Gov has a massive up side, the games we got into him last season was big for his development IMO! His manager came out last night and said no chance of going to Carlton. He is a WA boy who moved to SA, doubt he will be keen to move to VIC.

GWS to get involved in the trade, don't think Carlton can get Pickett/Marchbank/Stewart without Crows pick 13 (and hanging onto pick 4)
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby whufc » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:33 am

hawks21 wrote:
Booney wrote:Adelaide's flag chances are here and now. Key men Jacobs ( 29 in '17 ), Walker ( 27 in '17), Talia ( 26 in '17), Sloane ( 27 in '17 ) are ripe to lead Adelaide deeper into the finals than this year over the next 2-3 years.

McGovern, while he looks like a very capable player got dropped ( "managed" ) late in the year, he stunk it up in the finals and really is the 5th forward behind Walker, Betts, Lynch and Jenkins. He's expendable with Menzel in the wings, Milera a half forward, and Cameron circling which of course some of them play different roles but Adelaide are ready now and have depth in this area.

If Adelaide are planning for a crack when McGovern is at his best, in 3-5 years then they'll have missed the boat.

If they could get away with McGovern and a future second rounder they would be neck deep in 2017-2019.

I understand where you are coming from but I (and most Crows supporters) saw some brilliance in McGoven last season, he played nearly every game coming off not much of a preseason. 191cm blokes who can mark, jump and run are hard to find, i think we can get the deal done with another player as Gov has a massive up side, the games we got into him last season was big for his development IMO! His manager came out last night and said no chance of going to Carlton. He is a WA boy who moved to SA, doubt he will be keen to move to VIC.

GWS to get involved in the trade, don't think Carlton can get Pickett/Marchbank/Stewart without Crows pick 13 (and hanging onto pick 4)


I tend to think it will come down to where the Crows think they are in the premiership window, he is probably their 5th forward but has lots of upside.

If the crows believe they can win it next year with Gibbs anyone who isn't a guaranteed walk up could be available

IMHO the Crows have historically always grossly overestimated their squads ability
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:42 am

Sounds like very mature discussions by all 3 parties. I'd be stoked if we got the eagles 2nd round pick, more likely to be a 3rd. The salary cap room is the main thing
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:44 am

daysofourlives wrote:Sounds like very mature discussions by all 3 parties. I'd be stoked if we got the eagles 2nd round pick, more likely to be a 3rd. The salary cap room is the main thing


I don't think anyone on here has double standards as high as yours. :lol:
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:45 am

Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Sounds like very mature discussions by all 3 parties. I'd be stoked if we got the eagles 2nd round pick, more likely to be a 3rd. The salary cap room is the main thing


I don't think anyone on here has double standards as high as yours. :lol:

Haha! Spot on Boon :lol:
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:46 am

whufc wrote:
I tend to think it will come down to where the Crows think they are in the premiership window, he is probably their 5th forward but has lots of upside.

If the crows believe they can win it next year with Gibbs anyone who isn't a guaranteed walk up could be available

IMHO the Crows have historically always grossly overestimated their squads ability


Adelaide's window is as open as it is ever going to be and the addition of Gibbs makes them a scary prospect for the next couple of seasons.

I think their fringe players have enough talent to fill the gap left by whoever they have to offload to obtain Gibbs, I'd be keeping McGovern though and looking at one of there many running players that don't lay many tackles.
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:54 am

daysofourlives wrote:Sounds like very mature discussions by all 3 parties. I'd be stoked if we got the eagles 2nd round pick, more likely to be a 3rd. The salary cap room is the main thing

Maybe a swap of first rounders and they throw in a third rounder. Would then give you pick 12 to send to the Swans for Tom Mitchell
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Re: 2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:59 am

daysofourlives wrote:Sounds like very mature discussions by all 3 parties. I'd be stoked if we got the eagles 2nd round pick, more likely to be a 3rd. The salary cap room is the main thing

Being on the Veterans List not much of his wage would be in the salary cap


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