Adelaide v Brisbane.
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Adelaide v Brisbane.
by MightyEagles » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:29 am
Adelaide hasn't played well up at the Gabba of late, but that could change this week.
WOOOOO, Premiers 1993, 2006 and 2011!
Eagles - P 528 W 320 L 205 D 3 W% 60.89
WFC - P 575 W 160 L 411 D 4 W% 28.17
WTFC - P 1568 W 702 L 841 D 25 W% 45.56
Total - P 2671 W 1183 L 1457 D 32 W% 44.88
3 Flags - 1 Club
Eagles - P 528 W 320 L 205 D 3 W% 60.89
WFC - P 575 W 160 L 411 D 4 W% 28.17
WTFC - P 1568 W 702 L 841 D 25 W% 45.56
Total - P 2671 W 1183 L 1457 D 32 W% 44.88
3 Flags - 1 Club
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by blink » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:39 am
Apparently the Crows have not beaten Brisbane since Round 10 2002.
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by Blue Boy » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:02 am
At this stage - no changes for the Crows
Charman and Bradshaw out for the Lions !!!
Charman and Bradshaw out for the Lions !!!
It is what it is !!!
by Dissident » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:48 pm
Actually - I think from memory the Crows have one of the better records against the Bears up there in the last few years. We beat them two years in a row, as well as two pre-season games up there.
Not a lot to write home about - but it's better than most people during that period of time.
Not a lot to write home about - but it's better than most people during that period of time.
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by sydney-dog » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:24 pm
lengthy but i thought an outstanding article by gary lyon
Crows go by the book
07 June 2006 Herald Sun
Garry Lyon
AMERICAN football is famous for its play books. Thick volumes containing hundreds upon hundreds of set plays the coach may use during a game.
Injuries at your club
Round 10 photos
Every player in the team is expected to study that play book as if their lives depended on it.
They are expected to understand every aspect of every play. Who is going to receive the ball; who is blocking for who; who is running as a decoy to create space for the intended receiver; where the gap is going to open up for the running back to burst through the defensive line.
The level of understanding allows a quarterback to throw the ball to a designated place while the receiver is running away from him. The receiver stops, turns around and the ball arrives in his hands.
The best completed plays are a glorious lesson in teamwork, understanding, timing, role playing and selflessness. And preparation.
AFL clubs have only relatively recently had access to the kind of resources that will allow them to approach the sophisticated planning and preparation that goes into American football.
Given its stop-start nature, the American game lends itself much more to set plays, but there is mounting evidence that suggests we are catching on.
Adelaide, on the evidence I have seen this year, is the best drilled and prepared team in the competition.
The Crows seem to know what is expected of each other, at any given stage of a game, better than any side I have seen. The exception was the Richmond game where their failure to man up cost them the game.
Like all good teams, they learn from that and make the necessary adjustment. On Friday night, with two minutes to go and leading Essendon by more than 20 goals, they were as relentlessly man on man as they had been at the start of the game.
Watching them play, it is clear the Crows are all singing from the same hymn book. Not only that, they are in tune and harmonising beautifully.
With the ball in their back pocket, they automatically push to the middle of the ground, leaving the wings open and unattended. At the right time one player will lead into the vacant space, receive the ball, play on and deliver it inside 50. It is not ground-breaking stuff but they do it automatically, with precision and effect. It could be Play 26 in the Crows' play book.
An assistant coach who had just spent a week travelling the country to observe the 15 opposition sides in pre-season training said the Crows were far and away the most impressive and professional group.
He likened their training to a military operation. No down time between drills, it operated on the blowing of a whistle, and every minute was planned to perfection.
Players, coaching staff, doctors and physios moved seamlessly from one drill to another. Even the "ball boys" knew exactly what was expected, where the footballs needed to be and how many.
They play like that.
Mark Ricciuto controlled the forward line against the Bombers. As soon as the ball left their area, all the forwards would push up outside their forward 50. It allows the midfielders to push into defence, crowding Essendon's forwards. It also took Dustin Fletcher away from the comfort of the goalsquare.
As soon as the Crows won the ball back, they would hold their position, and then lead back towards goal, into space.
Ricciuto, Ken McGregor, Brett Burton and Trent Hentschel all kicked goals as a result of defender having to turn their back on the ball and chase them.
It puts defenders in an invidious position. If they take their eyes off their opponent to look at the ball, they run the risk of losing contact altogether.
With four forwards who attract the ball, it is testament to their understanding that they rarely contest the same ball. They will lead away from the ball to open up space for the next player.
Watching them celebrate each other's goals was to understand that individual tallies were irrelevant. McGregor seemed more excited with Hentschel's eight than with any of his four.
The defenders are also a part of this precision. With Andrew McLeod and Graham Johncock two of the best attacking backmen in the league, they will work to cover one another at all costs, allowing them the freedom to run and attack with confidence. They will leave their direct opponent to cover the most dangerous opposition.
With coaching staffs numbering 5-10, and access to the players six days a week, the best teams will continue to develop game plans and styles that are precise and specific to any given moment.
Players, through repetition of training drills supported by lecture-style presentations, will react automatically and uniformly.
Improvisation and instinct will remain some of footballer's strongest weapons, but it will help if the whole team improvises the same way. The Crows certainly seem to.
Crows go by the book
07 June 2006 Herald Sun
Garry Lyon
AMERICAN football is famous for its play books. Thick volumes containing hundreds upon hundreds of set plays the coach may use during a game.
Injuries at your club
Round 10 photos
Every player in the team is expected to study that play book as if their lives depended on it.
They are expected to understand every aspect of every play. Who is going to receive the ball; who is blocking for who; who is running as a decoy to create space for the intended receiver; where the gap is going to open up for the running back to burst through the defensive line.
The level of understanding allows a quarterback to throw the ball to a designated place while the receiver is running away from him. The receiver stops, turns around and the ball arrives in his hands.
The best completed plays are a glorious lesson in teamwork, understanding, timing, role playing and selflessness. And preparation.
AFL clubs have only relatively recently had access to the kind of resources that will allow them to approach the sophisticated planning and preparation that goes into American football.
Given its stop-start nature, the American game lends itself much more to set plays, but there is mounting evidence that suggests we are catching on.
Adelaide, on the evidence I have seen this year, is the best drilled and prepared team in the competition.
The Crows seem to know what is expected of each other, at any given stage of a game, better than any side I have seen. The exception was the Richmond game where their failure to man up cost them the game.
Like all good teams, they learn from that and make the necessary adjustment. On Friday night, with two minutes to go and leading Essendon by more than 20 goals, they were as relentlessly man on man as they had been at the start of the game.
Watching them play, it is clear the Crows are all singing from the same hymn book. Not only that, they are in tune and harmonising beautifully.
With the ball in their back pocket, they automatically push to the middle of the ground, leaving the wings open and unattended. At the right time one player will lead into the vacant space, receive the ball, play on and deliver it inside 50. It is not ground-breaking stuff but they do it automatically, with precision and effect. It could be Play 26 in the Crows' play book.
An assistant coach who had just spent a week travelling the country to observe the 15 opposition sides in pre-season training said the Crows were far and away the most impressive and professional group.
He likened their training to a military operation. No down time between drills, it operated on the blowing of a whistle, and every minute was planned to perfection.
Players, coaching staff, doctors and physios moved seamlessly from one drill to another. Even the "ball boys" knew exactly what was expected, where the footballs needed to be and how many.
They play like that.
Mark Ricciuto controlled the forward line against the Bombers. As soon as the ball left their area, all the forwards would push up outside their forward 50. It allows the midfielders to push into defence, crowding Essendon's forwards. It also took Dustin Fletcher away from the comfort of the goalsquare.
As soon as the Crows won the ball back, they would hold their position, and then lead back towards goal, into space.
Ricciuto, Ken McGregor, Brett Burton and Trent Hentschel all kicked goals as a result of defender having to turn their back on the ball and chase them.
It puts defenders in an invidious position. If they take their eyes off their opponent to look at the ball, they run the risk of losing contact altogether.
With four forwards who attract the ball, it is testament to their understanding that they rarely contest the same ball. They will lead away from the ball to open up space for the next player.
Watching them celebrate each other's goals was to understand that individual tallies were irrelevant. McGregor seemed more excited with Hentschel's eight than with any of his four.
The defenders are also a part of this precision. With Andrew McLeod and Graham Johncock two of the best attacking backmen in the league, they will work to cover one another at all costs, allowing them the freedom to run and attack with confidence. They will leave their direct opponent to cover the most dangerous opposition.
With coaching staffs numbering 5-10, and access to the players six days a week, the best teams will continue to develop game plans and styles that are precise and specific to any given moment.
Players, through repetition of training drills supported by lecture-style presentations, will react automatically and uniformly.
Improvisation and instinct will remain some of footballer's strongest weapons, but it will help if the whole team improvises the same way. The Crows certainly seem to.
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by Maddogmike » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:54 am
Some good points by Lyon, but on the whole he is a back-stabbing, cheating wank who doesnt deserve the time of day!
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by Blue Boy » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:19 am
Maddogmike wrote:Some good points by Lyon, but on the whole he is a back-stabbing, cheating wank who doesnt deserve the time of day!
Thats a spray - what did he do ???
It is what it is !!!
by ORDoubleBlues » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:29 am
Blue Boy wrote:At this stage - no changes for the Crows
Charman and Bradshaw out for the Lions !!!
Think that Charman is a huge out for the Lions. Underrated player who is extremely aggresive on the opponent.
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by JK » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:36 am
ORDoubleBlues wrote:Blue Boy wrote:At this stage - no changes for the Crows
Charman and Bradshaw out for the Lions !!!
Think that Charman is a huge out for the Lions. Underrated player who is extremely aggresive on the opponent.
Agreed ORD, I'm a Charman fan
by Blue Boy » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:20 am
ORDoubleBlues wrote:Blue Boy wrote:At this stage - no changes for the Crows
Charman and Bradshaw out for the Lions !!!
Think that Charman is a huge out for the Lions. Underrated player who is extremely aggresive on the opponent.
He has been playin real well. Some sayin other than Brown he has been one of the reasons that they have turned it around.
It is what it is !!!
by Rik E Boy » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:32 pm
Maddogmike wrote:Some good points by Lyon, but on the whole he is a back-stabbing, cheating wank who doesnt deserve the time of day!
Care to enlighten us here Mike? Did he spit in your beer or something? I would pay that he appears to be unbearably smug but that would be about it.
regards,
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by sydney-dog » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:40 pm
I think Lyon's article is one of the best that I have read from a Victorian scribe
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by mal » Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:15 am
REB
I reckon M/MIKES inference to LYON is that he
is unfaithful.....that has appeared in other posts
in other forums...not substantiated by me as i
have no knowledge in this matter.
REB our dream of a SK/GE grand final is now a fallacy.
I reckon M/MIKES inference to LYON is that he
is unfaithful.....that has appeared in other posts
in other forums...not substantiated by me as i
have no knowledge in this matter.
REB our dream of a SK/GE grand final is now a fallacy.
by MightyEagles » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:27 am
At the Gabba: Adelaide 4 Brisbane 8.
WOOOOO, Premiers 1993, 2006 and 2011!
Eagles - P 528 W 320 L 205 D 3 W% 60.89
WFC - P 575 W 160 L 411 D 4 W% 28.17
WTFC - P 1568 W 702 L 841 D 25 W% 45.56
Total - P 2671 W 1183 L 1457 D 32 W% 44.88
3 Flags - 1 Club
Eagles - P 528 W 320 L 205 D 3 W% 60.89
WFC - P 575 W 160 L 411 D 4 W% 28.17
WTFC - P 1568 W 702 L 841 D 25 W% 45.56
Total - P 2671 W 1183 L 1457 D 32 W% 44.88
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by Blue Boy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:50 pm
Good tough win by the boys !!!
A few injuries though Van Berlo - Broken Collar bone
Roo and Kenny will be pushin to pull up by Friday night
A few injuries though Van Berlo - Broken Collar bone
Roo and Kenny will be pushin to pull up by Friday night
It is what it is !!!
by GWW » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:43 pm
Blue Boy wrote:Good tough win by the boys !!!
A few injuries though Van Berlo - Broken Collar bone
Roo and Kenny will be pushin to pull up by Friday night
Van Berlo (i dont rate him that highly) will be easily replaced by Torney. McGregor and Roo will be big losses though if they dont play. Against a lower club such as Carlton or Essendon they probably could have afforded to rest them if they were only 90% fit, with the break coming up as well, but with the Saints they wont have that luxury.
by Interceptor » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:02 pm
I was there, great to be 2/2 up here in Qld.
Rained all day (first rain for ages here) and obviously continued into the match itself.
Players didn't adapt too well and the clanger count was high for both sides.
Very ordinary start by the Crows and you could tell Brisbane had a real shot, even without Brown.
Better second half effort got us home and should've put them away early in the last.
Sat in the upper tier of the stand, behind the goals at left of screen and had a great view, especially
of Roo's snap, which was a beauty.
The Gabba's an impressive modernised stadium with top facilities, including 2 replay screens.
What most people probably don't realise is that the ground is so lacking in space, that when they
redeveloped the ground, the new grandstands actually hang out over the road at the Stanley
and Vulture Street ends!
Rained all day (first rain for ages here) and obviously continued into the match itself.
Players didn't adapt too well and the clanger count was high for both sides.
Very ordinary start by the Crows and you could tell Brisbane had a real shot, even without Brown.
Better second half effort got us home and should've put them away early in the last.
Sat in the upper tier of the stand, behind the goals at left of screen and had a great view, especially
of Roo's snap, which was a beauty.
The Gabba's an impressive modernised stadium with top facilities, including 2 replay screens.
What most people probably don't realise is that the ground is so lacking in space, that when they
redeveloped the ground, the new grandstands actually hang out over the road at the Stanley
and Vulture Street ends!
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by duncs7 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:58 pm
GWW wrote:Blue Boy wrote:Good tough win by the boys !!!
A few injuries though Van Berlo - Broken Collar bone
Roo and Kenny will be pushin to pull up by Friday night
Van Berlo (i dont rate him that highly) quote]
One of the athlete recruits. I think he will be an ok player in the next few years but nothing special.
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