by Dogwatcher » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:12 am
by JK » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:35 am
by bennymacca » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:36 am
by Magellan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:50 am
bennymacca wrote: Seemed to be one of those blokes that wasnt quite sure why he was so good and didnt quite know how to communicate his talents.
by Dogwatcher » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:25 pm
bennymacca wrote:He coached Freeling for a couple of years when i was playing. Even though I was only a B grade hack you still felt he had time for you.
Wasnt a great coach to be honest - wanted you to do everything at half pace and get the skills right which is almost the complete opposite of how most coaches tell you to do it. Seemed to be one of those blokes that wasnt quite sure why he was so good and didnt quite know how to communicate his talents.
The bit about not remembering names etc is interesting - everyone was "big fella" haha. Maybe thats part of it.
by Rik E Boy » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:56 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:bennymacca wrote:He coached Freeling for a couple of years when i was playing. Even though I was only a B grade hack you still felt he had time for you.
Wasnt a great coach to be honest - wanted you to do everything at half pace and get the skills right which is almost the complete opposite of how most coaches tell you to do it. Seemed to be one of those blokes that wasnt quite sure why he was so good and didnt quite know how to communicate his talents.
The bit about not remembering names etc is interesting - everyone was "big fella" haha. Maybe thats part of it.
I have heard he wasn't a solid coach.
His success was built on hard work, so it's unusual he didn't know how to communicate that. I think that's down to his modesty.
Again, the 'half pace' thing is unusual too, as you watch him play and he never did anything half paced, he was a bundle of energy.
by tigerpie » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:47 pm
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Excellent episode.
He was an absolute gun. You can throw a blanket over the top 5 SA footballers from 84-94 and then another blanket over the next 12-13. That SA side was one of the best football teams I have ever seen and the way they played together spiratically was unreal. Any representative team that smashes Victoria and WA away is a phenomenal team
by Wedgie » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:43 pm
by mighty hounds » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:41 am
Dogwatcher wrote:bennymacca wrote:He coached Freeling for a couple of years when i was playing. Even though I was only a B grade hack you still felt he had time for you.
Wasnt a great coach to be honest - wanted you to do everything at half pace and get the skills right which is almost the complete opposite of how most coaches tell you to do it. Seemed to be one of those blokes that wasnt quite sure why he was so good and didnt quite know how to communicate his talents.
The bit about not remembering names etc is interesting - everyone was "big fella" haha. Maybe thats part of it.
I have heard he wasn't a solid coach.
His success was built on hard work, so it's unusual he didn't know how to communicate that. I think that's down to his modesty.
Again, the 'half pace' thing is unusual too, as you watch him play and he never did anything half paced, he was a bundle of energy.
by Magellan » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:06 am
Wedgie wrote:Barrie Robran is the greatest example of someone who was a champion but struggled as a coach.
Ken Farmer on the other hand was brilliant.
by bennymacca » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:37 am
mighty hounds wrote:
I've heard this as well from someone who played under him at Freeling
by Lightning McQueen » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:38 am
Magellan wrote:Wedgie wrote:Barrie Robran is the greatest example of someone who was a champion but struggled as a coach.
Ken Farmer on the other hand was brilliant.
Correct, although I'm not sure how much of Robran's coaching performance was based on a lack of playing personnel at the time? How do those who played under him rate him as a coach?
by Magellan » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:43 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:Magellan wrote:Wedgie wrote:Barrie Robran is the greatest example of someone who was a champion but struggled as a coach.
Ken Farmer on the other hand was brilliant.
Correct, although I'm not sure how much of Robran's coaching performance was based on a lack of playing personnel at the time? How do those who played under him rate him as a coach?
Probably with score cards.
by bennymacca » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:44 am
Magellan wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Magellan wrote:Wedgie wrote:Barrie Robran is the greatest example of someone who was a champion but struggled as a coach.
Ken Farmer on the other hand was brilliant.
Correct, although I'm not sure how much of Robran's coaching performance was based on a lack of playing personnel at the time? How do those who played under him rate him as a coach?
Probably with score cards.
I was going to ask 'how does Robran measure himself against other coaches?', but the answer is obviously 'his height.'
by MatteeG » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:58 am
Rik E Boy wrote:A lot of champions don't make great coaches. Some struggle impart what came naturally to those that are less gifted. From Tim Watson, James Hird, Michael Voss to cricket's Greg Chappell. Maybe bucks too. Buckley had that insane desire to improve and was very focused so he might have struggled with the 'bad boy' element that wanted to play footy at the highest level and have a bit of fun too.
regards,
REB
helicopterking wrote:Flaggies will choke. Always have.
by Lightning McQueen » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:08 am
bennymacca wrote:Looks like LM is in a punny mood today haha
by Booney » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:04 pm
Wedgie wrote:Barrie Robran is the greatest example of someone who was a champion but struggled as a coach.
Ken Farmer on the other hand was brilliant.
by Rik E Boy » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:32 pm
Booney wrote:Wedgie wrote:Barrie Robran is the greatest example of someone who was a champion but struggled as a coach.
Ken Farmer on the other hand was brilliant.
SA's two greats, Robran and Ebert both struggled in charge.
by Booney » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:59 pm
Rik E Boy wrote:Booney wrote:Wedgie wrote:Barrie Robran is the greatest example of someone who was a champion but struggled as a coach.
Ken Farmer on the other hand was brilliant.
SA's two greats, Robran and Ebert both struggled in charge.
Russell nearly got a flag. Maybe if you didn't try to run around knocking out Aishy all day you might have won that one. Sucked in a bit that day.
regards,
REB
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