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Re: Open Mike

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:22 am

Booney wrote:Interesting how many comments made about "We shouldn't judge". We're human, it's built into us to judge, you're kidding yourself if you think you don't judge other people.

We are all judgemental, some express their judgements, some don't.
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Re: Open Mike

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:31 am

bennymacca wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Just an observation:

I've noticed it's seemingly only men, at least on social media and similar channels, who have an issue with her playing. I'm on Twitter and follow many female football fans and reporters and haven't seen many, if any at all, offer an opinion on this issue. The few I have seen are cheerleaders for women's footy and would rarely go against a narrative of inclusivity. However, most of the male commentary, often in a terrible fashion, have been quite critical.


It’s a decent point. The people that have to be ok with her playing are teammates and opponents


Women say they are ok with it in an open forum but if push came to shove and they had to vote on it would they have the same opinion then?
I suspect not.
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Re: Open Mike

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:32 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:Interesting how many comments made about "We shouldn't judge". We're human, it's built into us to judge, you're kidding yourself if you think you don't judge other people.

We are all judgemental on here.


EFA ;)
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Q. » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:42 am

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Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?
So, you want height and weight restrictions for women's football?
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:43 am

Q. wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?
So, you want height and weight restrictions for women's football?


Careful LM, that question is loaded and ready to fire.
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Re: Open Mike

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:04 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?


I highly doubt there is a flood of transgender women wanting to play footy (and it wouldn't surprise me if there already was other transgender women playing that don't have the profile because they aren't built like a brick shithouse)
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:12 am

Q. wrote:So, you want height and weight restrictions for women's football?

Na, just narrowing it down to playing against women who were born female will suffice.
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:13 am

Booney wrote:
Careful LM, that question is loaded and ready to fire.

All good mate, I'm married and know this drill well.
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Re: Open Mike

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:13 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Q. wrote:So, you want height and weight restrictions for women's football?

Na, just narrowing it down to playing against women who were born female will suffice.


Can of worms anyone? :lol:
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Re: Open Mike

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:14 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
Careful LM, that question is loaded and ready to fire.

All good mate, I'm married and know this drill well.


Yep shut your mouth, take a step back and walk away quietly......................... :lol:
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:20 am

amber_fluid wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
Careful LM, that question is loaded and ready to fire.

All good mate, I'm married and know this drill well.


Yep shut your mouth, take a step back and walk away quietly......................... :lol:


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Re: Open Mike

Postby mighty hounds » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:25 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?


so if you had a son that was skinny short wingman and he was KO'd by a ruckman whats the differece? would you prevent your son form playing? That same risk is in the male game and is a poor example imo
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:31 am

mighty hounds wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?


so if you had a son that was skinny short wingman and he was KO'd by a ruckman whats the differece? would you prevent your son form playing? That same risk is in the male game and is a poor example imo

The debate is a transgender playing in a women's comp.
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Re: Open Mike

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:32 am

mighty hounds wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?


so if you had a son that was skinny short wingman and he was KO'd by a ruckman whats the differece? would you prevent your son form playing? That same risk is in the male game and is a poor example imo


Does the ruckman have a dick or a pussy?
Just asking...........................
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Re: Open Mike

Postby stan » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:09 pm

Havent you guys worked it out.

Dick vs Dick = ok
Pussy vs Pussy = ok
Dick vs Pussy = Not ok or currently up for debate.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Open Mike

Postby MW » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:10 pm

stan wrote:Havent you guys worked it out.

Dick vs Dick = ok
Pussy vs Pussy = ok
Dick vs Pussy = Not ok or currently up for debate.


My how society has changed... NTTIAWWT
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:59 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?


I highly doubt there is a flood of transgender women wanting to play footy (and it wouldn't surprise me if there already was other transgender women playing that don't have the profile because they aren't built like a brick shithouse)


Exactly, this is quite isolated and don't think any floodgates will open with TS's everywhere playing AFLW
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:06 pm

Dutchy wrote:Exactly, this is quite isolated and don't think any floodgates will open with TS's everywhere playing AFLW

Everywhere? Where is the line in the sand drawn? What will constitute allowable vs disallowed?

It's cut and dry as it is and should be left that way.
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Re: Open Mike

Postby tigerpie » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:46 pm

Q. wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?
So, you want height and weight restrictions for women's football?

The fact is she has an unfair advantage of having 18 or so years of testosterone developing a males physique.
The other girls dont.
Its similar to an athlete taking steroids competing against one that doesn't in my opinion.
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Re: Open Mike

Postby Q. » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:49 pm

tigerpie wrote:
Q. wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I watched it and still had many questions running through my head after it, one thing I got out of it though was that she isn't doing this to "buck the system" or to be deliberately controversial, she seems pretty level headed and firm with her beliefs, just cause they don't marry up with many of ours doesn't mean we should automatically judge.

I'm basing my opinion with a bit of bias as my 15 year old daughter goes alright at footy and could possibly playing in the AFLW in a few years. Hannah is a solid well built human who would knock my girl into next week, if the floodgates open for Hannah who knows what lies around the corner?
So, you want height and weight restrictions for women's football?

The fact is she has an unfair advantage of having 18 or so years of testosterone developing a males physique.
The other girls dont.
Its similar to an athlete taking steroids competing against one that doesn't in my opinion.
I've discussed this previously and so did she on the show. What do you think happens to a body when you switch testosterone levels for oestrogen levels?
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