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Pain killing injections....?

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:00 am
by Booney
What is every one's thought's on these injections? I for one would like to see them banned.For mine,if you need an injection to get out on the ground it is a performance enhancing drug,as with out it your performance would be severely hindered.
It was interesting to see Jarrod Crouch in Sydney did not want his current injury listed as anything specific as he felt it may come back to bite him ala: Mathew Lloyd V The Bulldogs with his broken hand,Jonathon Brown and Chad Cornes in 2004 GF.
So,should they be allowed,or banned?

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:05 am
by Aerie
The other side to the argument is they are just there to allow a player to perform to what he usually could anyway. Not to enhance performance as such. As long as the player is not in danger I see no problem with having an injection to get you through a game - especially a final.

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:10 am
by Rik E Boy
If you didn't have pain killers, clubs would need about a hundred players on the list. You've got small lists, a fast game and some hard surfaces (enter Mr Mal Doom). If you want to see the best footballers, then painkillers are a fact of life. Get rid of them and careers would be shortened as some (not Chad Cornes though the girls blouse LOL) players would play on anyway.
The painkillers get the blokes on the field when they've got 'nigglys' perhaps at the cost of a decent life after football but these blokes would know in this day and age that there is a short shelf life in this line of work and that they should be setting themselves up now. You can't get a kick if you aren't on the field and players have been delisted for not being able to get on the park so you can understand a player's position vis a vis pain killers.
Painkillers should also be mandatory for all Geelong supporters.
regards,
REB

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:16 am
by Booney
I bet the AFL with it trying to display a squeky clean image will have these banned before too long.
The other question this raises,who will be the first cunning legal eagle to help a player fight in court a case relating to long term injury caused by the club's neglect to their "duty of care",by letting this player play with injury and then having on going medical issue's as a result of playing with pain killing injections?
$$$$$$$$$$

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:21 am
by JK
I certainly don't consider painkillers to be "Performance Enhancing" as such, just as Panadol and the like aren't, and at first I just thought it shoudl be a case of player choice ... However, upon further reflection, these injections have the capacity to add to permanent impairment for players, and possibly produce a financial drain on the league (with the advent of the recent "X-Men")!
I think if they are to remain as is (or left to player choice) then the league has to find a way of forcing the clubs to take on the responsibility for whatever adverse affect they might have down the track (playing years and beyond).

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:33 am
by Rik E Boy
Booney wrote:I bet the AFL with it trying to display a squeky clean image will have these banned before too long.
The other question this raises,who will be the first cunning legal eagle to help a player fight in court a case relating to long term injury caused by the club's neglect to their "duty of care",by letting this player play with injury and then having on going medical issue's as a result of playing with pain killing injections?
$$$$$$$$$$
I'll take that bet, provided you insert a time frame. Unlike Coowrong however, I WILL pay up if I lose ha ha.
regards,
REB

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:39 am
by Booney
You are on! A beer and a burger at the Thebby the next time your down....(bet and a time frame)
(BTW,Mooney gets 1 FFS!,is that because of his good record?

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The longest running play in football continues...

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:17 pm
by Rik E Boy
Scene AFL Match review panel...
{Mooney and Advocate enters}
CAM: Gidday boys. How've yer been?
MRP {as one}: Moons!! Gidday big fella! Good to see you again!
CAM: Always good to catch up with old mates. Mate these elbow injuries are a real problem, any chance of some time off boys?
BOZO 1: Now come on Cam, be serious. People already think we are a joke!
CAM: Come on, play the game. Our season is shot, Bomber gives me the tom tits - how about three weeks? Look at my record FFS!!
BOZO 2: We have taken into account your appalling record and we have decided that-
ADVOCATE {Interupting}: This panel's continual persecution of my misunderstood and misrepresented client has reached farcical preportions. Mr Mooney has been tried and convicted by both the media and the umpiring fraternity..
CAM {hissing in ADVOCATE's ear}: STFU you wanker!! Can't you see I want to go fishing this weekend!!
ADVOCATE: No further comment gentlemen!
BOZO 3: In light of all the presented testimooney it is the MRP's decision that you get the usual.
CAM: That's a round of beers and one week right?
MRP {firmly, in unison}: THAT'S RIGHT!!
CAM: Oh well, I'll just have to cop it sweet! Your shout ADVOCATE!!
regards,
REB

Posted:
Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:21 pm
by Booney
Cam and Dermie can go to Tahiti with their frequent visitor points....
LOL REB.

Posted:
Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:50 pm
by ORDoubleBlues
Booney wrote:I bet the AFL with it trying to display a squeky clean image will have these banned before too long.
The other question this raises,who will be the first cunning legal eagle to help a player fight in court a case relating to long term injury caused by the club's neglect to their "duty of care",by letting this player play with injury and then having on going medical issue's as a result of playing with pain killing injections?
$$$$$$$$$$
Looks like Aaron Keating might have answered your question Boon. I would be interested to see whether the facts are actually as he says they are. Can't see Brian Sando holding the positions he has over the years if he couldn't pick a broken pelvis.
On the topic of painkillers, it is the players choice but they say that now, that doesn't mean they won't try and take legal action against the AFL or whatever other body they may see fit.
Think that the plights of Garry Hocking, Steven Febey, Bowen Lockwood, etc are proof that this is a far bigger concern than the public realises.
As we know, pain is the body's way of saying "stop, I can't do this", so to take a painkilling injection is accelerating damage- long term damage at that- significantly.
This is obviously something that is occuring at SANFL level as well.
A shame that we as human beings can't live in an older persons body for a week when we are say, 21 years of age.
Did anyone read the article in the Advertiser a few weeks back about Bowen Lockwood?

Posted:
Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:15 am
by Booney
I sure did ORDB,was a sad sight/story indeed,the young bloke had a lot of ability.Just as with the Roger James story,spend's one day a week in pain.Something must,and will be done about these injections.Keating as you said may have just started the ball rolling.

Posted:
Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:56 pm
by Punk Rooster
On Aaron Keating, I got told this story from a very reliable source....
Keating upon breaking his wrist, says to the club Doctor "how will it heal, will I ever be able to play footy again?"
"Of course you will!" says the doctor.
"In fact, there will be no side affects at all!"
AK- "really?"
Dr "you will be able to run, jump & take overhead marks"
AK- "wow, that's awesome, because I couldn't before!"....
nyuck nyuck nyuck!

Posted:
Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:15 pm
by mal
Should be in BEST JOKES the keating joke LOL loved it.